Bye Bye NAM, Hello Realpolitik!

Re: # 47

Hindvi:

``Netizen is the same guy who was upset by the campaign of secular indians to stop US corporates from funding hate via the VHP`s front organisations.

He said alternative means of funding the RSS would know have to be found``


So ????

urstruly: God has also gifted mankind with sunshine and wind. And both have the virtue of being replenishable (for another 4 billion years) and non-polluting.

European countries are already trying to tap into it, with Denmark in the lead I think, projecting 40% of its energy needs by 2010 (I am writing from what I recall reading in a brochure when visiting that country a few years ago) to be met by windmills which you can see even today all over the Danish countryside, and Germany close beind. The US too has windmill farms and there is plenty of pressure to follow Europe`s lead in this.

Sunlight is another example, yielding a potentially tremendous about of energy. In Pakistan, a friend of mine has installed solar panels on his rooftop to meet part of his energy needs (and God has not yet bothered to send him a power bill).

So, there are these other options that you are going to see more and more of in future. But trust our desi braaderaan to aim for where the advanced countries used to aim for a hundred years ago.

Re: # 37
Tahmed: Kithey AjjKal?

UP very boring..

Urstruly #43: `` wont quote any example from European countries but just your country Canada only. Canada is the country that can meet its 100% energy requirements thru nuclear power and even then it is left with surplus electricity``

Thanks for the info......I agree that access to nuclear technology is any country`s God-given right. In fact, I think access to nuclear weapons is also, unless there is a ban on all countries..........This was the argument used by India (and Pakistan) historically.........

To me, 100% energy requirements include things like electricity to light my light-bulbs, fuel to drive my car, gas to heat my house, energy to run my factories, fuel to grow my transportation systems, etc.

How can all of this be met 100% by nuclear energy. I don`t think it is being met 100% in Canada. It would require a complete re-construction of various entities that use energy. For example, the automotive industry will have to be revamped to create cars that can run on nuclear fuel. As will the transportation industry, the manufacturing plants etc.

If, however, nuclear energy is a 100% replacement, then why is the price of oil going through the roof? And why are countries fighting over gas and oil fields?

Re: # 47

hindvi:

HP knows me for sometime. I am sure he knows by now that I am a rightwinger, isn`t HP?

Anyway, if the ``secular`` indians think that by licking their americans masters they can stop funding for the vanvasi programme then they are mistaken. why don`t you fight these ``hate-programmes`` in india itself. Go tell your muslim-hugging congress/commies to stop the vanvasi programmes.

As for India, I am surprised that there has been no public debate about investing in alternative energy sources rather than merely bollywoodizing western economies. After all, sunshine falls freely and directly on India, and there is no need to kow-tow to Iran or to pay us hated Pakis for the pipeline. And the wind blows freely across these lands.

But as I said. Trust the desi mind to not think for itself. and slavishly to aim for where the west used to aim for in the past.

france gets over 75 percent of its electricity from nuclear power. ............it is the world`s largest electricity exporter...............

delhiwala: i am very much around on chowk sir. maybe the frequency is less: thora jiyaa kam parna pai gya ai. ;-)

hamidm: never do what the french do. treat this as a golden rule. hitler ignored this rule (despite my sincere advice to him) when he attacked russia and look what happened to him!!

#39 by Romair on October 27, 2005 10:59am PT


Kindly explain what India is planning to conquer in space


India is trying to catch up with Pakistan..which el-presidente told us is ahead of India in space technology because they rented a used hughes satellite that only works for part of the year....

dont flatter urself ur no right winger, arjunm might qualify for that, u are a genocide proponent.

Re: # 54

tahmed:

it needs r&d to come up with new technologies. unless and until the gov or private sector invests in those fields, what can you expect? thats the reason the third world remains third world for a long time.

india does generate wind-energy. i don`t have a lot of detail though.

``Dost mittar is working feverishly to portray a rift in the Congress admin. Now where his talking points are coming from?

Straight from the RSS HQ or from the BJP ideologues?
``

HP

Dude, you seem to have some sort of a paranoia about the RSS and the BJP. The abive view was also vocalized by Praful Bidwai, a leftist. Yes, there is a split within Congress between Nnehruvian ideologues and pragmatic thinkers. However, this split is as old as the Republic of India and was played out in the Nehru-Patel divide, the Indira-Morarji divide etc.

Even Narasimha Rao, the person credited with economic reforms, was a socialist in his thinking and was pushed to reforms by a BoP crisis. PV became the darling of the mddle class but he was always apologetic about his role in reforms; taking a defensive posture in his subsequent rivalry with the Gandhi family.

Manmohan Singh has been accused of being a neo-liberal by the Iindian left. The fact that they still support is because they consider the BJP to be worse. OTOH, there is a split between RSS and BJP in the views of globalization and pro-Americanism. RSS is closer to Left in restraining the extent of globalization and they use Swadeshi Jagran Manch
(RSS trade union) to pressure the BJP in economic reforms.

Romair;

Like everything else electricity has its limits too. Off course, You cannot drive an automobile with electric power delivered thru a cable yet. But most of the energy needs, where mobility acn be an issue, can be met thru alternative methods eg fuel cells, hybrid engines, and solar power. In my last trip to Pakistan I noticed that China is marketing electric motorbikes in Pakistan. I don`t think that it is impossible to replace fossil fuel altogether in near future. But transition has to be made now. It will take India decades to build nuclear facilities to power their needs but at least they have taken the first steps. Where do we stand?

Re: # 59


hindvi,

hahahaha...whatever

BTW, i didn`t see you for a long time, especially after the trashing you got in the kashmir board. do you remember your logic about `` rich indians getting lazy and janbaaz jihadis winning kashmir....``

we needed your/``minority`` support for gandhis secularism when manto and family was maligning him.

get well/recover soon.

#43 by Urstruly on October 27, 2005 11:15am PT


Nuclear power is our Lord`s gift to humanity.


If I did believe in god, i`d say opposable thumbs and the ability to think would be the real gift...OTOH, seeing how many people lack the later, that might go against a value system based on a just and equitable almighty....