Bina Shah October 10, 2005
#1 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:04:28 am
And in the meanwhile , quake or no quake , its business as usual >>
8 Islamic terrorists among 16 killed in quake-hit J&K
Srinagar, October 9
Sixteen persons, including eight Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) infiltrators and a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were killed in Jammu and Kashmir since last evening, an official spokesman said today.
Troops foiled an infiltration bid when they gunned down eight LeT infiltrators near the Line of Control (LoC) at Jamia Galli Gulmarg this morning, the spokesman said, adding a soldier was also killed while two others were injured in the gun-battle.
Security forces killed another LeT militant in an encounter at Dangiwacha in the north Kashmir district of Baramula last night. An AK rifle, four magazines, four hand grenades and 80 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Three militants, including a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were gunned down by the security forces during a search operation late last night at Sayan village under the Kokernag police station.
An AK rifle, five magazines, two pistols, one hand grenade, 108 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Two charred bodies of militants along with two AK rifles, five magazines and 19 rounds were recovered from the debris of the Janwari Complex at Sopore where security forces and ultras were locked in a gunfight on Friday, the spokesman said.
Militants kidnapped and later killed Mohammad Yousuf at Bansal Mahore in the Udhampur district last night, he said. — UNI
8 Islamic terrorists among 16 killed in quake-hit J&K
Srinagar, October 9
Sixteen persons, including eight Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) infiltrators and a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were killed in Jammu and Kashmir since last evening, an official spokesman said today.
Troops foiled an infiltration bid when they gunned down eight LeT infiltrators near the Line of Control (LoC) at Jamia Galli Gulmarg this morning, the spokesman said, adding a soldier was also killed while two others were injured in the gun-battle.
Security forces killed another LeT militant in an encounter at Dangiwacha in the north Kashmir district of Baramula last night. An AK rifle, four magazines, four hand grenades and 80 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Three militants, including a self-styled district commander of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, were gunned down by the security forces during a search operation late last night at Sayan village under the Kokernag police station.
An AK rifle, five magazines, two pistols, one hand grenade, 108 rounds were seized from the slain ultra.
Two charred bodies of militants along with two AK rifles, five magazines and 19 rounds were recovered from the debris of the Janwari Complex at Sopore where security forces and ultras were locked in a gunfight on Friday, the spokesman said.
Militants kidnapped and later killed Mohammad Yousuf at Bansal Mahore in the Udhampur district last night, he said. — UNI
#2 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:22:09 am
And in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) , also called as `Azad Kashmir` by some ,
``The Kashmir Earthquake`` is not a story that can be told in numbers. Twenty thousand dead? What does it mean?
Perhaps it would make sense to ask the living. But they do not seem to be interested.
The only thing that brings fire to their eyes is a mention of the government.
``The bastards want us to be a part of Pakistan,`` a young man spits out the words as if he had never intended them to taste his tongue.
``The Kashmir Earthquake`` is not a story that can be told in numbers. Twenty thousand dead? What does it mean?
Perhaps it would make sense to ask the living. But they do not seem to be interested.
The only thing that brings fire to their eyes is a mention of the government.
``The bastards want us to be a part of Pakistan,`` a young man spits out the words as if he had never intended them to taste his tongue.
#3 Posted by temporal on October 10, 2005 1:28:54 am
binoo:
pray?
yes, for edge sahib and his kind!
as for the victims....from here...cash would rule
as i said to ijaz, you would do great service if you could keep us abreast of aid abuse...
lve
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pray?
yes, for edge sahib and his kind!
as for the victims....from here...cash would rule
as i said to ijaz, you would do great service if you could keep us abreast of aid abuse...
lve
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#4 Posted by Bina_Shah on October 10, 2005 2:12:50 am
International aid organizations are accepting donations:
Oxfam www.oxfam.org
Red Cross www.redcross.org
Mercy International www.mercycorps.org
As for aid abuse, we aren`t even thinking on those terms. This morning I was with some doctors who are flying out and there is no question but that they are simply offering their services for helping the victims. Money, goods, food, and other items are pouring in to relief camps and nobody is really concerned with theft or abuse at the moment.
Oxfam www.oxfam.org
Red Cross www.redcross.org
Mercy International www.mercycorps.org
As for aid abuse, we aren`t even thinking on those terms. This morning I was with some doctors who are flying out and there is no question but that they are simply offering their services for helping the victims. Money, goods, food, and other items are pouring in to relief camps and nobody is really concerned with theft or abuse at the moment.
#5 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 10, 2005 2:15:25 am
National tragedies of this nature seem to have a positive function of bringing together many otherwise disparate and divergent groups often at conflict in a society.
I am glad to read that such movements are in evidence and at a very copious and extensive level. One hopes and prays for their permanence in our society.
The level of response so far is encouraging. I hope that the financial response is just as good.
About me? I have done my part, I think.
More power to you all. We who have became aliens to that history and geography eons ago can only wish you more power while we do whatever we can in our feeble way!
I am glad to read that such movements are in evidence and at a very copious and extensive level. One hopes and prays for their permanence in our society.
The level of response so far is encouraging. I hope that the financial response is just as good.
About me? I have done my part, I think.
More power to you all. We who have became aliens to that history and geography eons ago can only wish you more power while we do whatever we can in our feeble way!
#6 Posted by Bina_Shah on October 10, 2005 2:20:59 am
Pakistan`s recent humanitarian tragedy is immense, with thousands having lost their families, homes and sources of livlihood.It is the poor and poverty stricken who are affected the most; numerous villages razed to the ground. Phase I of emergency donations is already in motion providing immediate relief to the injured and homeless. Phase II of long-term donations and funding will be needed to support extensive rehabilitation in the area.
Please donate generously and pass on this information to your friends and others who are able to assist and make a difference. Also please share information and other sources of donations which will directly assist affected people in Northern Pakistan.
Donations to UNICEF Canada`s South Asia Earthquake Emergency Appeal, can be made on-line at www.unicef.ca, by telephone at 1-877-955-3111 or by mail at UNICEF Canada, 2200 Yonge Street, Suite 1100, Toronto, ON M4S 2C6.
https://secure.unicef.ca/portal/SmartDefault.aspx?at=1211
World Vision Canada
http://www.worldvision.ca/home/content-archives/content-stories/pakistan-devastated-by-earthquake/
Care Canada
https://www.strategicprofitsinc.com/wn/care/sp_don_e.php
Oxfam`s Asian Earthquake Appeal in the UK:
http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_you_can_do/give_to_oxfam/donate/asian_quake.htm
Please donate generously and pass on this information to your friends and others who are able to assist and make a difference. Also please share information and other sources of donations which will directly assist affected people in Northern Pakistan.
