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Re: # 275

What... that`s it? lol

Is this the best you can do? And that too copied from Ahemdi websites?

Bubba you`ll have to work very hard on spinning things out of context. Otherwise, you`re wasting everyone`s time and more of your rapidly depleting brain cells. While you`re at it, take some elementary courses in English composition too. It may help to conceal your spinning better...one shouldn`t lose hope even if he`s hopeless. ;-)~~

ntsyed,

You are rambling incoherently. Does it hurt that much?

While you insist that apostates may be allowed to live in peace, your uncle Maudoodi thought differently. Here we go ...

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Elaborating on killing of apostates and “no compulsion in religion” commandment of Quran … Maudoodi explains: “This means we do not compel anyone to embrace our religion. This is true. But we must warn anyone who wishes to recant that this door is impassable to free traffic. If you wish to come, do so with the firm decision that you cannot escape.”

He further states:

“There are two methods of dealing with an apostate. Either make him an outlaw by depriving him of his citizenship and allowing him mere existence, or end his life. The first method is definitely more severe than the second, because he exists in a state in which ‘neither lives nor dies’. Killing him is preferable. That way both his agony and the agony of society are ended simultaneously.”

Maudoodi, Murtad Ki Saza Islami Qanoon Mein (“Punishment for Apostates in Islamic Law”), page 51.


MORE ON APOSTASY

“In our domain we neither allow any Muslim to change his religion nor allow any other religion to propagate its faith”

And

“The execution of apostates has already decided the issue. Since we do not allow any Muslim to embrace any other religion, the question of allowing other religions to open their missions and propagate their faiths within our boundaries does not rise.”

Maudoodi, Murtad Ki Saza Islami Qanoon Mein (“Punishment for Apostates in Islamic Law”), Lahore: Islamic Publications Ltd, 1981, 8th edition, page 32.

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You need to get your story straight ...

Re: # 82
One of my teachers gave this wisdom to men:
Never engage in an argument with a woman, because you can never win.
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Women are superior to men in almost every way. One way is their communication and relationship skills. I`m sure you`d agree that the quality of ``leadership`` may become better better as there are more women who get into those roles. My only one concern is that though feminism may have done a lot of good, it also kind of told women to ``become like men``. Feminists told men to become feminine, and told women to become masculine. So what might happen is if a woman copies a man, she will become a person who`s worse than that man.
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But this is no personal attack, I remember what my teacher said.
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It`s hard to explain in a short paragraph, but if you read these three books of my teachers, they`ll say it much better than I could:
``Iron John`` and ``Sibling Society`` by Robert Bly. ``What Really Works With Men`` by A. Justin Sterling.
Sorry, I hope I didn`t offend you in any way. Men and women need to work together in partnership. Each has their special role, like ying and yang
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Re: # 87
of course the music of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, there is a treasure of roots, the best poetry, history, wisdom, healing, etc.

Re: # 87
I`d love to recommend the following scholars, Hamza Yusuf, Cornel West, Arundhati Roy, Edward Said, Robert Bly

Re: # 82
Dear Sis,
I`d love to talk to you about feminism. But can we do that some other calmer times?
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Re: # 80
A couple of years ago, I asked a Nation of Islam man, ``I heard you guys were merging with the MAINSTREAM of Islam``. He said, ``Yea brother, but when are the sufi`s going to merge with the mainstream of Islam, when are the shia and the sunni going to merge with MAINSTREAM Islam``?...
The brother made a deep point.

Re: # 78
Well, it seems like twisting and bending, in order to rationalize and justify your support for Rush and Seinfeld. Such comments, even in jest, have a ``tone`` of racism, and can`t just be explained by ``ha ha I was just being funny, honey``.
Rush is a hypocrite, why would anyone defend that drug addicted racist lard who for years has preached how bad drugs are

Re: # 70

``laton kay bhoot baton say nahin mantey ......... ``
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this is one of my favorite sayings too, and I am forced to say it when people act ``ignoramously``

Re: # 69
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Very well put
lol
Nice summary!

Re: # 60
It`s great the you have such a broad perspective, and have grave concerns about Roberts, etc. Thanks for working for Civil Rights, for all of us

Re: # 55

Payan, I agree with you:

>>Very good reminders!
>>Now tell me, my friend, how do leaders of ISNA demonstrate their love and obedience >>of the Holy Prophet (PBUH)?

Re: # 42
Yea, but can you try to empathize with the frustrations of the people neglected or mistreated by ``leaders`` of ISNA?

Re: # 40
Good points, I agree

Re: # 36
When you go to a mosque, you will see many people from the ``east`` and from ``africa`` who look ``white``. This black and white difference is mostly a result of colonization and slavery of the non-white in the past 500 years. Read the book ``Black Skin White Mask`` by Fanon:
http://www.newsreel.org/films/frantzfa.htm

Re: # 33
I agree with you except the last para.
I understand yar, but there are millions of organizations in America, which don`t have so much mismanagement. For example, a simple thing as, why don`t they ever reply to letters? This is a big deal. Why don`t they have a form on their website like most service organizations do. I mean they should know the basic courses of ``Customer Service``, yar! This is horrendous, the way they just ignore me, as if I don`t exist for them. And then suddenly I`m alive for them when they need my money???