Will Kashmiri Pandits Ever Return to their Abode…?

#34, Anil {``Such initiative must remain non-political in nature, as there are Modis also present in India.``}

Anil, my friend, you may have the better approach, using successful leaders in business and non-governmental organizations. Regardless, it is the message that India is in favor or moderate Islam and peaceful Moose Limbs that needs to come out clearly. There is much animosity against UBL, Al-Kayda, and the Paki style of terrorism - at least in Turkey, it is very apparent to me.
Have a great week.

#33, Dillidost, {``We need some kind of EU type model for DESIland or else let us nuke each other and hope that there are no shelters and after 1000 years when DESIland is again habitable, people probably would be more tolerant, though it cannot be guaranteed.``}

A very friendly and warm Jhuppee to you too, my good friend. You are right, we need to bring these lost brothers together in some sort of an economic union that allows them to see their similarities, which far outnumber a few dogmatic differences, which they themselves have even in their own separate countries and sects.

Yaar, I have decided to stay on FP and not waste my time on UP, where all my messages and threads get deleted anyway.

Have a nice week.

Gujjubania careful u might have been the result of that one incher

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#35 by kaalchakra

Heheheh…hiding behind morality and good behavior….heheheheh…. not your cup of tea hindu….hehehehheheh…don’t extend yourself…heheheheh….you are an idiot and all on this site know that…..heheheheheh… stupid…..heheheheheh

how many Pundit died in Kashmir?…hehehhehe…another hoax by Hindus……hehehehehe

re: delhiwala # 25

Yaar, as you well know, in life, contradictory things are often true simultaneously. Dalits are truly privileged but they are also truly underprivileged.

Unless they are unemployed and looking for jobs in the government sector, few of our Brahmins will exchange places with dalits at the SAME economic level.

So we have ways to go. Real dalits (not Yoginder Sikand type ``dalits`) are determinedly inching ahead, though.

``Dalit will drop whole basket full of your fav. food in there``

Dear ``Dalit``

That is not a very nice thought.

You do not appear to respect dalits.

A real dalit can be as brilliant and logical as anyone else. Our modern Manu was a Dalit. Please don`t defame a whole group through your nickname and behavior.

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Yoginder Sikand represents an extremely interesting aspect of Indian life that needs to be discussed at an opportune time.

Re: # 32

Salim:

Other than the re-integration of Pakistan, you most certainly have articulated a vision for Inidans. There are enough successful Muslim Indians in different walks of life (from IT, to pharmaceuticals, to bureaucrats, to academicians) to form a concorde and take initiative with like minded people and reach out in other countries that you have mentioned. Such initiative must remain non-political in nature, as there are Modis also present in India.

Anil

Re: # 32
Salim,
Big Juphee, yaar, what happened to Hiro and others.

Anyways, as usual you have the right choice of words oozing from your mouth, errr..... keyboard.

I never heard your last point from anybody else before i.e. India taking initiatives in Moderate Islam.
Unfortunately, the way it works in India is that major Political parties have some kind of under the table agreement that you give us your votes and we will let you do whatever and let you mind your own business. Whenever the Political Parties do not get what they want, the other oponent creates a mischief leading to communal violence.

Gujrat Muslims have been Congress supporters and that is why they were punished by BJP. Because BJP is primarily made up of business class who is trying to flex their muscles these days.

Anyways, Indian Muslims are probably more hardcore than your Majlis Party.

We need some kind of EU type model for DESIland or else let us nuke each other and hope that there are no shelters and after 1000 years when DESIland is again habitable, people probably would be more tolerant, though it cannot be guaranteed.

thanks.

#56, Ranjit {``Jinnah has single handedly ruined muslims in the subcontinent and reduced them to a non-entity. His policy ended up dividing muslims into three irrelevant, disjoint groups and pushed them to the fringe corners of the subcontinent. Hindus ended up getting the lion share of the real-estate.``}

Ranjit bhai,
It is not a matter of Muslims or Hindus getting the upper hand. Just like there is no such thing as monolithic Hinduism, believe me there is no such thing as united Islam, the Ummah, or Muslim rule. You ask ``Can you imagine if India had remained united in 1947?`` Yes, many of us can. As one can easily determine after watching Mangal Pandey, that is exactly what the British feared and what they prevented from happening.