Donations to UNICEF Canada`s South Asia Earthquake Emergency Appeal, can be made on-line at www.unicef.ca, by telephone at 1-877-955-3111 or by mail at UNICEF Canada, 2200 Yonge Street, Suite 1100, Toronto, ON M4S 2C6.
https://secure.unicef.ca/portal/SmartDefault.aspx?at=1211
World Vision Canada
http://www.worldvision.ca/home/content-archives/content-stories/pakistan-devastated-by-earthquake/
Care Canada
https://www.strategicprofitsinc.com/wn/care/sp_don_e.php
Oxfam`s Asian Earthquake Appeal in the UK:
http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_you_can_do/give_to_oxfam/donate/asian_quake.htm
#7 Posted by smartsyco on October 10, 2005 2:39:48 am
Re: # 2
i think you do not watch tv....or you don`t live upto date with current affairs......do me a favour on your tv......and sit down in front of tv for half hour and you will watch how peole are helping with each other....and specially from karachi i wasn`t expecting this much help...because i used to believe they will die fighting with each other..but they are leading us in front....still if you don`t believe then get your car on and reach to isb.....and watch....if still it doesn`t comfort you......roads are on for bala kot.......
and mind it..........we have most difficult tracks in the world to reach northern areas....take example of karakoram.......
i would request you one......stop criticizing and act something good for the nation........
i think you do not watch tv....or you don`t live upto date with current affairs......do me a favour on your tv......and sit down in front of tv for half hour and you will watch how peole are helping with each other....and specially from karachi i wasn`t expecting this much help...because i used to believe they will die fighting with each other..but they are leading us in front....still if you don`t believe then get your car on and reach to isb.....and watch....if still it doesn`t comfort you......roads are on for bala kot.......
and mind it..........we have most difficult tracks in the world to reach northern areas....take example of karakoram.......
i would request you one......stop criticizing and act something good for the nation........
#8 Posted by smartsyco on October 10, 2005 2:45:20 am
come on world.........we were being forward whenever you need.....we were the first to help ....example tusnami and this time we need you.......and i am sure that you will never let us down........
#10 Posted by amrita on October 10, 2005 7:09:06 am
bina - you got it.
edge - pls check out cnn as well and look what they have to say about the indian side.
edge - pls check out cnn as well and look what they have to say about the indian side.
#12 Posted by southasian on October 10, 2005 8:06:34 am
It`s gratifying to know of Pakistani general public`s overwhelming response. I think we Indians can at least send antibiotics and other medicines. In an ideal world of course our men and machinery should have reached ahead of those from the US and Britain. Indian public has all the sympathy and good wishes for their neighbours. Only the day before a two minute silence was observed in my neighbourhood Ramlila for both Pakistani and Indian victims.
#13 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on October 10, 2005 8:58:51 am
Where can one donate money ONLINE?
Thanks.
Thanks.
#14 Posted by smartsyco on October 10, 2005 9:31:46 am
Re: # 9
you are right no doubt in it
he is absoulotly a moron
you are right no doubt in it
he is absoulotly a moron
#15 Posted by temporal on October 10, 2005 9:46:54 am
bina #4
As for aid abuse, we aren`t even thinking on those terms..... Money, goods, food, and other items are pouring in to relief camps and nobody is really concerned with theft or abuse at the moment.
to an extent this is an instant outpouring...fine...but the affects of this massive earthquake will linger for a long time...rebuilding, reconstruction, rehabilitation will take a while…
my concern was for the long term…we will continue to donate and raise funds (from here)…one of the things those there can help us with is to monitor the flow of funds and report any abuse…so the flow is redirected towards those who do their jobs better
As for aid abuse, we aren`t even thinking on those terms..... Money, goods, food, and other items are pouring in to relief camps and nobody is really concerned with theft or abuse at the moment.
to an extent this is an instant outpouring...fine...but the affects of this massive earthquake will linger for a long time...rebuilding, reconstruction, rehabilitation will take a while…
my concern was for the long term…we will continue to donate and raise funds (from here)…one of the things those there can help us with is to monitor the flow of funds and report any abuse…so the flow is redirected towards those who do their jobs better
#17 Posted by Pardesi on October 10, 2005 10:21:45 am
Thank God, pakistani rulers have finally put public interest ahead of their own pride. Wish they had made that decision sooner. Situation, as covered by CNN, is really horrible for poor folks out in POK. Our heartfelt sympathies are with you.
October 10, 2005
Pakistan to Accept Quake Relief From India
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 12:14 p.m. ET
NEW DELHI (AP) -- Pakistan said Monday it will accept relief aid for earthquake victims from its longtime rival India, a move that carries immense political implications for the neighbors who have fought three wars.
India`s Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said his country would send tents, food, blankets and medicine to the hard-hit Pakistani portion of Kashmir.
The announcement came after Pakistani Foreign Ministry said Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh telephoned Pakistan`s high commissioner in New Delhi and ``reiterated his offer to send relief aid to us for earthquake victims.``
High Commissioner Aziz Ahmed Khan met Singh and then contacted the government in Islamabad, which decided to accept the Indian offer after consultations at the highest level, Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.
Earlier Monday, India said Pakistan turned down its offer of helicopters for rescue operations, saying it had enough at the moment. Pakistan also ruled out launching joint rescue operations with India for earthquake victims in Kashmir.
Pakistan and India have a long history of bitter relations, particularly over Kashmir -- the focus of two of their three wars. However, the two sides have taken several steps since last year to improve relations.
Soon after Saturday`s earthquake, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had called Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and offered humanitarian help. Musharraf also made a similar offer for the victims of the quake in the Indian portion of Kashmir where more than 800 people died.
Death toll estimates in Pakistan ranged from 20,000 to 30,000.
October 10, 2005
Pakistan to Accept Quake Relief From India
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 12:14 p.m. ET
NEW DELHI (AP) -- Pakistan said Monday it will accept relief aid for earthquake victims from its longtime rival India, a move that carries immense political implications for the neighbors who have fought three wars.
India`s Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said his country would send tents, food, blankets and medicine to the hard-hit Pakistani portion of Kashmir.
