Behind the Iron Purdah

and speaking of George Carlin....where is my twig and munjun?...I`d like to agree with you Sha Sahiba...but this new generation scares me.....they like kaaley comics like ``chis rock`` and ``dave chappelle``...why do they want to listen to someone who`s name means ``hat`` in french?....they keep talking about ``keeping it real``...``keeping it real``?...how about ``keeping it fresh?`` I asked my donut boy when I got my last cup of chai cappucino....how about ``keeping it in the family?``....how about keeping it john updike...who I`d read....but he`s been canonized-the kiss of literary death-and he`s still alive!....

Saminasha, I second and third AphraBehen`s opinion....but as a man, I find that the last thought I had coincide with the release of George Carlin`s list of no-no words...and then it went downhill from there....the pc police has made my life miserable....those goody two shoes-or is this a perjorative term?...those well meaning ambidexterous abled anthropods have made my kicking the eighteen year old taco jockey an offense in Miss Manner`s books!...Miss Manners! George, can you hear me?....Why do I have to worry about things like why my mother`s dhoban doesnt have any teeth?....I know why she doesnt have teeth, but what can I do about it?....Its all Hugh Chavez`s fault, I say! ....Does he even know who George Carlin is?

Re: # 25

{{Women are actually becoming fighter pilots.}}

Ok...that does it...India is TOTALLY screwed..

Re: # 9

My dear Bihari-bhayya...tere dhoti mein do vade-vade papaya!!,

Whats this!!!?...you are dissin` my drinkin` an` doping buddy hamid for taking advice from mois?...somewhere in this maze of messages???

Lemme tell you...if there is ANYTHING worse than being a prepuceless/dickless descendant of Lord Ram of Lahore....is you hydrocoel-head descendants of Lord Krishna of Bihar!!!!

Here is a land blessed with RICH minerals...& what are you DUFFER Bihari showing for yourselves?!.... so backward-assed...that even Pathans look at you an` say...``Allah-damnit! these Biharis are one backward-assed buggers!....``
saala,.... sara hindustan ka naam satyanash kar dete hain!...

Do India a HUGE favor, hahn!?

Why dont YOU... & Lallooo...& his corpulent wife, Rabri (gee...she looks like she imbibed one too many rabris).... & all the motely billion crew of Biharis......BREAK AWAY...from India....&...&... JOIN the Land of the Pure!?...

TRUST me....it just might be a win-win situation for everybody...!!!

Oooops...they dont want you:(
Join Bangladesh!...oops..they dont want you either!
Join Nepal!....are you kidding...those Gorkhas arent as dumb as they look!...

I got it!!...maybe you guys ought to merge with frikkin Burma...& step out of the train altogether....

Saminasha,

How utterly brilliant you are! We missed you for all those weeks when there was no one to make any of the kinds of points you were making! Who actually writes about labor unions among interactors? Why nobody but you, Saminasha!

I wish you`d just collect a whole bunch of nics and make it look like there was a community of intelligent and progessive interactors! Because it seems that whenever the lowest common denominator posts, there are five other trogs congratulating him for actually using a keyboard! And if he is able to make a joke without referring to his own inadequacies? Its like the heaven the Ummah has envisioned!

I love you Saminasha, and all your comments on chowk and I am not afraid to say it! You are just so wickedly sharp tongued and have a laser like focus that I cant possibly support because I want everyone to be my friend!

But keep up the good work! I love you!

-a

what would a namard be without his jackasses a congratulating?

we`ll never know, as mediocrity reigns at chowk!

#162, Welcome back, Mr. Ntsyed. From your brilliant and fitting response, I can see that I am already a fan of yours - regardless of your politics. I admire your wit and humor. Please continue.
Salim

Goood Goddess, this is TOO rich....

NyetSyed writes:

``I support the ``Kacchi maassi with seventeen children and no teeth`` and ``Illiterate dhobans`` who keep my home and clothes clean and cook delicious meals for me and my family. The Union is called ``Islam``, which (unlike the author`s and your distate for them) allows me to respect them for who they are and what they can do...not where they`ve been educated and what they look like.``

So..now...let me get this straight...you were taking Ms. Shah to task for supposedly looking down on impoverished domestic working women-specious and belabored attempt at comedy-because they were not as toothy and contraception practicing as she would have liked. Her point, which you missed, even though it was as big as the side of a barn, was of course, not elitist twaddle about the prestige of having a toothed and reproductive right vested service workers-BUT- and nysyed, listen carefully, because I will ENUNCIATE-

having women workers who are not EQUALLY if NOT MORE marginalized by the systemic institution of gender discrimination as practiced in too many so called Islamic countries.

