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Pervez Hoodbhoy October 13, 2005
#125 Posted by mechanical on January 15, 2006 11:30:35 am
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I am a person who merely have any interest in Physics. I am a Fine Art professional but your rational talk, your courage and sincerity, you command over social issues and problems made me your life time fan. You are above all of appraisals and comments. Love you.
I am a person who merely have any interest in Physics. I am a Fine Art professional but your rational talk, your courage and sincerity, you command over social issues and problems made me your life time fan. You are above all of appraisals and comments. Love you.
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#123 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on October 27, 2005 12:32:14 am
hahaha -- zahra J -- i think u have a problem reading -- i never said to you to subscribe or unsubscribe to any paper -- and btw i am 33 so didnt read the article , sorry
harry potter -- the only person`s whose pants come down with great frequency is arjun himself -- of course its another story that he is your mentor -- it makes sense
harry potter -- the only person`s whose pants come down with great frequency is arjun himself -- of course its another story that he is your mentor -- it makes sense
#124 Posted by alert on October 30, 2005 12:11:12 pm
Re: # 123
I am extremely disappointed after reading the posts of ZahraJ,....ZahraJ why are you so impressed by WSJ,..there is no need to suffer from inferiority complex sister!.....After all most of the Americans are absorbed in their own luxurious life styles,..and they are only interested in us due to their personal motives,....Americans don,t want to know about the real problems of Pakistani society,.....They give cash to Masters of Pakistan ,..as a political bribe,..and they don,,t care if ordinary citizens are getting any thing or not,..and if they are deprived and suffering,....we Pakistanis who live in North America always read Pakistani newspapers like Dawn and TheNews,...these Pakistani newspapers are providing wonderful information on internet...and due to these honest and straight forward journalists we are learning a lot,..and things are changing in our, rather stagnant and Mullah/feudal bitten society,.....
And this Harish,....his shameless talk is not worthy of a decent forum..his posts are not worth reading ,...and he must be ignored
I am extremely disappointed after reading the posts of ZahraJ,....ZahraJ why are you so impressed by WSJ,..there is no need to suffer from inferiority complex sister!.....After all most of the Americans are absorbed in their own luxurious life styles,..and they are only interested in us due to their personal motives,....Americans don,t want to know about the real problems of Pakistani society,.....They give cash to Masters of Pakistan ,..as a political bribe,..and they don,,t care if ordinary citizens are getting any thing or not,..and if they are deprived and suffering,....we Pakistanis who live in North America always read Pakistani newspapers like Dawn and TheNews,...these Pakistani newspapers are providing wonderful information on internet...and due to these honest and straight forward journalists we are learning a lot,..and things are changing in our, rather stagnant and Mullah/feudal bitten society,.....
And this Harish,....his shameless talk is not worthy of a decent forum..his posts are not worth reading ,...and he must be ignored
#122 Posted by ZahraJ on October 24, 2005 9:30:48 am
Omar - Do you mind reviewing your posts #97 and #100 - #104? Did you start your concerns with the editorial page? It is simply foolish to start picking fights over any publication. On the other hand, I won`t tolerate anyone telling me to subscribe or unsubscribe based on his biases. Please do consult someone on the definition of ``personal``. I recommend following the advice from your not-so-favorite publication. You have the prerogative to digest or ignore. Prepare for the future. Happy Reading!
Prevention
Aging Well
Scientists set out to fathom medical mysteries of older men
By KELLY GREENE
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
October 10, 2005;
Jed Diamond, a 61-year-old psychotherapist in Willits, Calif., showed no signs of depression when he and his wife filled out screening questionnaires 12 years ago as part of their effort to help their son with a drug problem.