The announcement came after Pakistani Foreign Ministry said Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh telephoned Pakistan`s high commissioner in New Delhi and ``reiterated his offer to send relief aid to us for earthquake victims.``
High Commissioner Aziz Ahmed Khan met Singh and then contacted the government in Islamabad, which decided to accept the Indian offer after consultations at the highest level, Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.
Earlier Monday, India said Pakistan turned down its offer of helicopters for rescue operations, saying it had enough at the moment. Pakistan also ruled out launching joint rescue operations with India for earthquake victims in Kashmir.
Pakistan and India have a long history of bitter relations, particularly over Kashmir -- the focus of two of their three wars. However, the two sides have taken several steps since last year to improve relations.
Soon after Saturday`s earthquake, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had called Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and offered humanitarian help. Musharraf also made a similar offer for the victims of the quake in the Indian portion of Kashmir where more than 800 people died.
Death toll estimates in Pakistan ranged from 20,000 to 30,000.
#18 Posted by JagdeeshGodbole on October 10, 2005 11:25:23 am
Re: # 16
Well I was looking for an organization that would give money directly to the people, rather than spending it on overheads and such. But thanks anyway
Well I was looking for an organization that would give money directly to the people, rather than spending it on overheads and such. But thanks anyway
#19 Posted by dullabhatti on October 10, 2005 11:29:55 am
Clearly people has come together to help each other. You can see the outpouring of sympathy and help in the TV coverge coming from Pakistan. unfortunately people are not trained to handle heavy rubble and lack equipment to do so as a result can`t help much to the ones buried under concrete. Only agency in pakistan that can do help is Army and you see lot of them with their hands folded in their arm-pits standing around but very few doing actual work. You also see utter absence of civilian public officials in this mess. Where is the civilian government agencies and local governments? All you see from government side is mushy, aziz and sultan again and again. are these only 3 officials allowed to talk to media and be seen on tv?
#20 Posted by smartsyco on October 10, 2005 11:35:21 am
Re: # 19
well i think so.....they are only 3 allowed to talk to media about the massive earthquake ......
but i guess army has done alot.........we have most difficult tracks to get reach the northern areas and army has done their job......they opened the tracks to reach kashmire and balakot by road.....but unfortunatly we dont have machinery.....and that`s why we are depending on other countries......this is making situation more worst......
well i think so.....they are only 3 allowed to talk to media about the massive earthquake ......
but i guess army has done alot.........we have most difficult tracks to get reach the northern areas and army has done their job......they opened the tracks to reach kashmire and balakot by road.....but unfortunatly we dont have machinery.....and that`s why we are depending on other countries......this is making situation more worst......
#21 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 12:52:44 pm
Meanwhile , business bacl to normal in J&K >>
Terrorists gun down 12 in J-KAdd to Clippings
PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10
JAMMU: In gruesome pre-dawn strikes, militants, allegedly belonging to pro-Pak Hizbul Mujahideen outfit, killed ten members of two Hindu families by slitting their throats in Rajouri district of Jammu and Kashmir today, police sources said here.
A group of militants belonging to Hizbul`s so called Pir Panchal regiment led by its self-styled Deputy Divisional commander, Sangat Pathan alias Abu Hamza swooped on Rajnagar area of Budhal tehsil in Rajouri and barged into the house of Munishi Ram late on Sunday night.
Some of the militants helped themselves to the food later in the wee hours, killed Munshi Ram, his two sons, a brother and nephew by slitting their throats. All of them died on the spot, the sources said adding that the killers then fled the scene.
The same group is supposed to have later gone to Mora Gabber village nearby and forced their entry into the house of Kartar Singh and killed him and his three sons, the sources said.
Kartar`s fourth son was injured in the attack. The militants also killed one Satbir Singh and Nazir Hussain in the area during their killing spree, they said. However, no militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the killings thus far.
Police has launched a hunt to trace the attackers and suspect the involvement of Hizbul Mujahideen, which had warned people in rural areas from passing on information about them to police and security forces, they said.
Terrorists gun down 12 in J-KAdd to Clippings
PTI[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 10
JAMMU: In gruesome pre-dawn strikes, militants, allegedly belonging to pro-Pak Hizbul Mujahideen outfit, killed ten members of two Hindu families by slitting their throats in Rajouri district of Jammu and Kashmir today, police sources said here.
A group of militants belonging to Hizbul`s so called Pir Panchal regiment led by its self-styled Deputy Divisional commander, Sangat Pathan alias Abu Hamza swooped on Rajnagar area of Budhal tehsil in Rajouri and barged into the house of Munishi Ram late on Sunday night.
Some of the militants helped themselves to the food later in the wee hours, killed Munshi Ram, his two sons, a brother and nephew by slitting their throats. All of them died on the spot, the sources said adding that the killers then fled the scene.
The same group is supposed to have later gone to Mora Gabber village nearby and forced their entry into the house of Kartar Singh and killed him and his three sons, the sources said.
Kartar`s fourth son was injured in the attack. The militants also killed one Satbir Singh and Nazir Hussain in the area during their killing spree, they said. However, no militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the killings thus far.
Police has launched a hunt to trace the attackers and suspect the involvement of Hizbul Mujahideen, which had warned people in rural areas from passing on information about them to police and security forces, they said.
#22 Posted by dullabhatti on October 10, 2005 12:54:05 pm
#20 even if one has the heavy equipment it is not easy to move it around in such conditions as road are blocked and terain is difficult. coupled with other thousands operational glitches I don`t see people buried under rubble in remote parts to be rescued alive. Anyone who can survive after a week is a nothing but a miracle.
I see lot of Chowkies missing from boards. Hope their families, friends and relative are ok in the region.
I see lot of Chowkies missing from boards. Hope their families, friends and relative are ok in the region.
#23 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 1:09:08 pm
One nice thing about the quake is that over 1000 Paki soldiers were killed.
#24 Posted by akber on October 10, 2005 2:03:48 pm
edge,
would you stop spiting hatered against pakistan, dont you have any compassion for ppl in suffering plz try to take control over your emotions for a while and do something to help the ppl in trouble.
i have just came back from PAF base relief camp and its just comendable to see how ppl are contributing towards the cause, i have registered myself for volunteers to go up north to distribute stuff and help in rescue missions.
May Allah help us all in this hour of need.
would you stop spiting hatered against pakistan, dont you have any compassion for ppl in suffering plz try to take control over your emotions for a while and do something to help the ppl in trouble.
i have just came back from PAF base relief camp and its just comendable to see how ppl are contributing towards the cause, i have registered myself for volunteers to go up north to distribute stuff and help in rescue missions.
