Bye Bye NAM, Hello Realpolitik!

re: posts # 263, 264
May be it is time for some calm thinking. I used to live in New Delhi before i migrated to US and i simply love that place. Used to live in an area called Karol Bagh and frequent Cannaught Place, Sarojini Nagar. Used to have a friend in Pahar Gang.
Terrorists seem to have tried for maximal human casualties this time. They did this during the Hindu festival of Diwali. One can think of no other reason than to provoke a feeling of religious hatred and trigger riots. IF the opposite happens, then the bombing would have no effect.
If the terrorists think by killing human beings in India, they will have any impact, they are wrong. That is a nation of more than a billion people. How many do they think they can kill?
I urge people on Chowk to be calm. Ranger may be right in what he is saying but then the way to eliminate such people from India would be to go after them individually and eliminate them. Do not hold the whole religion responsible for the misdeeds of some.
Sridhar

Delhi bombings. Who did it ?

Its obvious. Muslims from Delhi and UP. Living in and around Old Delhi. With technical guidance and support from ISI.

We have enemies in our own neighborhood. High time we realised this. Then we can think of ways to tackle this.

re: the Delhi bombings
This is going to be tricky. As clues are being gathered and pieced together, we would know who committed the heinous act. Is it Pakistan? Is it some other disgruntled group of Kashmiri militants? What was the purpose? Why in Delhi?
Things are kind of hazy right now. My personal opinion is Pakistan is not involved. It would be too stupid for Pak dictator to do anything when his own house is burning. India and Pak have agreed to open the LOC to Kashmiris. Has this caused some militants to be unhappy? One has to wait and see.
Sridhar

Re: # 262 rs
//..... It would be too stupid for Pak dictator to do anything when his own house is burning...//

Come on - does it really matter?..... I mean, the jihadis didn`t just drop from the sky - they have been manfactured deliberately to kill as many hinuds as possible......

So never mind the ``condolences``... or anything else... this ain`t going to stop until you really do what you need to do....... second guessing what pakis might be thinking is useless.....

It i well known to all those familiar with Delhi how the Jama Masjid area is a fertile recruitment ground for ISI........the folks there are more loyal to Pakistan than the Pakistanis themselves....

Re: # 261
I agree with you. Muslims in Jama Masjid area hate non Muslims, especially Sikhs. Try going to Chor Bazaar on sunday afternoon. God forbid if you try to bargain with any of the Muslim shopkeepers, they will make your life miserable. That is Fauji Sikhs travel in a group of 4-5. Sikh Regiment used to be based in Lal Kila till few years ago.

I always felt that Muslims living in Jama Masjid area were most unfriendly and uncilvilized people of Delhi. Drugs, SEX, and all other bad elements of society can found in that area.

However, Muslims of Nizammudin and Shahdara are more cultured and civilized.

Hamid, Romair etc....you people are deluded if you think we need character certificates from pukis. Get lost.

The bombing took place in busy markets surrounding Cannaught place - Sarojini nagar , Paharganj , Gole Market. Places I have visited on many occasions in the past as a kid. These markets are basically filled with Punjabis - both sikh and hindus and a smattering of visitors. A huge catchment area for BJP.

Funny how the bomb blasts , all four of them should take place here...and not in busy markets areas where muslim population is higher , like Old Delhi for instance. No blasts ever takes place there.

What is also interesting is the reaction of so-called `Indian` muslims like Hindvi. The RSS did it , they say , whenever such things happen in India. When it happens in the West - either the CIA or the Zionists did it.

Ref dost-mittar #250

[Thanks both for your vote of confidence and sympathy for the Delhi blasts.]

DM-ji, would you care to comment on why the terrorists chose Delhi instead of Ahmedabad for their bombs?

I would like an explanation from you or other self-hating, hand-wringing Hindus.

Minorities should be made to feel that they are living in India under the sufferance of Hindus. If they understand that, you wouldn`t have this kind of crap or the business of conversions.

Have you noticed that while we had the Assembly of God, Daughters of Mary Immaculate, The TMSSS, the PMSSS, etc., active in tsunami relief, not one has shown up in Jammu & Kashmir. One wonders what would be the reaction of the Muslims to someone bearing a blanket in one hand a Bible in another.

