Rape and Exploitation - Pakistan’s Dilemma

mr. t: what are you trying to prove??

Salim_Chauhan:
i agree with your post completely. But you are missing the point of institutions having any semblance of being authoritative under a dictator.

You expect courts to work judiciously under a dictator? These horrible crimes will keep on happening as long as you are in the good books of El-Presidente. Is that so hard to understand?

Temporal,
You were right there on the job. Did your cohorts provoke me with profanity hurled at my family and me? Did Chowk Staff, to which you are somehow connected, unfairly side with your cohorts or not? First you answer, then I will tell you everything you need to know.
I think that this is good. Let`s get it ALL in front of the Chowk audience.

mr. chauhan #106 responsibility starts at the top - particularly in a case like mukhtaran mai where musharaff demonstrated a contemptible attitude to the rape case even after the facts were known to him.

#105, Tahmed Sahib, Yes, the Mullah (the whistle blower showed a lot of courage) and not enough can be said about MukhtaraN Mai. Not only did she endure her unjust, cruel, and savage ordeal, but she fought agaiinst the powerful system despite the risk to her life and the obvious ``shame`` unjustly imposed on victims by Paki society.

Friend #97:

appreciate your comments and i have answered that in #64


why is this important?

how can that person who can own up to the posted quotes by kham can write the “sattire” in #44

salim

a simple yes or no

did you or did you not author the quotes in 67

Why do Pakis deny that there is something wrong in Pakistan? They are always searching for an evil person who caused them to do evil. What is wrong with admitting that ``honorable`` Paki men, acting in their quasi-official authority, sanctioned a cruel, savage, humiliating, and irreversible punishment on an innocent woman? What is wrong with admitting that the Lahore Court succumbed to influence and pressure from influential Paki people to overturn the lower court`s verdict against the perpetrators?

To turn this travesty of law into a stage for bringing back Benazir Bhutto or Nawaz Sharif is nothing short of opportunistic.

actually, there are some heros in this too:

1. mukhtaran mai - who used the money to start a school in the same village, and who continues to speak out against the outrage committed on her.

2. the village mullah - who brought the case to the open by speaking out during the friday prayers (and you know how much i hate mullahs - but lets give credit where credit is due).

Why Pakisatnis even consider Musharraf as the rightful Head of State.? Musharraf under constitution of 1973 is deserving of death sentence on charges of Treason. He should be considered a criminal from the day 12th October, 1999 when he and his cohorts deprived people of pakistan of their government. From that day these criminals and thugs in khakis have held pakistanis hostage under their occupation.

To expect him to apologise over the statement or other such issues is irrelevant at the very least.

Mr. salim: so i think you and i agree. actually, even mushy agrees that the remark was stupid (he said so) - only now he says he didnt say it!

The rapists = Panchayat, the influential family, the actual rapists, the police who didn`t interfere, the Lahore high court who ``discovered`` some profound evidence to overturn the case, and the army of self-serving do gooders who created a cricus out of the whole tragedy to further their own agenda.

Listen people,
I am totally against Mushy`s remarks. But shouldn`t we hang the rapists first then castrate the insensitive dictator?

Tahmed Sahib,
Of course. Mushy better be miserable for the miserably stupid remark he made. I mean even without MukhtaraN Mai`s particular case of absolute cruelty imposed by a figure of authroity, a Panchayat and validated by a higher court, Lahore Court, Mushy`s remark would have been considered extremely stupid and irrational. The rape of MukhtaraN Mai just makes the remark even more insensitive, considering that she was NOT raped by a sserial rapist or an accepted criminal, but rather by ``honorable`` men of her own village, acting as executors of justice. What a shame?

Mr salim: mushy seems to have done quite well for a stupid man, i think.

#95, Tahmed Saheb,
I have said repeatedly that Mushy is totally guilty of at least stupidity and more probably insensitivity, ignorance, and speaking while brains are AWOL.

mr. salim: sorry to interrupt the altercation between you and mr t (but then, meddling is not against chowk guidelines).

musharaff`s misery?? you serious??