May Allah help us all in this hour of need.
#25 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 10, 2005 3:40:38 pm
Edge #1 is right. For him/her indeed ``its business as usual``. Read on! Don`t believe it? Read #2!!
Isn`t it refereshing though that such edges are only in ones or twos out there? And they will smell soon too, the coffee.
Isn`t it refereshing though that such edges are only in ones or twos out there? And they will smell soon too, the coffee.
#26 Posted by ali_1 on October 10, 2005 5:01:17 pm
Kashmiri Separatists Dispense Quake Aid
By MATTHEW ROSENBERG, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago
JULLA, India - Shaukat Khan hiked across a valley to collect food and supplies he thought were being handed out by authorities. Instead, he found what thousands of others discovered after the earthquake that shattered their villages: the help was coming from Kashmiri separatists on the Indian side of the disputed territory.
``We are the ones who are here with blood, with food, with medicines — the people can see that,`` said Yasin Malik, leader of the separatist Jammu and
Kashmir and Liberation Front.
It`s an aid effort that has not gone unnoticed in a land sharply opposed to Indian rule amid a 15-year insurgency that has claimed more than 66,000 lives, mostly civilians.
The Islamic rebel groups say they are only trying to help the needy but admit with some satisfaction that the tragedy could end up boosting their cause to wrest the bitterly disputed Himalayan region from mostly Hindu India.
Kashmir, a largely Muslim land, was a protectorate under British rule that remained nominally independent after the creation of India and Pakistan in a bloody partition of the subcontinent following independence in 1947.
Within a year, the two neighbors began a war that left India with two-thirds of the region and Muslim Pakistan controlling the remainder. Both now claim it in its entirety.
Within hours of the quake that devastated towns and villages on Saturday, separatists had started up what three days on remains the most visible aid operation in Indian Kashmir.
``No one else is giving the people as much as we are giving,`` said Hidayat-Ullah Sheikh of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference, a leading separatist alliance.
In mountainside villages, members of the two separatist groups have been handing out everything from milk to medicine as the Indian government and army have faltered in their relief efforts.
Malik said his group also has begun working with Pakistani counterparts on the other side of the heavily militarized frontier — an artificial division of the beautiful region known for its apple orchards, gardens and azure lakes.
``In some ways the separatist groups have won round one with their initial aid effort,`` said W.P.S. Sidhu, a Kashmir expert with the Geneva Center for Security Policy, a think tank based in the Swiss city.
``If the Indian establishment stays aloof and lets the separatists take initiatives ... then I think the Indian state would have done itself irreversible damage,`` he said in a telephone interview.
For men like Malik, the quake has exposed the fiction of Kashmir`s division — the two sides have shared a culture, language and religion for centuries. Today, they share a tragedy and, as far as the separatists are concerned, a relief effort.
``There are no Pakistanis or Indians here, just Kashmiris,`` he said on his way out to the Uri valley, a border region that was the worst hit part of India in the quake.
The idea of a single Kashmir is a long-cherished dream of many residents, and dozens of groups have openly campaigned for independence or a merger with Pakistan since the 1950s. Unarmed separatist groups enjoy broad support even if violent militant groups do not.
The Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front also has an operational wing in Muzzaffarabad on the Pakistani side of the border and has strong ties with people there, as do other separatist groups, including some components of the Hurriyat.
The results of that struggle are clear in Indian Kashmir today, with at least half a million Indian troops peering at civilians from sandbagged bunkers, patrolling streets in green camouflage vehicles or plotting strategies in garrisons dotting the state. Dozens of soldiers on both sides were killed in the quake.
India accuses Pakistan of arming and aiding the Kashmiri militants, a charge denied by Islamabad, which says it only gives moral support. The Kashmir dispute is central to the enmity between the two nuclear rivals, which has eased recently with a two-year-old peace process.
Analysts say the strong showing by separatist groups in the aftermath of the quake also could help win them a role in the peace process from which they have so far been largely excluded.
India and Pakistan will have to ``take them more seriously ... listen to them and have them as participants in the process,`` said Mohammed Tariq, a Kashmiri political analyst.
The separatists are showing that they ``are part of Kashmir — they can`t be ignored,`` he said.
Similar situations have had mixed results. Faced with unprecedented death and destruction after the Dec. 26 tsunami, separatist rebels in the Indonesian province of Aceh and the government agreed to stop fighting and forged a peace accord.
Tamil Tiger rebels and the Sinhalese government also worked together to help shelter and feed survivors in Sri Lanka after the earthquake and killer waves last year. But their peace was short-lived: the Tamil Tigers last month assassinated the country`s foreign minister.
The brunt of the quake in India hit the fortified Uri valley, forcing authorities to throw open an area that for years has been largely off-limits to outsiders for security reasons.
That has given separatists bearing aid a chance to enter an area and burnish their leadership credentials.
``The separatists must feel that the situation will broaden their support base,`` said Ahmad Hussain, a political analyst and human rights activist.
For Khan, who hiked for half a day after hearing about the food handouts from a neighbor, the assistance from the separatists came as a surprise.
``Why are the soldiers not giving us what we need?`` he asked, pointing to some troops who stood by as blankets and rice were distributed.
By MATTHEW ROSENBERG, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago
JULLA, India - Shaukat Khan hiked across a valley to collect food and supplies he thought were being handed out by authorities. Instead, he found what thousands of others discovered after the earthquake that shattered their villages: the help was coming from Kashmiri separatists on the Indian side of the disputed territory.
``We are the ones who are here with blood, with food, with medicines — the people can see that,`` said Yasin Malik, leader of the separatist Jammu and
Kashmir and Liberation Front.
It`s an aid effort that has not gone unnoticed in a land sharply opposed to Indian rule amid a 15-year insurgency that has claimed more than 66,000 lives, mostly civilians.
The Islamic rebel groups say they are only trying to help the needy but admit with some satisfaction that the tragedy could end up boosting their cause to wrest the bitterly disputed Himalayan region from mostly Hindu India.
Kashmir, a largely Muslim land, was a protectorate under British rule that remained nominally independent after the creation of India and Pakistan in a bloody partition of the subcontinent following independence in 1947.
Within a year, the two neighbors began a war that left India with two-thirds of the region and Muslim Pakistan controlling the remainder. Both now claim it in its entirety.
Within hours of the quake that devastated towns and villages on Saturday, separatists had started up what three days on remains the most visible aid operation in Indian Kashmir.