Get it?

In addition, I am extremely amused, nay, FASCINATED, by your claim of the Islamic UNION as you know it. Pray tell, or, pray AND tell, how does this union actually operate?
Who are the organizers, members? Who is the leadership? Which members of this union strike or negotiate FAIRER, SAFER and EQUITABLE labor practices for themselves and their coworkers? WITH WHOM are these negotiations made? WHAT is the pay rate for a Phillipina/Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Sri Lankan/African woman domestic worker in Saudi Arabia? Or is she disqualified from this ``union`` for being nonmuslim/south asian/black? What compensation is given for rape/passport theft/lack of due process?

Please reply ASAP-all my friends and coworkers in our unions are WAITING with baited breath...

ntsyed saheb:

welcome back! i see your time away has only improved your top form ;).

m

Re: # 159

No ma`m...I`m back to watch you continue making a fool of yourself with name-calling when you don`t have anything intelligent to say :-)~~

I support the ``Kacchi maassi with seventeen children and no teeth`` and ``Illiterate dhobans`` who keep my home and clothes clean and cook delicious meals for me and my family. The Union is called ``Islam``, which (unlike the author`s and your distate for them) allows me to respect them for who they are and what they can do...not where they`ve been educated and what they look like.

As for data, if your prophet Bush hasn`t banned the Google and Clusty under the PATRIOT ACT for the Moslems - liberal or practicing, pull up those engines on your browser and search away. I`m sure you`re liberal and educated enough to do that by yourself without bothering your husband or other men like me.

May Allah Guide us all!
:-)~~

Re: # 157

Kal,

I`m not worked up over India seeking access to Afghanistan, if that`s what you think. She can have all the access she wants. Unfortunately for you, in your nationalistic zeal you missed the context of my post viz the irony. Please read again if you wish to.

ciao,
:-)~~

#157 by kaalchakra on August 28, 2005 6:36am PT


Why do some people get so worked up over India wanting access to Afghanistan?


Ask the afghans how they feel about the pakis....that`ll make it clear...

Nyetsyed,

Back to remind us of your consummate stupidity....which union for Pakistani domestic workers do you support politically and economically?

Also, please provide legitimate data to prove your notions re: violence against women during and after the Taliban regime.

Hamid Sahib,

No thank you to the one year course. As the author pointed out, there are too many women who will gladly sell the female gender out for their tiny bit of private terrorism...as for men, we have our very own examples on chowk to illustrate how misogyny is entrenched in too many of the male gender. My husband and I were watching The Whale Rider with a close relative last night-have you seen it?

ntsyed

Why do some people get so worked up over India wanting access to Afghanistan?

``...but the meals at the Aurat Hostel will be prepared by a Kacchi maassi with seventeen children and no teeth...``

``Your laundry at the Ambassador will be cleaned in the hotel dry-cleaners, and at the Aurat Hostel, it will be taken to the Lyari River to be beaten on rocks by illiterate women.``

Hmmm... I couldn`t imagine a self-proclaimed liberal woman to discriminate against her own kind, just because they`re poor and uneducated...tch tch tch. What a let down for our oppressed mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters in ``liberal`` Pakistan, if there`s ever to be one.

I don`t know if she has come across the reports by Western journalists on the issue of women and purdah in Afghanistan. Almost all concur that during the Taliban years women were flogged for showing skin. Other than that they were safe and no one could even dare to harm them in any way. Today, with almost four years of democratic forces in power, if they do manage to get out with or without the burqa they`re kidnapped, raped, and murdered with impunity. Kabul may be a li`l better in terms of security...only li`l. And now India wants access to Afghanistan to bolster Afghan security while their own rebels are making and selling porn for funds...it`s like a cat volunteering to guard the milk....hehehe

The author needs to take a cold shower and get off of diet pills to eat some healthy food. Lord knows she`s rumbling a runaway train off the tracks.

:-)~~