J N Raina August 13, 2005
#73 Posted by googlymoogly on August 20, 2005 1:53:17 am
Dalit, everything you have said on this post is TRUE. People are getting angry and shouting BECAUSE IT IS ALL TRUE. We grew up thinking we have a ``great civilization`` and a ``tolerant`` culture - all LIES we were taught...Someone should write a ``lies my teacher told me`` book about India... During the Independence struggle, caste-Hindus spun many lies for the Indian middle-class, which they still believe, even if they (we) think we are very liberal. One of the horrible stories spun was this ``Hinduism is tolerant`` thing - nothing could be more of a lie...How brutally Buddhists and jains were treated in the past when they threatened caste-Hindu dominance. How brutally Muslims and Christians are treated because they, being world religions headquartered where there are no caste-Hindus, threaten caste-Hindu dominance also... Many caste-Hindus have good hearts (to the extent they can) but they grew up thinking Gandhi was a great man and a ``good`` Hindu as opposed to a ``bad`` and casteist Hindu. Gandhi made it so that in return for living peacefully in India, Muslims/Christians and Dalits would be pitted against each other. Upper-caste Muslims and upper-caste Hindus collaborated to keep the masses under their control.....
Gandhi had a cannibalistic attitude towards Dalits - he wanted to swallow them as Hindus who would always be slaves... He hated conversion, went overboard with the ``God`` thing to make sure that all god-centered religions remained within the ugly grasp of caste-Hindus through this ``advaita`` and ``bhakti`` thing.....Horrible devices created to trap people into thinking they are ``good`` and ``tolerant`` when they are being INTOLERANT of other religions, of the right of other religions to BE WHAT THEY ARE, rather than being a branch of Hinduism... The sickos even try to say Buddhism is Hinduism when there is NO GOD in Buddhism - Buddhism threatenes these people so much because its hard to swallow that and say ``its ours``.....
Why is the monthly death toll among dalits unreported EN-MASSE by the media, as ONE figure that shows the deadly, genocidal apartheid Dalits face??? No - the Pandits are the only thing in people`s eyes always - WHY DOES THE SO-CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA COLLUDE IN THIS??
Dalit is the ONLY person on here I see talking any sense, giving any fresh information....
Everyone else just rants and gives lectures, ignoring the stench emanating from their own casteist mouths...
If you are a caste-Hindu and consider yourself a good human being - ABANDON YOUR HINDU IDENTITY. Become a Buddhist, develop a sense of ethics and compassion, most importantly, develop some clarity in your head about what is important in life, in society.....Caste-Hindus who rant at Dalits and lecture them about ``peace`` and ``love`` ARE HYPOCRITES. they have blinded themselves to human suffering - they don`t respond to it any more because they ONLY see their ``own`` people as humans - they have DEHUMANIZED Dalits and are now doing the same to Muslims....
Gandhi had a cannibalistic attitude towards Dalits - he wanted to swallow them as Hindus who would always be slaves... He hated conversion, went overboard with the ``God`` thing to make sure that all god-centered religions remained within the ugly grasp of caste-Hindus through this ``advaita`` and ``bhakti`` thing.....Horrible devices created to trap people into thinking they are ``good`` and ``tolerant`` when they are being INTOLERANT of other religions, of the right of other religions to BE WHAT THEY ARE, rather than being a branch of Hinduism... The sickos even try to say Buddhism is Hinduism when there is NO GOD in Buddhism - Buddhism threatenes these people so much because its hard to swallow that and say ``its ours``.....
Why is the monthly death toll among dalits unreported EN-MASSE by the media, as ONE figure that shows the deadly, genocidal apartheid Dalits face??? No - the Pandits are the only thing in people`s eyes always - WHY DOES THE SO-CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA COLLUDE IN THIS??
Dalit is the ONLY person on here I see talking any sense, giving any fresh information....
Everyone else just rants and gives lectures, ignoring the stench emanating from their own casteist mouths...
If you are a caste-Hindu and consider yourself a good human being - ABANDON YOUR HINDU IDENTITY. Become a Buddhist, develop a sense of ethics and compassion, most importantly, develop some clarity in your head about what is important in life, in society.....Caste-Hindus who rant at Dalits and lecture them about ``peace`` and ``love`` ARE HYPOCRITES. they have blinded themselves to human suffering - they don`t respond to it any more because they ONLY see their ``own`` people as humans - they have DEHUMANIZED Dalits and are now doing the same to Muslims....