``No one else is giving the people as much as we are giving,`` said Hidayat-Ullah Sheikh of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference, a leading separatist alliance.
In mountainside villages, members of the two separatist groups have been handing out everything from milk to medicine as the Indian government and army have faltered in their relief efforts.
Malik said his group also has begun working with Pakistani counterparts on the other side of the heavily militarized frontier — an artificial division of the beautiful region known for its apple orchards, gardens and azure lakes.
``In some ways the separatist groups have won round one with their initial aid effort,`` said W.P.S. Sidhu, a Kashmir expert with the Geneva Center for Security Policy, a think tank based in the Swiss city.
``If the Indian establishment stays aloof and lets the separatists take initiatives ... then I think the Indian state would have done itself irreversible damage,`` he said in a telephone interview.
For men like Malik, the quake has exposed the fiction of Kashmir`s division — the two sides have shared a culture, language and religion for centuries. Today, they share a tragedy and, as far as the separatists are concerned, a relief effort.
``There are no Pakistanis or Indians here, just Kashmiris,`` he said on his way out to the Uri valley, a border region that was the worst hit part of India in the quake.
The idea of a single Kashmir is a long-cherished dream of many residents, and dozens of groups have openly campaigned for independence or a merger with Pakistan since the 1950s. Unarmed separatist groups enjoy broad support even if violent militant groups do not.
The Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front also has an operational wing in Muzzaffarabad on the Pakistani side of the border and has strong ties with people there, as do other separatist groups, including some components of the Hurriyat.
The results of that struggle are clear in Indian Kashmir today, with at least half a million Indian troops peering at civilians from sandbagged bunkers, patrolling streets in green camouflage vehicles or plotting strategies in garrisons dotting the state. Dozens of soldiers on both sides were killed in the quake.
India accuses Pakistan of arming and aiding the Kashmiri militants, a charge denied by Islamabad, which says it only gives moral support. The Kashmir dispute is central to the enmity between the two nuclear rivals, which has eased recently with a two-year-old peace process.
Analysts say the strong showing by separatist groups in the aftermath of the quake also could help win them a role in the peace process from which they have so far been largely excluded.
India and Pakistan will have to ``take them more seriously ... listen to them and have them as participants in the process,`` said Mohammed Tariq, a Kashmiri political analyst.
The separatists are showing that they ``are part of Kashmir — they can`t be ignored,`` he said.
Similar situations have had mixed results. Faced with unprecedented death and destruction after the Dec. 26 tsunami, separatist rebels in the Indonesian province of Aceh and the government agreed to stop fighting and forged a peace accord.
Tamil Tiger rebels and the Sinhalese government also worked together to help shelter and feed survivors in Sri Lanka after the earthquake and killer waves last year. But their peace was short-lived: the Tamil Tigers last month assassinated the country`s foreign minister.
The brunt of the quake in India hit the fortified Uri valley, forcing authorities to throw open an area that for years has been largely off-limits to outsiders for security reasons.
That has given separatists bearing aid a chance to enter an area and burnish their leadership credentials.
``The separatists must feel that the situation will broaden their support base,`` said Ahmad Hussain, a political analyst and human rights activist.
For Khan, who hiked for half a day after hearing about the food handouts from a neighbor, the assistance from the separatists came as a surprise.
``Why are the soldiers not giving us what we need?`` he asked, pointing to some troops who stood by as blankets and rice were distributed.
#27 Posted by delhiwala on October 10, 2005 5:05:46 pm
Re: # 24
Akber,
Pay no attention to him, Gujju Baniya is Gumraah these days. I am offering you condolences and love in my prayers in the Gurudwara on behalf of Indians.
Akber,
Pay no attention to him, Gujju Baniya is Gumraah these days. I am offering you condolences and love in my prayers in the Gurudwara on behalf of Indians.
#28 Posted by Edge on October 10, 2005 5:10:53 pm
Ali khoosre...perhaps we do not want to help... as far as we are concerned `a good Kashmiri muslim` is a dead kashmiri muslim....as in `a good paki is a dead paki`....bloody islamic terrorists all.
#29 Posted by Behram1 on October 10, 2005 8:26:29 pm
Re: # 4
Dear Bina Shah,
Thank you for the effort.
Please let us know all the details of what is happening and also of what is not happening. International news that I have read so far suggests that Pakistani establishment is not too fast in its response. Why?
Our regulars are missing at this site. This is unusual. Is everybody alright?
My prayers are with all of you,
BBA
Dear Bina Shah,
Thank you for the effort.
Please let us know all the details of what is happening and also of what is not happening. International news that I have read so far suggests that Pakistani establishment is not too fast in its response. Why?
Our regulars are missing at this site. This is unusual. Is everybody alright?
My prayers are with all of you,
BBA
#30 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 10, 2005 9:28:45 pm
Re: # 13 [and #16]
The following information is being used quite comonly, it appears, by the donors: [the best is by using your credit cards through Pay Pal etc.]
See message:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lahore/message/11956
For international telegraphic transfer these donations can be deposited in any bank through: Swift Code: (UNILPKKA)
Type the word ``DONATE`` and SMS on 436
DONATE via SMS for EarthQuake Victims in Pakistan
For Mobilink and Ufone customers - SMS the word DONATE
to the number 436. Rs 3 will be deducted from your
balance and given towards the earthquake relief fund.
For international telegraphic transfer from any bank abroad also indicate
Swift Code U N I L P K KA
Donate Rs. 3/= per SMS towards MKRF Relief Fund – SMS the word DONATE to 436 – Each SMS cost Rs. 3/= + taxes –Send as many SMS as you can. This is a joint effort by GEO, Mobilink and Ufone
The following information is being used quite comonly, it appears, by the donors: [the best is by using your credit cards through Pay Pal etc.]
See message:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lahore/message/11956
For international telegraphic transfer these donations can be deposited in any bank through: Swift Code: (UNILPKKA)
Type the word ``DONATE`` and SMS on 436
DONATE via SMS for EarthQuake Victims in Pakistan
For Mobilink and Ufone customers - SMS the word DONATE
to the number 436. Rs 3 will be deducted from your
balance and given towards the earthquake relief fund.
