Nandita K Baig August 3, 2005
#129 Posted by robinhood on August 5, 2005 7:18:23 am
nandita,
i just followed the whole trail of this thread and sincerely think that you should let your children be secular and somebody pokes them then they should say that they are atheist.
this might work for them.
i just followed the whole trail of this thread and sincerely think that you should let your children be secular and somebody pokes them then they should say that they are atheist.
this might work for them.
#130 Posted by rsribhar on August 5, 2005 7:54:43 am
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#131 Posted by Faruk on August 5, 2005 7:55:56 am
Just read this article and all the post. It’s an interesting article, I can relate to your son’s dilemma. My mother is French Christian and my father an Indian Muslim. It worked best for me to celebrate my diverse heritage. I think my kids will go through the same thing. My wife is Italian.
Regards,
Faruk
Regards,
Faruk
#132 Posted by Saj1981 on August 5, 2005 7:57:28 am
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#133 Posted by rsribhar on August 5, 2005 8:19:13 am
#131 by Faruk on August 5, 2005 7:55am PT
{`` My mother is French Christian and my father an Indian Muslim. It worked best for me to celebrate my diverse heritage. I think my kids will go through the same thing. My wife is Italian. ``}
Faruk,
I am really impressed. You have an ever more diverse background than I.
Good for you. Ipiaceri.
Salim
{`` My mother is French Christian and my father an Indian Muslim. It worked best for me to celebrate my diverse heritage. I think my kids will go through the same thing. My wife is Italian. ``}
Faruk,
I am really impressed. You have an ever more diverse background than I.
Good for you. Ipiaceri.
Salim
#134 Posted by delhiwala on August 5, 2005 8:40:18 am
Re: # 132
Whatever is written on the NikahNama dictates wheather this is halal or not.
Yes, it is mentioned in the Shariat that children of the tree of Abrahim can be inter-wed. But nowhere it says that others cannot be.
Most likely Nandita`s NiqahNama has some clause in it, whereby she is agreeing to be a partner of Muslim and children would be Muslim. Otherwise
If Nandita did not have her marriage nama then as per Shariat her marriage is annulled(AS PER SHARIAT), Common Law does not give a hoot about it.
One of cousin married an Irani Man against her parents wishes, he is a great guy and he even converted to a fringe sect of Sikhs and participates in their Sufi like meditation. This marriage was without a Nikahnama and this couple is raising their kids as all American-Secular-atheist.
(talking to myself)
I am not even a Muslim, but I think I know more about Islam than Pakis do.
Whatever is written on the NikahNama dictates wheather this is halal or not.
Yes, it is mentioned in the Shariat that children of the tree of Abrahim can be inter-wed. But nowhere it says that others cannot be.
Most likely Nandita`s NiqahNama has some clause in it, whereby she is agreeing to be a partner of Muslim and children would be Muslim. Otherwise
If Nandita did not have her marriage nama then as per Shariat her marriage is annulled(AS PER SHARIAT), Common Law does not give a hoot about it.
One of cousin married an Irani Man against her parents wishes, he is a great guy and he even converted to a fringe sect of Sikhs and participates in their Sufi like meditation. This marriage was without a Nikahnama and this couple is raising their kids as all American-Secular-atheist.
(talking to myself)
I am not even a Muslim, but I think I know more about Islam than Pakis do.
#135 Posted by rsribhar on August 5, 2005 8:44:38 am
#134, Dillidost {``I am not even a Muslim, but I think I know more about Islam than Pakis do.``}
You know, I kind of believe that. Not only do you know more about Islam than most Pakis, you even behave more like a Muslim than most Pakis. :)
Salim
You know, I kind of believe that. Not only do you know more about Islam than most Pakis, you even behave more like a Muslim than most Pakis. :)
Salim
#136 Posted by delhiwala on August 5, 2005 8:47:17 am
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#137 Posted by robinhood on August 5, 2005 8:54:11 am
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#138 Posted by rsribhar on August 5, 2005 8:56:56 am
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#139 Posted by rsribhar on August 5, 2005 9:03:56 am
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#140 Posted by Faruk on August 5, 2005 9:07:48 am
Re: delhiwala # 132
In the Indian context a marriage involving individuals of different faiths is a civil marriage, so the nikhanama has no bearing in such a marriage.
Regards,
Faruk
In the Indian context a marriage involving individuals of different faiths is a civil marriage, so the nikhanama has no bearing in such a marriage.
Regards,
Faruk
#141 Posted by dost_mittar on August 5, 2005 9:16:27 am
Saj1981:
One of the early sultans in India went to the Caliph and succeeded in getting his Hindu subjects ``upgraded`` to the dhimmi status, namely they were allowed the same status as the people of the book; consequently, any Indian maulvi will gladly do the nikah of a muslim man and hindu woman. But if it is the reverse case, no maulvi would agree to a nikh-nama and they would have to go the civil marriage route; indeed many hindu women marrying muslim men also insist upon going the civil marriage route.
As an interesting aside, one of my close relatives in a hindu-muslim marriage have named their son, Yoshi, because they did not want him to be identified as either hindu or muslim.
One of the early sultans in India went to the Caliph and succeeded in getting his Hindu subjects ``upgraded`` to the dhimmi status, namely they were allowed the same status as the people of the book; consequently, any Indian maulvi will gladly do the nikah of a muslim man and hindu woman. But if it is the reverse case, no maulvi would agree to a nikh-nama and they would have to go the civil marriage route; indeed many hindu women marrying muslim men also insist upon going the civil marriage route.
As an interesting aside, one of my close relatives in a hindu-muslim marriage have named their son, Yoshi, because they did not want him to be identified as either hindu or muslim.
#142 Posted by robinhood on August 5, 2005 9:19:29 am
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#143 Posted by delhiwala on August 5, 2005 9:28:05 am
Re: # 141
Uncle Jee Sat Sri Akaal,
I did not know about this Khalifa stuff. Kerra Khalifa si?
Must be Razia sultana`s time(pre Mughal).
I can think of many such examples, Salman Khan`s mother is a Hindu.
Nargis was half-half and so would be Sanjay Dutt.
A famous sikh writer Kartar Singh Duggal of Delhi`s wife was a victim of partition and he let her follow her religion.
Most likely, the product of such marriages end up being atheist, unless one of the two parents were devout in their own faith.
Uncle Jee Sat Sri Akaal,
I did not know about this Khalifa stuff. Kerra Khalifa si?
Must be Razia sultana`s time(pre Mughal).
I can think of many such examples, Salman Khan`s mother is a Hindu.
Nargis was half-half and so would be Sanjay Dutt.
A famous sikh writer Kartar Singh Duggal of Delhi`s wife was a victim of partition and he let her follow her religion.
Most likely, the product of such marriages end up being atheist, unless one of the two parents were devout in their own faith.
#144 Posted by bongdongs on August 5, 2005 9:29:43 am
#141
Kabir, was the obvious choice in my family :-)
Kabir, was the obvious choice in my family :-)
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