His wife, however, scored high on the test, indicating she could be depressed. She ``got treated and, over six months or so, she was starting to feel better,`` Mr. Diamond recalls. But when his wife suggested that his snappish behavior might mean that he was depressed, too, he balked. ``I said, `I`m a therapist -- I`d know if I were depressed.` ``
Finally, after several years during which ``things were really stressful between us, I agreed to go and see somebody,`` Mr. Diamond says. ``And I started to wonder, maybe I and a lot of other men were experiencing depression in a different way. Maybe we`re measuring depression more accurately in women and not recognizing it in men.``
As a result, he designed a new depression test specifically for men -- and identified what he calls ``irritable male syndrome,`` adding up scientific studies that, taken together, suggest that many men go through changes as they grow older that are different -- in ways big and small -- than the changes women go through. And they involve changes that are both psychological and physical.
The problem, as Mr. Diamond`s experience shows, is that those changes in men sometimes go undetected or untreated. While scientists have turned their attention in recent years to more effectively recognizing and treating problems common to older women, researchers have just started to focus on the medical mysteries surrounding older men.
Rephrase That
One reason that male changes often go undetected is that men generally aren`t conditioned to get annual medical exams, as many women do with gynecologists. They often write off signs of change in their bodies or emotions as a normal part of aging.
When that happens, the result can be a grumpy old man -- or worse. Fifteen percent of the 60,622 Americans who killed themselves in 2001 were men over age 65, according to a recent analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. And most elderly suicide victims had been recently diagnosed with their first episode of depression, the CDC says.
In trying to better detect depression, Mr. Diamond decided that he needed to find a way to get men to open up about their emotional issues. So he came up with a list of questions different from those typically used to pinpoint depression because ``men may be depressed at higher rates than women, but [they] may express depression in different ways. That may be particularly true as we age.``
Indeed, a recent study by J. Douglas Bremner, an Emory University psychiatrist, tested a group of former depression patients by giving them a drink that blocked the brain`s ability to absorb serotonin, the neurotransmitter that lets us feel happy. The women cried and talked about their pain; the men typically didn`t want to talk and said they felt fine. Instead, they wanted to get away to a nearby bar.
Mr. Diamond says he replaced typical questions like, ``Are you sad? Do you cry more often? Are you feeling hopeless?`` with questions asking if, over the past month, the subject has felt more aggressive or irritable, has had trouble sleeping, or has ``over-consumed`` alcohol.
More Than the Mind
It`s not just men`s psychological issues that are starting to get some attention. Researchers also are trying to find better ways to recognize and deal with the physical ailments that affect older men.
The National Cancer Institute is currently trying to determine the value of certain screenings for prostate cancer. Scientists are following 38,350 men who started with no indication of cancer to see whether prostate-specific antigen, or PSA, screening and digital rectal exams decrease deaths due to prostate cancer. A high PSA concentration can indicate the existence of prostate cancer -- but the test doesn`t necessarily tell whether the cancer would be deadly. That means men with cancer that isn`t life-threatening could wind up undergoing procedures that might do more harm than good.
The National Institute on Aging, meanwhile, is gearing up for a large-scale trial on testosterone-replacement therapy. For the few men whose bodies make very little or no testosterone, such as men whose pituitary glands have been destroyed or whose testes have been damaged, supplements may help maintain strong muscles and bones, and also increase sex drive, the institute said in a recent statement. But more research is needed to determine the risks and benefits of testosterone therapy for older men with normal testosterone levels.
For men who have determined that they have psychological issues, treatment is varied.
Some take treatment into their own hands. Mike Love, a 50-year-old hospital worker in Rathdrum, Idaho, turned to antidepressants for about 10 years to help him get his anger toward his family in check. But he always worried that the drugs were doing more harm than good, he says. After reading about B-complex vitamins a few years ago, he started taking them instead, and feels that they have worked much better.
``Going into my 40s, I didn`t know what was going on inside my body,`` he says. ``I just felt like a lot of weird things were going on that I couldn`t quite explain. I was feeling uptight and depressed -- like there was some kind of chemical imbalance.``
Bob Gallagher, a 50-year-old program-administration worker at a nonprofit group in Bloomington, Ill., has found men`s retreats and a related weekly support group the most important parts of dealing with problems he experienced. In his former position as an insurance executive, he had taken on more work than he could handle -- and ended up having to leave his job.