For international telegraphic transfer from any bank abroad also indicate
Swift Code U N I L P K KA
Donate Rs. 3/= per SMS towards MKRF Relief Fund – SMS the word DONATE to 436 – Each SMS cost Rs. 3/= + taxes –Send as many SMS as you can. This is a joint effort by GEO, Mobilink and Ufone
#31 Posted by obiabani on October 10, 2005 9:33:23 pm
ONLINE DONATION FOR EDHI AND PRESIDENT`S RELIEF FUND
You can donate to
1) Edhi
2) President`s Relief Fund
at www.DevelopPakistan.org
Your donation is not only tax deductible in US but will also be matched dollar for dollar.
You can donate to
1) Edhi
2) President`s Relief Fund
at www.DevelopPakistan.org
Your donation is not only tax deductible in US but will also be matched dollar for dollar.
#32 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 11, 2005 4:58:27 am
Re: # 18
[#s 13, 16, 18, 30 etc]
The following are going to `cost` as close to zero as possible in `overhead` and administration. The only other alternative is to send your funds to your trusted friends and colleagues. I have noticed an overflow of `honesty` and zeal since last four days. I hope it is self sustainable. One or two people I know are already in the field as volunteers and doing the `zero` overhead transfer of funds.
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief
[#s 13, 16, 18, 30 etc]
The following are going to `cost` as close to zero as possible in `overhead` and administration. The only other alternative is to send your funds to your trusted friends and colleagues. I have noticed an overflow of `honesty` and zeal since last four days. I hope it is self sustainable. One or two people I know are already in the field as volunteers and doing the `zero` overhead transfer of funds.
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Donations to Victims of earthquake:
https://icnany.org/Donation/Donation.php?a=relief
#33 Posted by rsridhar on October 11, 2005 7:17:57 am
re:#12 by southasian
Pakis would look at anything from India with suspicion, even medicines. That is how they are, right from top downwards.
So many more lives could have been saved but for Mushyrat`s stupidity in refusing copters and combined rescue operations. India is next door, flush with vast resources and with experience of dealing with major earthquakes in the past. He refused offer of substantial help from India and took 48 h or more to say all he wants are some blankets and tents! In my world, this is called lunacy and the guy is certifiably mad. Even at this hour, the idiot was only thinking of his image.
My question to this rat is: what is more important, your image or lives of people trapped under the debris?
Sridhar
Pakis would look at anything from India with suspicion, even medicines. That is how they are, right from top downwards.
So many more lives could have been saved but for Mushyrat`s stupidity in refusing copters and combined rescue operations. India is next door, flush with vast resources and with experience of dealing with major earthquakes in the past. He refused offer of substantial help from India and took 48 h or more to say all he wants are some blankets and tents! In my world, this is called lunacy and the guy is certifiably mad. Even at this hour, the idiot was only thinking of his image.
My question to this rat is: what is more important, your image or lives of people trapped under the debris?
Sridhar
#34 Posted by dost_mittar on October 11, 2005 8:04:52 am
Bina:
As big as this tagedy is, it is also reflective of how it has brought the best in Pakistanis at home and abroad and among Indians as well. We may be children of different gods but are all the same before the forces of nature which does not respect any man made divisions and boundaries.
Let us hope that this spirit of generosity and cooperation lasts.
To rsridhar, Edge and others, you may want to discuss these issues at a later date, talking about anything other than compassion for those suffering at this time is in really poor taste.
As big as this tagedy is, it is also reflective of how it has brought the best in Pakistanis at home and abroad and among Indians as well. We may be children of different gods but are all the same before the forces of nature which does not respect any man made divisions and boundaries.
Let us hope that this spirit of generosity and cooperation lasts.
To rsridhar, Edge and others, you may want to discuss these issues at a later date, talking about anything other than compassion for those suffering at this time is in really poor taste.
#35 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 11, 2005 1:23:52 pm
Re: # 32
Sorry, I neglected to add the following:
The Edhi Foundation:
USA USA Edhi international Foundation.
42-07 National street
Corona, New York, 11368 USA
Tel: (718)(639-5120)
Fax:(718)(335-1978)
United Kingdom United Kingdom Edhi International Foundation,
7 Shakespeare road,
Finchley, Central London N3 IXE,
United Kingdom.
Tel:(081)(346-9232), (081)(349-0296)
Canada Canada Edhi Charitable Foundation, Inc.
100 McLevin Avenue,
Scarborough, Ontario B 2V5, Canada.
Tel/fax: (416)(293-4899)
Japan Japan Edhi International Foundation,
RM 101 COPO Nikkei, 1-25 4-Chome,
Minami-ohi Shinagawa -KU-Tokyo 140 Japan.
Australia Australia Abdul Sattar Edhi International Foundation,
Level 20, Picadly tower,
133, Castle reagh street, Sydney 2000,
Austrailia.
Tel: 02-2646499, 03-3767-7282
Fax: 03-3764-4395, 02-264-7337
Bangladesh Bangladesh Edhi International Foundation Inc,
2/2 Purana palton, 3rd Floor,
Dhaka - 1000
Network | Communication Network | Zonal Set-up | Foundation`s Network | Offices Throughout Pakistan
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Sorry, I neglected to add the following:
The Edhi Foundation:
USA USA Edhi international Foundation.
42-07 National street
Corona, New York, 11368 USA
Tel: (718)(639-5120)
Fax:(718)(335-1978)
United Kingdom United Kingdom Edhi International Foundation,
7 Shakespeare road,
Finchley, Central London N3 IXE,
United Kingdom.
Tel:(081)(346-9232), (081)(349-0296)
Canada Canada Edhi Charitable Foundation, Inc.
100 McLevin Avenue,
Scarborough, Ontario B 2V5, Canada.
Tel/fax: (416)(293-4899)
Japan Japan Edhi International Foundation,
RM 101 COPO Nikkei, 1-25 4-Chome,
Minami-ohi Shinagawa -KU-Tokyo 140 Japan.
Australia Australia Abdul Sattar Edhi International Foundation,
Level 20, Picadly tower,
133, Castle reagh street, Sydney 2000,
Austrailia.
Tel: 02-2646499, 03-3767-7282
Fax: 03-3764-4395, 02-264-7337
Bangladesh Bangladesh Edhi International Foundation Inc,
2/2 Purana palton, 3rd Floor,
Dhaka - 1000
Network | Communication Network | Zonal Set-up | Foundation`s Network | Offices Throughout Pakistan
Home | History | Ideology | Resources | Activities | Future Plans | At a Glance | Press Releases | e-mail
#36 Posted by jang on October 11, 2005 1:28:31 pm
#26
ali, as i write, the next article from Ferzana Versey is forthcoming, this topic will be discussed in detail there.
ali, as i write, the next article from Ferzana Versey is forthcoming, this topic will be discussed in detail there.
