Behind the Iron Purdah

#180, Shukriya, Janaab ntsyed sahib,
Jahaliyyat ke muqaable meN hum-dimaagh hona ek zarorri baat he. :) Khush Aamdeed.
Salim

shanker da # 181:

me flatter? taubah taubah!

as for golden rules..there is only one...he who has the gold....

later in life danda replaces gold as is evident in most third world countries

and yes, parents are for ever at the short end of the stick when the children are between the ages of 15-30+

once they get their own kids...well they need reliable baby sitters

sorry for the dirgression folks...

#184, {``It is ``bated breath`` and not BAITED breath... ``}

Soulat, thank you for your much-needed corrective action. :)

In this particular case, maybe ``bad breath`` is both short and apropos. :)

#164 by Saminasha

“WAITING with baited breath...”

Please refrain from coping phrases from several liberal discussion boards and then you don’t copy them correctly too.

It is “bated breath” and not BAITED breath…

Thanks.

Ref: many comments.
Article is fine and has good points. But writing of hypothetical situation is not good and is extreme. I can understand to make points.
But most comments are not in good taste , they are in bad taste. YLH is great but some times gets crazy when these kafirs floating all around press some j and g and s ( secular) buttons. Similarly lots of Indians are having field day to have written by ms. Shah and critical of sociopolitical situation in country and related comments and specially the miserable animal like conditions met by 60% women. Its not religious thing but Hindians have made it. Its backward inward looking idealogical country trying to grasp some new guidelines under capable leadeship of President - moderation and enlightenment. . In such times Ms. Shah should have been sympathetic to pakistani nation as nation is getting out of slumber and getting in moderation which can lead to demise Jihad and killing slowly. But such criticism demoralise people and people try to flee as they feel condition are worst when they are worse or badder. Then Dubai cracks on good people and good people are punished for no fault of theirs and writer can not help the plight when they do not allow even leader of opposition is not allowed. Some times I feel writers do not care they just want write bad and get famous hoping to get interviewed by Nytimes or BBC. Its pathetic to become famous such at cost of pakistan good name and reputation. As general said first think of pakistan, subse pahela pakistan, now even opposed to militart take over should know pakistan is president is pakistan. Its ok to criticise president in company of Ummah but when most kaffirs are here one should moderate writing to tone down negative aspects and have no destructive criticism. Dawn , Jang are failures as they are full of bad news top to bottom no good news. It is specially bad when general has courageously accepted to address jew people in newyork as he is moving in enemies caves. He may have great danger from people opposed to his dialogue with mother religion of islam and christy people jew people. There may be great danger and all nation should help him but more croticism specially jihadi extremists are going crazy. Lots of advantages with establishment of relationship with isarael. Arabs will not take us for granted and will respect us. It is possible then he can be peace maker for palestaian and isarael and president Bush has support to get moderate muslim laeder get involved just like hasan Mubarak of egypt.

The comments by women are really negative and teasing to men and criticising them this can great distress and he may take on his wife by beating her etc. But these commentators provoke men by provokative comments.
Best way is to limit provokative comment writer men and women to only 2 comments and then put censor cut. This women and men commenter has made gutter palce here.
I wish everybdy good luck , Bye i am tired by -ve coments by people.

NyetSyed,

You`ve been checkmated....now lets see if your fan club has the backbone to tell you so.

Now, lets proceed with the inadequacies of this post. Having missed Ms. Shah`s point and having that pointed out to you further, you are so beset with anxiety, you must save face by sexualizing the whole exchange. In other words, because I called you on your lack of knowledge of what labor unions are and how they operate, you felt the need to drag us down to your level of male pathology...which is to try to embarrass us thru a kind of sexual harrassment. Nyetsyed SAHIB...can you begin to admit how ridiculous this notion is?

Is Steven Hawkings your ``dominatrix``?
Is Albert Einstein your ``dominatrix``?

Then why should a woman with a brain bigger than yours be considered your ``dominatrix``?

Your intellectual better, maybe, but lets leave this repressed mcp vision of the world out of this discussion on labor.

Before you actually play your ``WELL WHAT ABOUT THE US????`` tit for prat game, just answer the questions. Nothing before then.

Re: # 106

temporal,

{{...where is that unmitigated rascal shanker?}}

i`m here!...i`m here!!...
....& flattery wont get you anywhere...


{{all cultural transference in kids takes place between the incubation and age three...}}

Aw...it isnt as simple as that...yes.... our human mind (brain ) LEARNS the most in our first 3 years ....& a lot of our CORE emotions are formed in those formative years....
BUTT...its the ``nature vs nurture `` fight...

our immediate society has a great pull on you...ESP when you are a teenager...the American society has a very very powerful, though insiduous, way of ``mixing you``

so if you want your daughter to be a a good muslim girl...or a good sati savitri...take her back to des.. before she becomes a teenager...

why do you think ``teenage years`` are so challenging...for parents..?...my 19 (going on 50) teenage daughter has given me a few grey hairs...when she challenges my core ``desi`` beliefs...I have the scars to prove it...

When a human being becomes a ``teenager`` his/her role models change...their parents arent the ``gods`` they thought they were....& their teenage friends (who are in constant contact with them ...over landlines...over cell phones...over aol/msn messengers)...complain that THEIR parents have pretty antiquated ``universal values`` too...

until...you get to put your foot down & say ...``hey KID!...whether this is INDIA or AMRIKA...there is ONE SIMPLE UNIVERSAL RULE....no matter where you go in this world``....

MY HOUSE>>>MY RULES!!!!!!

Like that incredible guru of parenthood, Bill Cosby, tells his son Theo...``I bought you into this world ....& I can take you OUT!!!``:))

...and...and... did you know what that feminazi kid said; when I first threw that COMMANDMENT at her?!