The Value of Venting
``This [support] group...recognizes that there`s nothing wrong with going to a counselor or a psychiatrist for help,`` he says. ``If you hold in your emotions, you start having health problems and heart attacks. But if you release those emotions in a men`s group, it helps the man and your family. You don`t come home angry.``
John Upton, a 49-year-old filmmaker, turned to acupuncture after the stress of working with Romanian orphans 14 years ago sent him into a downward spiral in which he ``screwed up`` two marriages. He was opposed to taking antidepressants, so his condition largely went untreated.
Of middle-aged men dealing with depression and related problems, he says, ``It`s kind of a like a free fall where you feel like a kid who isn`t understood, isn`t heard. You seek to replace the things that are missing through externals.``
While filming a project about spinal-cord recovery, ``I was seeing people with needles in their heads`` and decided to try acupuncture, Mr. Upton says. ``It took three treatments, and I got my sense of well-being back. That`s when my turnaround really began.``
Prevention
Aging Well
Scientists set out to fathom medical mysteries of older men
By KELLY GREENE
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
October 10, 2005;
Jed Diamond, a 61-year-old psychotherapist in Willits, Calif., showed no signs of depression when he and his wife filled out screening questionnaires 12 years ago as part of their effort to help their son with a drug problem.
His wife, however, scored high on the test, indicating she could be depressed. She ``got treated and, over six months or so, she was starting to feel better,`` Mr. Diamond recalls. But when his wife suggested that his snappish behavior might mean that he was depressed, too, he balked. ``I said, `I`m a therapist -- I`d know if I were depressed.` ``
Finally, after several years during which ``things were really stressful between us, I agreed to go and see somebody,`` Mr. Diamond says. ``And I started to wonder, maybe I and a lot of other men were experiencing depression in a different way. Maybe we`re measuring depression more accurately in women and not recognizing it in men.``
As a result, he designed a new depression test specifically for men -- and identified what he calls ``irritable male syndrome,`` adding up scientific studies that, taken together, suggest that many men go through changes as they grow older that are different -- in ways big and small -- than the changes women go through. And they involve changes that are both psychological and physical.
The problem, as Mr. Diamond`s experience shows, is that those changes in men sometimes go undetected or untreated. While scientists have turned their attention in recent years to more effectively recognizing and treating problems common to older women, researchers have just started to focus on the medical mysteries surrounding older men.
Rephrase That
One reason that male changes often go undetected is that men generally aren`t conditioned to get annual medical exams, as many women do with gynecologists. They often write off signs of change in their bodies or emotions as a normal part of aging.
When that happens, the result can be a grumpy old man -- or worse. Fifteen percent of the 60,622 Americans who killed themselves in 2001 were men over age 65, according to a recent analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. And most elderly suicide victims had been recently diagnosed with their first episode of depression, the CDC says.
In trying to better detect depression, Mr. Diamond decided that he needed to find a way to get men to open up about their emotional issues. So he came up with a list of questions different from those typically used to pinpoint depression because ``men may be depressed at higher rates than women, but [they] may express depression in different ways. That may be particularly true as we age.``
Indeed, a recent study by J. Douglas Bremner, an Emory University psychiatrist, tested a group of former depression patients by giving them a drink that blocked the brain`s ability to absorb serotonin, the neurotransmitter that lets us feel happy. The women cried and talked about their pain; the men typically didn`t want to talk and said they felt fine. Instead, they wanted to get away to a nearby bar.
Mr. Diamond says he replaced typical questions like, ``Are you sad? Do you cry more often? Are you feeling hopeless?`` with questions asking if, over the past month, the subject has felt more aggressive or irritable, has had trouble sleeping, or has ``over-consumed`` alcohol.
More Than the Mind
It`s not just men`s psychological issues that are starting to get some attention. Researchers also are trying to find better ways to recognize and deal with the physical ailments that affect older men.