#37 Posted by S.P.Wakil on October 11, 2005 8:38:08 pm
Re: # 33
Well said. In my world too it is lunacy. But what can one do? I remember at the time of the Gujarat earthquake a few years ago a plane load of life saving aid supplies from Pakistan just stood there because our Indian authorities refused to accept/clear the aid supplies. It was allowed, I think, after four or five days to unload. A full 96 t0 120 hours lapsed between their offer and our acceptance as if the blankets, tents and medicines would write [intelligence] back home! Now I ask you!!
Lunacy? You bet. But what can we do?
Hey, human lives first and politics later!!
[What if the Americans had brokered that one too? It`s scary.]
Well said. In my world too it is lunacy. But what can one do? I remember at the time of the Gujarat earthquake a few years ago a plane load of life saving aid supplies from Pakistan just stood there because our Indian authorities refused to accept/clear the aid supplies. It was allowed, I think, after four or five days to unload. A full 96 t0 120 hours lapsed between their offer and our acceptance as if the blankets, tents and medicines would write [intelligence] back home! Now I ask you!!
Lunacy? You bet. But what can we do?
Hey, human lives first and politics later!!
[What if the Americans had brokered that one too? It`s scary.]
#39 Posted by rez on October 12, 2005 3:27:38 am
Assalaam O Alaikum
my name is Dr. Bilal Alam and i work at Ayub Teaching Hospital Abbottabad. You all know about the earthquake that has hit our country and caused great devastation. Thousands have lost their lives. Many thousands of people are injured and in critical condition. I work at the hospital which is currently overloaded with patients from Muzaffarabad, Balakot and Mansehra. Everday we receive hundreds of patients who have life threatening injuries. Treatment is currently underway and we are also sending medical teams to the nearby areas of Mansehra and Balakot. We constantly need medical supplies, blankets, clothes, drinking water etc. In order to acheive this, we have set up a fund at our College/Hospital so that people can contribute money and our any other equipment and help us carry out our tasks. All the information is at:
http://www.amcrelief.com
I would request you all to please visit the website where details on how to contribute and give aid are given. Please hurry you could save someone`s life...
my name is Dr. Bilal Alam and i work at Ayub Teaching Hospital Abbottabad. You all know about the earthquake that has hit our country and caused great devastation. Thousands have lost their lives. Many thousands of people are injured and in critical condition. I work at the hospital which is currently overloaded with patients from Muzaffarabad, Balakot and Mansehra. Everday we receive hundreds of patients who have life threatening injuries. Treatment is currently underway and we are also sending medical teams to the nearby areas of Mansehra and Balakot. We constantly need medical supplies, blankets, clothes, drinking water etc. In order to acheive this, we have set up a fund at our College/Hospital so that people can contribute money and our any other equipment and help us carry out our tasks. All the information is at:
http://www.amcrelief.com
I would request you all to please visit the website where details on how to contribute and give aid are given. Please hurry you could save someone`s life...
#40 Posted by DrDr on October 12, 2005 4:13:31 am
Injuns shudnt b pokin their nose in2 paki affairs. if the pakis feel they r gettin shafted & the gummit iz failing them they can always throw the bums out. oops.
#41 Posted by hamidm2 on October 12, 2005 6:02:36 am
#42 Posted by Romair on October 12, 2005 9:40:11 am
Just received this email:
The Richter scale is logarithmic in nature and an increase of one magnitude unit represents an amplitude of ten times. The seismic waves of 6 are ten times greater than of 5. However in terms of energy release a scale of 6 is more than 31 times than those of 5 scale.
It is essential to understand the above. The waves that will be recorded on the graph will be 10 times more of scale 6 compared to 5, but the energy released will not be 10 times but 31 times. A 7.6 earthquake can cause major damage upto 200 kilometers. It punches an energy equal to 160 million tons of TNT explosives. Hiroshima bomb was just 13 kilotons or 13,000 tons. The 7.6 earthquake we had, punched an energy equal to 12307692 Hiroshima bombs. ( One crore and twenty three lakh Hiroshima bombs)
The Richter scale is logarithmic in nature and an increase of one magnitude unit represents an amplitude of ten times. The seismic waves of 6 are ten times greater than of 5. However in terms of energy release a scale of 6 is more than 31 times than those of 5 scale.
It is essential to understand the above. The waves that will be recorded on the graph will be 10 times more of scale 6 compared to 5, but the energy released will not be 10 times but 31 times. A 7.6 earthquake can cause major damage upto 200 kilometers. It punches an energy equal to 160 million tons of TNT explosives. Hiroshima bomb was just 13 kilotons or 13,000 tons. The 7.6 earthquake we had, punched an energy equal to 12307692 Hiroshima bombs. ( One crore and twenty three lakh Hiroshima bombs)
#43 Posted by MantoLives on October 13, 2005 10:30:40 pm
Friday, October 14, 2005
Quake unites Sikhs, Hindus, Christians as Pakistanis
MANSEHRA: Radesh Singh, a Pakistani Sikh and his group of Hindu, Christian and Muslim friends have joined forces to help survivors of the devastating earthquake in northern Pakistan.
They hope efforts to provide relief and care would send a clear message of tolerance in the predominantly Muslim Pakistan. “We are here without any religious bias for people who are in dire need of help and care,” Radesh told Reuters in Mansehra, a district in Northwest Frontier Province now in ruins after Saturday’s disaster.
“We are also hoping that our efforts will give out a message that people from different religious backgrounds and communities can live peacefully together and help each other,” he said. An estimated 96 percent of Pakistan’s population are Muslim, about 1.7 percent are Christian and some 2.0 percent are Hindu, while others account0 for less than 0.5 percent.
Minorities in Pakistan have been targeted by Islamic militants recently. Just last week there was a bomb attack on a religious centre of the Ahmadiyya sect in the central province of Punjab that killed eight and wounded more than a dozen.
Radesh, who runs his own business in the province’s capital, Peshawar, came with a truckload of medicines, blankets, clothing and dry food mustered by his Sikh friends Rajinder and Ranjit Singh, Hindus Prakash and Diyaram and Emmanuel, a Christian. “It is simply an effort on our parts for the earthquake victims, who are in dire need of help. We have come here as human beings not as Sikhs, Christians, Hindus or Muslims,” Ranjit said. Rajinder and his Sikh friends were born in Peshawar and say they are Pakistanis first, second and last. “I even ran for the local bodies elections this time but lost,” Rajinder said. On Wednesday night they were faced with a different kind of problem. Having heard of incidents of looting of private relief vehicles and violence in badly hit areas, Rajinder and his friends stopped over in Mansehra, saying he and his friends wanted to distribute the goods under the supervision of the army.
