Judicial Murder or Plain Manslaughter

I guess ...the only thing to say here is, ``sa la vie``.
I live with the truth!
The guy hanged was only responsible to hold the information of the movement of the, ``Chief Executive then now President and What-Next!``
Well... the system is like this
NO LOOSE ENDS. Can`t leave it to others...
Hang em HIGH
I may be next

re #29 …… yes, but only with mrs sattar’s consent … although I must ask, why single me out? And it is not like women don’t already know all this …… unless I misunderstood you …

….. did I? … no I didn’t … may be I did … I did? … hmmm … what is it that we are talking about …?

Re: # 28

Sattar:

Thanks :)

Your input is very valuable.

Do I have your permission to spread the word around?


Hamidm:

Speechless? Koi baat naheen!

Re #16,

Oh please, allow me ... they are brown in color, speak urdu often (esp. when cussing after jumma prayers), and tend to somewhat hairy. Come to think of it, this description fits me perfectly … but I do clean my ears regularly … does that count?

... and as for being sexually frustrated, show me one man who isn’t. And tahmed doesn’t count … he has other, bigger problems …

why all of sudden so much doubt about Islam Siddiqui`s innocence? If you can trust musharraf with Sarbjit singh why not with Islam Siddiqui? In both cases there is no evidence other than Govt`s claims.

Re: # 25 hamidm

When miscarriage of justice happens and due process is denied no one is ever sure that it was Islam siddiqui who did something wrong. This selective application of ``justice`` breads contempt and results in more Islam siddiquis not less- this is a concept that has proven itself right at a mega scale in Iraq.

Re: # 24

urstruly,

......... i know this probably sounds bad and, trust me, it is very difficult for me to say this but, even though it is against everything i believe in, it is hard to feel any compassion for murderous jihadis like islam siddiqui ........... if you don`t eliminate people like him, sooner or later, they will kill innocent people somewhere .......... of course it would have been better if the authorities had followed the law ............ tough, but that is the way the roti crumbles .......

Re: # 23 saleemi

and let me add to that, that since accused was denied the due process of law, therefore, his execution is akin to political assassination using the state apparatus, which is a crime against humanity under the rulings of International Criminal Court.

Romair, I am afraid you are mixing up two cases. G R Khan is right.
Islam Siddiqui was hanged because of first attempt where they blew up the bridge and in that case there was NO casualty at all.
What you mentioned is also true but it is about the second attempt involving at least two suicide bombers.
And I am also extremely confused that how can you hang someone that summarily when there is not even an injure let alone dead.
G R Khan has done a service to the nation by highlighting the issue.
Regards

Ref: #22 by Romair on September 7, 2005 10:14am PT

**** I thought 15 civilians were killed in this case. Isn`t this the one in Rawalpindi. I actually saw the sight afterwards, next to the petrol pump. Everything was blown up........

``Gen Musharraf narrowly escaped when two suicide car bombers rammed his motorcade on Christmas Day, 2003, in Rawalpindi. Fifteen people were killed.`` (www.dawn.com) ***

``Interestingly, the accused was reportedly hanged in the case where there was not a single minor human casualty and the whole spoof was winded up in less than 18 months – must be a record in Pakistan’s chequered judicial history.``

I thought 15 civilians were killed in this case. Isn`t this the one in Rawalpindi. I actually saw the sight afterwards, next to the petrol pump. Everything was blown up........

``Gen Musharraf narrowly escaped when two suicide car bombers rammed his motorcade on Christmas Day, 2003, in Rawalpindi. Fifteen people were killed.`` (www.dawn.com)

Re: # 18

Please do not link in large images. You are welcome to simply provide a link.

Ref # 19

No one should summarily overlook the opinion presented in the post# 19, as the opinion of of flamming bogot or a blathering idiot but that actually and factually represents the very mindset of the ruling elite whom we have inherited from our former white masters. Unfortunately, a great majority of them are highly educated; even foreign educated and have a first hand expreince of the rule of law in Western countries. The basic philosophy of this ghulamzadas and haramzadas is that as long as the stern hand of (in)justice is applied to ``them`` it is perfectly fine with them. Now one can replace the word ``them`` with a convenient adjective as it is dictated by their masters. No wonder they have turned Pakistan into an absolutely completely banana Republic which even shames the Sikha Shahi rule of last century. Had Ranjit sigh were alive today, he would have drowned himself into river Ravi with shame, seeing how the progeny of satan, the curse of colonialism has excelled all the limitations of incompetence and ignorance and jihalat.

..........personally, i am opposed to capital punishment but if it is used selectively to reduce the number of flaming jihadis i am willing to tolerate it as pest control ........ people who are willing to blow themselves up are vermin, not human .............

............ having said that, it is silly to expect ``justice`` and ``rule of law`` in pakistan where the government is illegitimate and the police can be bought for week old donuts ......

......... where is the expert on military law (and everything else) when you need him ?...........

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A very nice, well-argumentative piece. Well done G R K.
On the subject, I would like to post the following two letters to the editor.

1.
Military injustice
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_30-8-2005_pg3_7

Sir: A few days back, I was shocked to hear the news about the execution of an individual who was involved in a plot to kill President General Pervez Musharraf. Now five more people have been sentenced to death for their involvement in an attempt in 2003 to assassinate President Musharraf. Who says that Pakistani judiciary delays justice? But then again the accused were handed down sentences in the military court and not civil courts.
According to Islamic injunctions, a man can only be hanged till death if he succeeds in his attempt to kill another human being. But President Musharraf survived the assassination attempt. So why was Islam Siddiqui hanged on August 20?

MUHAMMAD WASEEM ELAHI
Gujranwala

2.
Justice delayed...
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_30-8-2005_pg3_7

Sir: Keeping in mind the events of the recent past, we are forced to wonder whether Pakistan actually is a democratic country or not. I might not be wrong when I say that most of us do not believe it to be democratic. Pakistan is a country in which only the leaders have the freedom of speech and only they are entitled to justice.
The people behind the assassination attempt on the president have now been given the death sentence by a military court. The culprits responsible for the attack on the Karachi corps commander were tracked down within days and were arrested and punished. The Sindh DIG was also attacked and the individual involved was immediately arrested.
By the grace of God all the people in these incidents survived. But the murder case of an honoured educationist and scholar is being neglected by the police and the government. My husband, Dr Muhammad Saleem Chaudhry, who was the principal of the Dawood College of Engineering and Technology, was ruthlessly gunned down on March 25, 2005. Five months have passed but there has been no progress in the case. The incapability of the police department can be gauged by the fact that in such a ‘high profile case’ as Dr Chaudhry’s, the whereabouts of the driver — the sole eye-witness — are unknown.
Mr president, I yet again request you to probe into the matter. My husband’s services have been recognised by your government which awarded him the ‘Sitara-e-Imtiaz’. However, justice is as important as compliments and recognition.

SIMEEN SALEEM
Karachi

Re: # 10

You have made a $$$ point. Can you please share your tips on how to recognize a [sexually frustrated pakistani (or any desi) male] ? Your kind input will prepare the women of the world to be on high alert and set their radars accordingly.

Thanks.