The National Cancer Institute is currently trying to determine the value of certain screenings for prostate cancer. Scientists are following 38,350 men who started with no indication of cancer to see whether prostate-specific antigen, or PSA, screening and digital rectal exams decrease deaths due to prostate cancer. A high PSA concentration can indicate the existence of prostate cancer -- but the test doesn`t necessarily tell whether the cancer would be deadly. That means men with cancer that isn`t life-threatening could wind up undergoing procedures that might do more harm than good.
The National Institute on Aging, meanwhile, is gearing up for a large-scale trial on testosterone-replacement therapy. For the few men whose bodies make very little or no testosterone, such as men whose pituitary glands have been destroyed or whose testes have been damaged, supplements may help maintain strong muscles and bones, and also increase sex drive, the institute said in a recent statement. But more research is needed to determine the risks and benefits of testosterone therapy for older men with normal testosterone levels.
For men who have determined that they have psychological issues, treatment is varied.
Some take treatment into their own hands. Mike Love, a 50-year-old hospital worker in Rathdrum, Idaho, turned to antidepressants for about 10 years to help him get his anger toward his family in check. But he always worried that the drugs were doing more harm than good, he says. After reading about B-complex vitamins a few years ago, he started taking them instead, and feels that they have worked much better.
``Going into my 40s, I didn`t know what was going on inside my body,`` he says. ``I just felt like a lot of weird things were going on that I couldn`t quite explain. I was feeling uptight and depressed -- like there was some kind of chemical imbalance.``
Bob Gallagher, a 50-year-old program-administration worker at a nonprofit group in Bloomington, Ill., has found men`s retreats and a related weekly support group the most important parts of dealing with problems he experienced. In his former position as an insurance executive, he had taken on more work than he could handle -- and ended up having to leave his job.
The Value of Venting
``This [support] group...recognizes that there`s nothing wrong with going to a counselor or a psychiatrist for help,`` he says. ``If you hold in your emotions, you start having health problems and heart attacks. But if you release those emotions in a men`s group, it helps the man and your family. You don`t come home angry.``
John Upton, a 49-year-old filmmaker, turned to acupuncture after the stress of working with Romanian orphans 14 years ago sent him into a downward spiral in which he ``screwed up`` two marriages. He was opposed to taking antidepressants, so his condition largely went untreated.
Of middle-aged men dealing with depression and related problems, he says, ``It`s kind of a like a free fall where you feel like a kid who isn`t understood, isn`t heard. You seek to replace the things that are missing through externals.``
While filming a project about spinal-cord recovery, ``I was seeing people with needles in their heads`` and decided to try acupuncture, Mr. Upton says. ``It took three treatments, and I got my sense of well-being back. That`s when my turnaround really began.``
#121 Posted by harish_hyd on October 24, 2005 2:13:43 am
#120 by omar_r_quraishi
[-- strange that you couldnt digest that and launched into a tirade of personal attacks]
Look who`s talking! Mullah Omar, caught with his pants down by arjun_m, is now alleging that other interactors are launching personal attacks on him. Go home to momma Mullah. Like the rag you work for, logic and honesty are not exactly your forte.
[-- strange that you couldnt digest that and launched into a tirade of personal attacks]
Look who`s talking! Mullah Omar, caught with his pants down by arjun_m, is now alleging that other interactors are launching personal attacks on him. Go home to momma Mullah. Like the rag you work for, logic and honesty are not exactly your forte.
#120 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on October 24, 2005 12:51:44 am
zahra -- for the record -- i am none of the sort -- but i really couldnt care what you thought of my writings or my views -- as far as the WSJ goes its a rightwing very conservative paper, editorial page wise -- strange that you couldnt digest that and launched into a tirade of personal attacks
#118 Posted by ZahraJ on October 22, 2005 12:02:56 pm
Omar:
Despite the fact that I have read some well put together efforts by you in the recent past, you are a rigid and close-minded nationalist with no comprehension of anything good, bad or ugly.
