Jerry’s Pakistan

http://www.satribune.com/archives/200508/P1_farz.htm

in case anyone did not post this..from our own ferzana..

Re: # 407 So polite of you, sir! Now YOU shut up.

Masanamuthu....I`ll give you the best defence for Gandhi. 11 Oscars. US Box office success. Jinnah ... ???

Southasian. Get a hint. Shut up.

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Your ``quotes`` from gandhi is interesting. I searched for the defense of Gandhi and found a quote attributed to nelson mandela, who said, Gandhi remarked about coupling the Indians who were arrested for civil disobedience with the unruly criminal natives arrested for criminal offences. and you should not treat that as being ``racist``.

His defence of the caste system and terming the ``untouchables`` as ``condescending`` ``Harijans`` are offensive too. He is not a 100% great person, and he had his limitations. He prevented medicines being administered to his wife and relied on his nature treatment. You can call him a man of eccentricities, but I think he had the welfare of people (everyone included) in his mind. On the other hand, it is Jinnah who never went to a prison, fighting for anything, who called for ``direct action``, who wanted either the ``partition`` or the ``destruction`` who comes out as a rank opportunist.

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Re: # 402 Ref 395

Re: # 398

PS I have certain personal commitments that will keep me out of the discussion for the next few days or even weeks...

Please continue to post ... and I will respond as time permits...

SouthAsian..exactly which assersion do you reject in entirety , huh , sir ?

What`s happening here? 399 does not belong to me.

My reply to 397
I reject your assertion in its entirety, sir.

Well...the Cuckolded Fool is definitely a fool. And a cuckolded one at that....

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Ladies and gentlemen...

All points of views aside, I can honestly say that there is no one on Chowk in my opinion who mouths off without reading than Romair... Indians I can accept... they are codified to hate Jinnah... but Pakistanis like Romair have very sinister motives to lie shamelessly.

He is the self proclaimed expert on everything... now he has broached the issue of Jinnah`s personal life... without knowing anything about it...

Ladies and gentlemen... M J Akbar, no fan of Jinnah and a staunch Nehruvian, writes:

``The marriage frayed, but it produced a daughter, Dina, who loved her father but was more reticent about the nation he created. Dina stayed back in India, and must have been the only Indian to wave a Pakistani flag from her balcony on 14 August 1947``


I personally know someone who knows Dina Wadia personally... I have also read and watched any and all interviews that Dina Wadia has offered to the public... Romair`s claim that everyone in his family hated Jinnah is probably another stupid and idiotic attempt to equate that ignorant Pathan Imran Khan with the Quaid-e-Azam. Yes everyone who comes across Imran Khan sooner or later hates him... However it was not so with Jinnah... Ruttie`s deep emotions and feelings for Jinnah are well known... so is his daughter and his sister... Dina was absolutely devoted to her father... there are correspondence betweeen the two which can be found in several books including Akbar S Ahmad`s book...

Compared to Gandhi`s personal relationship with his son- who he hated because he converted to Islam and his children`s abhorrence of their father`s weird behavior... Gandhi`s treatment of his wife which was far from perfect... etc .... or Nehru`s (he broke his daughter`s marriage to Feroz Gandhi) Jinnah`s family relationships, even when strained, was a model relationship. Ofcourse Romair is a typical military man from Pakistan`s military industrial complex trying to defame the man in order to make Ayub Khan and Zia look good..

Anyway... the picture below is around the time Dina got married to Neville...




and here is another picture...




Not the man who looks like he is at odds with his family... in my personal collection I have his pictures with his mother in law as well....

The problem is simple... Indians said Jinnah was aloof... Romair accepted it without question... I don`t think he even bothered to go to Jinnah`s museum at Mazar-e-Quaid or at the Flagstaff house or at Wazir Mansion in Karachi... Like a typical military man he wants to create this distant aloof image of Jinnah (The Zia sponsored movie on Jinnah which thankfully never saw the light of day did the same thing)

The final conclusion one must draw is that these military wallahs are the greatest threat to Pakistan...

So you say you are not a fool ?

Re: # 395 Sorry, sir I don`t subscribe to that description.

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