``wait till mommy comes home...I`ll tell her how much of a patronising ...male ...chauvinistic oink..you are!!!``

Its real pathetic to see a grown brahmin shrink cry real tears of frustration!:))))

My child psychiatry teacher once told me ``parenthood is the ONLY amateur profession left in this world!...``

Re: # 165

Tasleemat Salim Saheb! I try to utilize whatever blessings Allah has bestowed on me to its maximum potential.

Judging from Saminasha`s 166, I`m sure I`ll be a fan of yours ;-)~~

M`asSalaam
:-)~~

Re: # 164

ufffffff Allah... itna to koi blonde bhi nahi tapti agar uskay samnay koi blonde-joke suna de...tauba tauba tauba....hehehe

Reading your last line suddenly gave me the thought this is as close to a dominatrix as I`m getting in this world. I wonder though, when did this kind learn to use the ``P`` word as in `please`? Anyway, if Allah allows me into heavens, I may ask for a 6` dominatrix just to see what the whole fuss was about.

Anyhow...you`ve asked way too many irrelevant questions for a busy man to answer in a short time. I`ll tell you what, why don`t you do a practical hands-on investigative research and become a ``worker`` you describe in your questions and undergo the predicaments you mention and you`ll see the leadership, operations, strikes, negotiations and everything else. I`m sure your anti-Islamic rants will not be factored in. I`ll lie and put in a good word for you. That way you`ll have a solid undisputable data to bring down the entire Islam single-handedly. One couldn`t make you a better offer to achieve your objective than that. The only question is, are you up for it?

Earn your kudos baby girl...whining will only get you a lousy sugar-lollipop to rot your teeth and appetite ;-)~~

The big barn....
Speaking of ``Phillipina/Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Sri Lankan/African woman domestic worker(s)``, how come we find the same nationalities/races in these professions in the US of A in addition to the poor Latinas from south of the border? Why are there so few whites (if any) in this profession in the US? A lot of them tell similar stories as their sisters in ``so called Islamic countries``. Is US one of these countries too?

Ah the data, you must ask...sorry I couldn`t help predict your silliness...but then I`ll let you predict my response to let you get even on this one.

I`m sure you`re able to see the other side of the barn just as easily. Hint: Google, Clusty, plus it`s just as big as this side, unless of course choose to remain logically and rationally impaired.

ciao :-)~~

Re: # 163

Thank you for the warm welcome dear sister...may Allah keep you and your loved ones happy and prosperous in this world and hereafter! Although I`m here only briefly. In two days time I go back out on the road to earn a halal rizq Allah has allocated for me.

Some wise people have said one recognizes another`s traits [and forms ;-)~~] by virtue of his/her own. After reading the few responses to my post, I couldn`t agree more.

M`asSalaam,
:-)~~

Bina....women scare me...first they want to decide whether or not I`m going to marry them...then they want to insist that the dowry that should be mine is their propty...it was mine the day their parents starting giving that land, jewelry, apartment, money, clothing, car to them! Those gold bangles are MINE!!!....Anyway, then they want the right to divorce me? When does it end? You mean to say I can spend hours on the internet bothering other women, and that gives my wife the right to critcise me? What are they going to want next? The right to conjual bliss? I`M happy, isnt thats whats really important? They want to decide if THEY want to have children? WHAT?? Because now THEY want an education? Then THEY want a job? Then THEY say, its okay to have girlchildren and they throw out all the condolence cards we get after she has a girl baby? Then THEY say for the boys to help in the house? ME as well? Then THEY say they will let our daughter choose who she will marry?ISNT the baass happy with her own life with me as her nauker?

When does it end?

Re: # 102

trust me guys...i`ve encountered more prejudice in my 24 yrs in india...than my 24 yrs in amrika!...my kid is a true blue amerikan...er..with universal values...i havent caught her taking a leak on my lawn...yet...

#173, {``Right...it would be poetic justice when 20 yrs from now...there will be 3 eligible bachelors for 1 ``eligible jawan lady...I cant wait for the day when WOMEN start demanding dowry.. ``}

That or have a war with Pakistan over its abundant ``natural`` resources. :) But, before that I think that economics will play an important role in the ``export`` of such resources - Meera is just the beginning. :)

Salim

Re: # 100

temporal-ji,

{{however there is no harm in transferring some universal values...like not pissing on the neighbour`s lawn...}}

...and not adding some Canadian malt to the virgin margaritas...surreptitiously...shhh...when abba an` ammi are not in sight...!

Re: # 67

salim,

{{I have to be fair in my criticism. What you are suggesting to Pakis is already happening in high-tech India - thanks to the female infanticide as a result of sonograms and selective abortions. I hope that silly practice is stopped quickly.}}

Right...it would be poetic justice when 20 yrs from now...there will be 3 eligible bachelors for 1 ``eligible jawan lady...I cant wait for the day when WOMEN start demanding dowry..

Bina,
I, like most men, support women`s right to education, healthcare, employment, driving, voting, running for office and serving. What many of us men, and I believe most women, have a problem with is the feminazis overshadowing the women`s rights movements and hijacking the agenda. Then, sadly, we are left with shrieking, bra burnin, tampon wielding, obscenity spewing, misandry advocating, anarchist, lesbianism promoting, atheistic, castration threatening, amazons bent on having men reduced to effeminate rubber stamps. Thank God, most women do not share this vision of these mutants of femininity. As we strive to help the cause of genuine women, let us not be deterred by the noise created by these squeaky wheels. Sometimes the squeaky wheel get the oil, but at other times it gets replaced. :)
Salim