Beyond that, none of your bukwas is worth the time.
Your loss!
Despite the fact that I have read some well put together efforts by you in the recent past, you are a rigid and close-minded nationalist with no comprehension of anything good, bad or ugly.
Beyond that, none of your bukwas is worth the time.
Your loss!
#117 Posted by Pardesi on October 22, 2005 5:56:21 am
#113
Zahra, I agree 100%. This discussion is not worth the time.
Regards.
Zahra, I agree 100%. This discussion is not worth the time.
Regards.
#116 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on October 22, 2005 3:38:47 am
zahra jee -- u need to get a grip -- nowhere did i say that u shouldnt read your beloved WSJ or that i am imposing my views on you -- if anything shitheads like arjun jee and hairy potter jee seem to have made that their raison d`etre
#115 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on October 22, 2005 3:36:34 am
fukface said :
#109 by arjun_m on October 21, 2005 5:33am PT
#107 by omar_r_quraishi on October 21, 2005 2:20am PT
goatbrain: When Dawn prints a piece saying Ivan was divine retribution for Iraq, that`s the private view of Anjum Niaz(although it was on Dawn`s website)...
So going by your goatbrain logic, all the articles you don`t like in the WSJ are the individual views of the authors and in no way impugn the credibility of the newspaper itself....
no fukface -- just showed your ignorance doesnt it - the WSJ editorials (AS OPPOSED TO ARTICLES ON THE EDITORIAL PAGES), as cited by solomon, herman, et. al, are the newspaper itself talking -- which is certainly not what anjum niaz was doing -- and by the way her article was printed in DAWN MAGAZINE and not on Dawn`s Editorial pages --
-- zahra -- stop agreeing with pathological sociopaths becuase u only end up making a bigger fool of yourself -- and yes we know that u love the WSJ -- it shows dah ling -- also if you dislike dawn and cant read its `badly formatted site` that is your right -- no one`s going to force u to read anything --
pardesi beta your not excused for the intrusion -- however going by your point, it should also be the case that moronic NRIs and NRPs in the US should not be experts on the pakistani print media -- as for you reading the WSJ for 20 years and not NYT even for free well pardesi beta should i care about that really ? it has no relation to what is being debated here -- which is that newspapers everywhere carry controversial material -- in the case of the WSJ it seems even their editorials are highly debatable -- and since u think that ed herman is `some liberal professor` i can see where your coming from
#109 by arjun_m on October 21, 2005 5:33am PT
#107 by omar_r_quraishi on October 21, 2005 2:20am PT
goatbrain: When Dawn prints a piece saying Ivan was divine retribution for Iraq, that`s the private view of Anjum Niaz(although it was on Dawn`s website)...
So going by your goatbrain logic, all the articles you don`t like in the WSJ are the individual views of the authors and in no way impugn the credibility of the newspaper itself....
no fukface -- just showed your ignorance doesnt it - the WSJ editorials (AS OPPOSED TO ARTICLES ON THE EDITORIAL PAGES), as cited by solomon, herman, et. al, are the newspaper itself talking -- which is certainly not what anjum niaz was doing -- and by the way her article was printed in DAWN MAGAZINE and not on Dawn`s Editorial pages --
-- zahra -- stop agreeing with pathological sociopaths becuase u only end up making a bigger fool of yourself -- and yes we know that u love the WSJ -- it shows dah ling -- also if you dislike dawn and cant read its `badly formatted site` that is your right -- no one`s going to force u to read anything --
pardesi beta your not excused for the intrusion -- however going by your point, it should also be the case that moronic NRIs and NRPs in the US should not be experts on the pakistani print media -- as for you reading the WSJ for 20 years and not NYT even for free well pardesi beta should i care about that really ? it has no relation to what is being debated here -- which is that newspapers everywhere carry controversial material -- in the case of the WSJ it seems even their editorials are highly debatable -- and since u think that ed herman is `some liberal professor` i can see where your coming from
#113 Posted by ZahraJ on October 21, 2005 7:39:20 pm
Pardesi:
I am amazed at this guy`s nerve. How can he tell someone to unsubscribe certain subscription because his holiness thinks that is what people around the world should do? Who cares what he thinks?