The day after the earthquake, we had a suicide bomber in Srinagar. Time to fence off the Kashmir border, electrify the fence, sow several million landmines and tell Mushy & Co to shove their humanitarian concerns for Kashmiris in a place where the light doesn`t shine.... unless there is a proctologist involved. Or perhaps a mullah.

Pakistan denounces New Delhi bombings as ``terrorism``

ISLAMABAD, Oct 29 (AFP) Pakistan strongly condemned Saturday`s bombings in Indian capital New Delhi as a ``criminal act of terrorism,`` a foreign ministry statement said. ``Pakistan strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New Delhi, which have resulted in the loss of a number of innocent lives,`` the statement said. ``The people and government of Pakistan are shocked at this barbaric act and express deep sympathy with the families of the victims,`` it said. Islamabad also called for a thorough investigation to punish the culprits. ``We hope that a thorough investigation will be carried out and the perpetrators of this act of terrorism will be brought to justice.`` At least 50 people were killed Saturday in serial blasts in New Delhi, India`s home minister and senior government officials said.

dost-mittar,

``I do not consider self-determination as a basic human right``........ what would you say to the people of estonia, latvia, lithuania, slovenia, e. timor, palestine, s. africa, india, algeria, etc, etc ............. what are the advantages of keeping people together when they don`t want to ?....... are you saying that the folks in smaller states like luxembourg, monaco, singapore and dubai are less happy than the poor souls sleeping on the sidewalk in calcutta or new york ?.............. in the end isn`t it all about the welfare of the individual ? ........... large nation states with territorial ambitions , like empires, are a designed to satisfy the huge ego of megalomaniacs .........

Captain Romair, Where did you get your 1% theory?
Please educate us low-IQ Chowkies with your wisdom.
We are waiting impatiently.

Regarding Delhi blasts a good perspective I got from bbcnews..

It may be worth noting that the time when these blasts happened roughly coincides with sunset in Delhi, the time for Muslims to break their Ramadan fast. So, if these were Muslim terrorists, they may have calculated that they will miss conservative Muslims who would be at home to break their fasts instead of shopping in the markets.
Nadeem Jamali, Saskatoon, Canada


My heartfelt condolences to the victims..

Romair, hamidm:

Thanks both for your vote of confidence and sympathy for the Delhi blasts. As far as I know, none of my close friends and relatives has been hurt but too many of my friends and relatives live close to the area of incidents and I hope that they are all okay.

And Romair, I do care for human rights in Kashmir; of course, as you know I do not consider self-determination as a basic human right.

Re: # 250

Dost-mittar

Good article but a little out of tune with the times. I think India was right making a u-turn with regard to Iran with Yazdi in saddle there. They had perhaps foreseen which way the wind was blowing in Iran as evidenced by the latest hate statement of Yazdi about Israel. It is perhaps the time for humanity to get united against the hate politics and killings.

Now look at Kashmiries who call themselves Muslims( They are actually terrorists having no nationality or religion ) and demand human rights through the barrel of the gun exclusively for the muslims by killing human beings, including muslims, indicriminately. Is it not paradoxical for anti-humans to call for human rights? I say first be human and then call for any human rights from humans. Hatred will beget only hatred and terrorism will be met by terrorism. I think it is time to have some world human organization instead of the so called `United (?)Nations` as the concept of political self determination as it has come to be exploited by the terrorists is obviously contradictory to the human rights.

Hamidm mian #247 :``..... romair, of course, is from another planet and cannot be held to human standards ........``

Is this a compliment or an insult?..........You are starting to get really confusing.........Previously, it was quite clear when the you insulted. And you never complemented. Now every now and then, you compliment, and when you insult, it is done in a complicated manner.........I prefer your old way........It required less celeberal analysis from my side.....I already have my hands full trying to play Luke Skywalker to the two resident relatively sane Indians - Anil and Dost - and bring them back from the Dark side. For I can still sense the Good in them. The Force is still strong in them......The last thing I need is to start figuring you out also......

So could I request you to go back to the golden days of yore. When spring was in the air, and abuse was regular on Chowk. When men were men, and women were women. When I read a comment from you, I knew right away what it meant........