Jinnah, while himself an honest, intelligent, and able man, was blinded by his own vanity, his jealousy of Gandhiji, and the influence of powerful economic interests of the Moose Limb business community of Bombay. They wanted to create a ``homeland`` for Moose Limbs, where they would hold sway economically without competition from the baniyas. ``Islam khatray meN hai`` is a convenient slogan to rally the Moose Limb sheep into any course, even a suicidal one.

You are correct in pointing out the right course for India. The breakup of Pakistan in 1971 was a brilliant move on the part of Indira Gandhi and her government. This permanently shattered the concept of ``Pakistan`` and set the stage for further dismemberment. The sensible course for India now would be to deny Pakistan the ``Moose Limb`` card. India, as the second largest Moose Limb country in the world, should genuinely take the lead in promoting moderate and progressive Islam. There are similar minded countries such as Turkey, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Indonesia, Central Asian ``Stans,`` and Malaysia that will join India in countering the jihadi alliance of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the Tally Ban. Once India`s position as the logical choice of a model for Moose Limb progress is established, many benefits will ensue. Kashmiris will proudly proclaim their Indian citizenship, Indian Moose Limbs will count their blessings, moderate Paki Moose Limbs will see the beacon as a welcome alternative to their own wretched society, and the Moose Limb world will stop paying attention to Pakis` religious blackmail.

The reintegration of Pakiland into an undivided India is what will undo the evils of this partition. I know it is a difficult thing to accept for both, but it is the sensible path.

Peace

#30 by ranjit

Hehehehe…look at this holly Polly Hindu talking…..hehehehe…

Noone kicked Pundit out …heheheh….they left themselves…..heheheheh…with all their money and sold property at the right price…..heheheheh…consider this….hindu…heheheheh
How many Sikhs left when hindu killed them in Delhi….heheheheh
How many Muslims left when hindu killed them in Gujarat, Mumbai, or at many other places….hehehehehe
How many Dalit left their homes ….heheheh
ALL OVER INDIA
Every hour two Dalits are assaulted
Every day three Dalit women are raped
Every day two Dalits are murdered and two Dalit houses are burned in India

Pundit left after about ten of them were killed over a three years period….hehehehe…

Hehehehe… holly Polly hindu prove me wrong …there were no communal riots in Kashmir…hehehee…handful of pundit, way less than Sikhs, Muslims and Dalits, died….hehehehe….. Pundit left….heheheheh…

They SOLD their homes and PROPERTY....hehehehe....
what will they come back to…..hehehehehehe….

Mr. Raina,

We hindus will never let muslims and paksitanis win in Kashmir. It will never happen. They may have driven you out, but they will never be able to get out of India. As a proud hindu, I promise you that we will not let you down. If necessary, we will use nuclear weapons to keep it with us.

What you should do is to lobby Indian government to relax Article 356 so that hindus can migrate their en masse and change demographics there. If the pandits go back, you will remain a minority and can be thrown out again. But if millions of hindus from UP, Bihar, Rajasthan etc accompany you and take the place over, then your future is secure. That is what we need to do in the Kashmir valley.

Re: # 25

``Thank God Army does not have reservation or else..... ``

isn`t there an ex-serviceman quota?

hamidm#26

Since you are in such generous mood, maybe you can extend this invitation also to pindi-nay sikh bhapas who are still pining for their old city. [I actually remember hearing an old woman saying on a full-moon night: `ay chan pindi-nay chan varga nain`] :-)

Re: # 26 Afghani dalits... Good one!

Re: # 24

........... what is this post doing on this board - i thought this was about pandits in kashmir ........... not that i care about pandits or dalits or anyone else from the wrong side of the border ......... but since we are on the subject, what the heck is a pandit and what were they doing in kashmir in the first place ? ....... how did they get there and when did they leave and why can`t they go back ? ....... i thought only kashmiris lived in kashmir - one big happy family in that secular heaven known as hindustan ........

............ maybe the pandits should move to islamabad which has been run over by half a million afghani dalits - we will make room somehow ...