I rarely flip through the poorly formatted text of online Dawn (with borrowed concepts from other publications). I would never go around telling others to stop reading Dawn because I do not like it. That would be silly. I have every right to express my likes and dislikes but I cannot impose them on others. This man is either drunk or out of his mind.
Please do not encourage him to continue any interaction with the loyal readers of WSJ. There is nothing to discuss. Discussions take place where people have substance to add and they know when to write and when to read/listen. Mr. Qureshi is not gifted with the said talent. He is an unpleasant and rude(jee this and jee that) chap who loves to pick fights to soothe his angry and disturbed ego. I have no interest in interacting with such kind.
Please feel free to further educate him on the good, bad and ugly facts of WSJ. I am sure you will have far more patience and tolerance for his tantrums.
Khuda Hafiz!
I am amazed at this guy`s nerve. How can he tell someone to unsubscribe certain subscription because his holiness thinks that is what people around the world should do? Who cares what he thinks?
I rarely flip through the poorly formatted text of online Dawn (with borrowed concepts from other publications). I would never go around telling others to stop reading Dawn because I do not like it. That would be silly. I have every right to express my likes and dislikes but I cannot impose them on others. This man is either drunk or out of his mind.
Please do not encourage him to continue any interaction with the loyal readers of WSJ. There is nothing to discuss. Discussions take place where people have substance to add and they know when to write and when to read/listen. Mr. Qureshi is not gifted with the said talent. He is an unpleasant and rude(jee this and jee that) chap who loves to pick fights to soothe his angry and disturbed ego. I have no interest in interacting with such kind.
Please feel free to further educate him on the good, bad and ugly facts of WSJ. I am sure you will have far more patience and tolerance for his tantrums.
Khuda Hafiz!
#111 Posted by Pardesi on October 21, 2005 6:34:37 pm
#108 Omar, sorry for intrusion.
I have been loyal fan of WSJ for over 20 years. I gladly pay for the on-line version while I will not pay a single cent for those liberal papers like NY Times. I agree that people living in US really may not know true conditions in India or Pakistan, but then it does not make you an expert either on what value WSJ adds to business people in USA or our preferences and values.
Quoting some worthless liberal professor or Judith Miller does not in anyway reduce our respect for this great paper.
Now please continue your dialogue with Zahra, Harish and Arjun.
#109 Posted by arjun_m on October 21, 2005 5:33:31 am
#107 by omar_r_quraishi on October 21, 2005 2:20am PT
goatbrain: When Dawn prints a piece saying Ivan was divine retribution for Iraq, that`s the private view of Anjum Niaz(although it was on Dawn`s website)...
So going by your goatbrain logic, all the articles you don`t like in the WSJ are the individual views of the authors and in no way impugn the credibility of the newspaper itself....
goatbrain: When Dawn prints a piece saying Ivan was divine retribution for Iraq, that`s the private view of Anjum Niaz(although it was on Dawn`s website)...
So going by your goatbrain logic, all the articles you don`t like in the WSJ are the individual views of the authors and in no way impugn the credibility of the newspaper itself....
#110 Posted by ZahraJ on October 21, 2005 7:24:29 am
Re: # 109
Arjun:
Excellent point! Since the said interactor attacked the Journal vs pointing out his likes or dislikes therefore his point has no weight. I love the Journal. I do think that the editorial section lacks the spirit. I hardly know anyone who subscribes to the Journal for its editorials.
Arjun:
Excellent point! Since the said interactor attacked the Journal vs pointing out his likes or dislikes therefore his point has no weight. I love the Journal. I do think that the editorial section lacks the spirit. I hardly know anyone who subscribes to the Journal for its editorials.
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