“We just want these goods to reach the deserving people. We have come here as human beings and don’t want to get involved in any violent incidents,” Emanuel said. reuters
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005 10 14 story_14-10-2005_pg7_39
Quake unites Sikhs, Hindus, Christians as Pakistanis
MANSEHRA: Radesh Singh, a Pakistani Sikh and his group of Hindu, Christian and Muslim friends have joined forces to help survivors of the devastating earthquake in northern Pakistan.
They hope efforts to provide relief and care would send a clear message of tolerance in the predominantly Muslim Pakistan. “We are here without any religious bias for people who are in dire need of help and care,” Radesh told Reuters in Mansehra, a district in Northwest Frontier Province now in ruins after Saturday’s disaster.
“We are also hoping that our efforts will give out a message that people from different religious backgrounds and communities can live peacefully together and help each other,” he said. An estimated 96 percent of Pakistan’s population are Muslim, about 1.7 percent are Christian and some 2.0 percent are Hindu, while others account0 for less than 0.5 percent.
Minorities in Pakistan have been targeted by Islamic militants recently. Just last week there was a bomb attack on a religious centre of the Ahmadiyya sect in the central province of Punjab that killed eight and wounded more than a dozen.
Radesh, who runs his own business in the province’s capital, Peshawar, came with a truckload of medicines, blankets, clothing and dry food mustered by his Sikh friends Rajinder and Ranjit Singh, Hindus Prakash and Diyaram and Emmanuel, a Christian. “It is simply an effort on our parts for the earthquake victims, who are in dire need of help. We have come here as human beings not as Sikhs, Christians, Hindus or Muslims,” Ranjit said. Rajinder and his Sikh friends were born in Peshawar and say they are Pakistanis first, second and last. “I even ran for the local bodies elections this time but lost,” Rajinder said. On Wednesday night they were faced with a different kind of problem. Having heard of incidents of looting of private relief vehicles and violence in badly hit areas, Rajinder and his friends stopped over in Mansehra, saying he and his friends wanted to distribute the goods under the supervision of the army.
“We just want these goods to reach the deserving people. We have come here as human beings and don’t want to get involved in any violent incidents,” Emanuel said. reuters
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005 10 14 story_14-10-2005_pg7_39
#44 Posted by smartsyco on October 15, 2005 5:32:46 am
Re: # 22
they will be fine INSHALLAH
yeah this is not easy even after 7 days or more it is getting difficult and difficult to get reach there......as i was listening cnn last day i listened there....we are making so fast but every passing minute show us we are late......
so it is true indeed it is so much difficult to move with that much heavy machinery ..... and in difficult tracks like kashmire........i would like to aapreciate the people of pakistan and international community for this much help
may ALLAH bless them.......
they will be fine INSHALLAH
yeah this is not easy even after 7 days or more it is getting difficult and difficult to get reach there......as i was listening cnn last day i listened there....we are making so fast but every passing minute show us we are late......
so it is true indeed it is so much difficult to move with that much heavy machinery ..... and in difficult tracks like kashmire........i would like to aapreciate the people of pakistan and international community for this much help
may ALLAH bless them.......
#45 Posted by ZahraJ on October 15, 2005 3:52:35 pm
Posting a message from a friend:
From: ``Khan, Shahid``
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:02 pm
Subject: OPEN`s Appeal for Earthquake Relief Support
> Dear OPEN Members and Friends:
>
> WE NEED YOUR HELP!
>
> On Saturday, October 8th, Pakistan suffered the worst national
> disaster of its history. You have seen the pictures of the
> devastation and tragedy that has struck millions. To assist with
> the massive relief effort in the country, OPEN chapters in Boston,
> New York, Silicon Valley and Washington D.C. will be working
> closely with reputable charity organizations on the ground in
> Pakistan.
> You can help us in four areas:
>
> 1. $5M of emergency drugs to Pakistan:
> We have an urgent request to raise $25,000 to support the
> delivery of emergency drugs in Pakistan. One of OPEN Charter
> Members has arranged for the delivery of $5MM of emergency drugs
> from Americare. Americare works with LIFE US
> (; 501c3 organization) to deliver drugs to
> the affected areas. LIFE US needs $25K ASAP to transport drugs
> from Islamabad to remote areas in Azad Kashmir and NWFP. I am
> please to inform you that OPEN-US (Boston, New York, Silicon
> Valley and Washington D.C.) have announced a contribution of $10
> K! We are $15K short and, would like to request you to make a
> donation as soon as possible.
>
> Please visit the following URL to make your donation for this
>
initiative:
> For alternate locations, please write to
>
> Please forward this message to your friends and co-workers.
>
> Thank you very much for your support.
>
> OPEN New York
> http://www.opennewyork.org
From: ``Khan, Shahid``
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:02 pm
Subject: OPEN`s Appeal for Earthquake Relief Support
> Dear OPEN Members and Friends:
>
> WE NEED YOUR HELP!
>
> On Saturday, October 8th, Pakistan suffered the worst national
> disaster of its history. You have seen the pictures of the
> devastation and tragedy that has struck millions. To assist with
> the massive relief effort in the country, OPEN chapters in Boston,
> New York, Silicon Valley and Washington D.C. will be working
> closely with reputable charity organizations on the ground in
> Pakistan.
> You can help us in four areas:
>
> 1. $5M of emergency drugs to Pakistan:
> We have an urgent request to raise $25,000 to support the
> delivery of emergency drugs in Pakistan. One of OPEN Charter
> Members has arranged for the delivery of $5MM of emergency drugs
> from Americare. Americare works with LIFE US
> (
> the affected areas. LIFE US needs $25K ASAP to transport drugs
> from Islamabad to remote areas in Azad Kashmir and NWFP. I am
> please to inform you that OPEN-US (Boston, New York, Silicon
> Valley and Washington D.C.) have announced a contribution of $10
> K! We are $15K short and, would like to request you to make a
> donation as soon as possible.
>
> Please visit the following URL to make your donation for this
>
initiative:
> For alternate locations, please write to
>
> Please forward this message to your friends and co-workers.
>
> Thank you very much for your support.
>
> OPEN New York
> http://www.opennewyork.org
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