#69 Posted by premwalla on August 17, 2005 1:09:56 pm
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#70 Posted by khamkhwa. on August 17, 2005 4:47:41 pm
Re: # 69
salim ``sherlock`` chauhan ...
i am arjun_m too....muahahahahaha....;)
ps: send me an email and i will explain every thing to you...you know my addy...;)
salim ``sherlock`` chauhan ...
i am arjun_m too....muahahahahaha....;)
ps: send me an email and i will explain every thing to you...you know my addy...;)
#72 Posted by shankar on August 18, 2005 7:19:21 pm
Re: # 70
KHAMKHWA,
{{i am arjun_m too....muahahahahaha....;)}}
Goddamn kumquat from Queens!
Goddamned Bihari dukkar!!
I KNEW you would reveal yourself!!!
Is your hand STILL your only..er..ONLY ...girlfriend?!
muahahahaha....i recognise that maniacal cackle
KHAMKHWA,
{{i am arjun_m too....muahahahahaha....;)}}
Goddamn kumquat from Queens!
Goddamned Bihari dukkar!!
I KNEW you would reveal yourself!!!
Is your hand STILL your only..er..ONLY ...girlfriend?!
muahahahaha....i recognise that maniacal cackle
#71 Posted by khamkhwa. on August 17, 2005 6:21:27 pm
Re: # 70
salim `sherlock`chauhan...
henceforth, i will not use my arjun nick...that`s a promise...;)
salim `sherlock`chauhan...
henceforth, i will not use my arjun nick...that`s a promise...;)
#68 Posted by premwalla on August 17, 2005 12:49:50 pm
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#67 Posted by Dalit on August 17, 2005 12:31:01 pm
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#66 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 17, 2005 12:16:16 pm
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#65 Posted by Dalit on August 17, 2005 11:28:36 am
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#64 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 17, 2005 9:56:47 am
#61 and #62, Thank you, Thank you.
For clearing that up. For clearing that up. :)
For clearing that up. For clearing that up. :)
#63 Posted by arjun_m on August 17, 2005 5:10:14 am
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#62 Posted by amansandhu on August 16, 2005 6:04:34 pm
Salim , I meant married her daughter to a dalit boy.
#61 Posted by amansandhu on August 16, 2005 6:04:00 pm
Salim , I meant married her daughter to a dalit boy.
#59 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on August 16, 2005 9:18:48 am
amansandhu #53 {and recently last year my jat sikh neighbour married her son to a dalit sikh boy [maybe bec is in canada] times are changing ``}
Aman,
And I left Chowk UP to escape this kind of environment! Hey, Ram. Kiya hoga is sansar ka?
Aman,
And I left Chowk UP to escape this kind of environment! Hey, Ram. Kiya hoga is sansar ka?
#58 Posted by pmishra2 on August 16, 2005 6:02:45 am
#55 nakli dalit
he, he, heh, you are an idiot and a fool, heh, heh, heh
All you are doing is using the struggles of oppressed people to generate noise and confusion. Maybe you have been able to grab some money or get attention elsewhere in this way. But it is no substitute for actual thought and analysis. This is why you published a story about dalits of Jammu and claimed they lived in Kashmir valley ! Talk about ignorance!
Indian media is full of stories of dalits who have made great achievements and of changes in indian society. It is completely relevant that dalits are intermarrying with the broader population in cities. At the same time there are many poor and oppressed people in india. They include caste hindus, muslims, tribals and, yes, dalits. All deserve to be taken forward especially through education.
But why bother with real work and change? It is so much easier to cut-and-paste some nonsense from manusmriti or dalitstan.org.
he, he, heh, you are an idiot and a fool, heh, heh, heh
All you are doing is using the struggles of oppressed people to generate noise and confusion. Maybe you have been able to grab some money or get attention elsewhere in this way. But it is no substitute for actual thought and analysis. This is why you published a story about dalits of Jammu and claimed they lived in Kashmir valley ! Talk about ignorance!
Indian media is full of stories of dalits who have made great achievements and of changes in indian society. It is completely relevant that dalits are intermarrying with the broader population in cities. At the same time there are many poor and oppressed people in india. They include caste hindus, muslims, tribals and, yes, dalits. All deserve to be taken forward especially through education.
But why bother with real work and change? It is so much easier to cut-and-paste some nonsense from manusmriti or dalitstan.org.
#57 Posted by harish_hyd on August 16, 2005 2:59:13 am
#55 by Dalit
hehehehehe....Maybe shankar can help you. He`s a shrink you know.
hehehehehe....Maybe shankar can help you. He`s a shrink you know.
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