A Place Like No Other?

Mirmir Sahib, Your essay got increasingly nauseating after the 2nd paragraph. Do you even have a clue how much someone will pay to live in Harlem???? Hello? This is 22nd century and not the 1960 in which you seem to be living. A Jew is the Mayor, and more than half of the Bombers are niggers, and so are roughly 62.87 % of Mets, while the niggers only make up about 25% of the NYC population.

The fact that you wrote an ass backward essay about the USA and not about New Zealand is a testimonial enough that the experiment has been successful enough to give an awakening call to the ones not bright enough to figure out their own stupidness. Good going. No wonder that you felt a need to mention your worldly experience. I am sure you wished you lived in Paris or in Sana Yemen. Yemen by the way is near the Camel Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, where Allah lives.

Next time you wana write about the drug cartels in Columbia, please make sure you are not living in or near Bogota.

Dear mirmir

[If you love someone, if you truly LOVE someone, you recognize it when they`re ill, and you do whatever you can to see that they get better.]

I know that you are sick. Go get help before it is too left. What rubbish thoughts, right from some commie handout.

Nevertheless,

Respectfully submitted,

#2
Dear Sir,
To write a rude response to someone`s article and then end it with a ``respectful`` salutation at the end is inauthentic. May I suggest ``sincerely`` as that is what the intention is.
Sincerely,
Subroto

Re: # 3

Response to Subroto`s post:

This is how I will explain my posts.

Usually, I submit my post to the editor of Chowk, and that is why I think it is appropriate to submit respectfully. However, to draw attention to the person about his post, I usually identify him by name/handle name. Since this is not a letter written directly to that person I am addressing to I don`t think sincerely works. I am trying to create a sense of moderator in between my post and the interactor that I am addressing to. I am sorry that this has created a lot of confusion.

However, I hope this new style of mine should clarify things better.

Respectfully submitted,

Ah! However I don`t believe posts go through an edit review/process. The posting is instaneous and can be addressed to the writer/interactor. THis provides for a more personal interaction. The moderation process does not seem to be working anyway otherwise the recent spate of abusive posts would have got filtered out.

Re: # 5

Subroto Sahib,, did you mean to say that the recent spate of obtuse essays would have gotten filtered thru? By the way the new model is that different people define what is “abusive” differently.

Submitted without pretentiousness

America is the triumph of modernity! Let`s see though for how long it remains so.

What`s behind this unhealthy fascination with the nightmare called perfection?

I don`t understanbd this why is every Indian complaining and for what? Talking about Hindus and Hindu religion is racism and talking about Hindu girls is racism why is that so?

I mean Hindu girls are as pretty as Christian or muslim girls. You can have sex with any and why would it bother Indians when Hindu girls like Pakistanis more than the ugly ducklings from South India.

So if this is the new low on chowk so be it...Don`t like it, go somewher else... why bitch about it ... cry babies!

I don`t understanbd this why is every Indian complaining and for what? Talking about Hindus and Hindu religion is racism and talking about Hindu girls is racism why is that so?

I mean Hindu girls are as pretty as Christian or muslim girls. You can have sex with any and why would it bother Indians when Hindu girls like Pakistanis more than the ugly ducklings from South India.

So if this is the new low on chowk so be it...Don`t like it, go somewher else... why bitch about it ... cry babies!

Dear author,

OFcourse the US is an imperfect country with plenty of skeletons in its history & the present!!

. May I ask you if there is a PERFECT country?. The countries you cite, Australia & Canada have their own skeltons.

There is no country, IMHO, that is more self critical, introspective & open than the US. The US will humiliate its own commander-in-chief (& itself) in the eyes of the world...if the commander-in-chief even THINKS about messing with the law ..or..with the Constitution. As far as I`m concerned; events like Watergate ,Monica Lewinski, Rodney King are the US`s greatest strenght.

Yes, yes, every American...including (& especially immigrants) can gripe about what isnt right about America. But think of some of these undeniable facts...

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every immigrant

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from a phd who is applying for a green card..to an illegal Mexican immigrant (who will cross the border inspite of great personal risk)...to a Haitian refugee knows that there is prejudice, an unofficial ``class`` system int the US...

yet they come here...at great personal risk....if they are caught & deported...they come back AGAIN!!
--I dont think its just the allure of money that attracts human beings to the US...there is something more innate than that...its a basic human desire that if he/she is given half a chance, the US gives back 10 times more than what you put in.

In the 25 yrs of being in the US, I have experienced subtle prejudice & I know this society is far from perfect... & I know that justice & law isnt the same thing. But American law tries to be as just as possible.

Ultimately, human beings vote with their feet....& its not just money...otherwise the US hating dukkars on Chowk would have hi-tailed it to Saudi.

#10 by the_patriot

Nice try whosoever you are..Copying my posts as yours... I am glad though you agree with my point or why would you paste my posts under your name...
Hindu girls are fair game...like any other girl. You go after the ones you like..thats how this world works..

Copy paste more of my posts...you love them don`t you?

Re: # 12

ha ha HP dude, I didn`t know it was ur post. I posted my own post but somehow ur post got posted. You must have been online posting at the same time too.

Theres something not quite rite with chowk these days. I think theyre upgrading or something. I`ve also a noticed a number of other problems here including missing titles for articles and inaccessible ones.

I hope the Chowk staff fix these soon.

I`m sorry, what was this article about? Was it that the US is not the greatest place to live? Or that those of us living in the US need to re-examine the country?

In either case, this broad strokes approach made it unintentionally comic. It`s the same as if we took either some poor starving village from the subcontinet to show how horribly bad things are or some multi-billionaire (like Premji or Murthy) as how rich people are. These are not typical. They are outlying cases.

Yes, poor black people (or any minority) in the US have issues. Yet, holistically, it is a country that has enacted laws and enforced them and has done quite a bit of self analysis. But yes, it has also remained racist and oblivious and stupid. There has been undeniable progress and there also undeniably things still left to be done.

Yes. there are obscenely rich people here but they exist in other countries too. In India, in Pakistan and yes, even in Mexico. They may not be as rich as Gates but then no one is as rich as he is. But it is equally heart rending to see a kid in rags next to a Bentley at an intersection in Mexico City as it is anywhere else in the world. And there are little homeless kids working at chai shops in India. There are child prostitutes in Thailand. Unimaginable poverty in parts of Africa. All that says is there is a lot left to do to help the poor the world over.

I find it rather childish to think in terms of ``best this`` and ``best that.`` So I am not going to argue with your assertion that the US is not the best country. Of course it`s not...because that measure does not exist. Each country has its strengths and weaknesses and no one but the most rabid jingoists will assert that their country is the best. Best of what?

As far as the plight of poor people in general...that sucks everywhere. So, will a poor native Indian man in Mexico get a kidney before a rich, white Mexican person? Or even at the same time? Do poor people anywhere get the same medical care as well off people? All that proves is that being poor is injurious to your health. The poor in America are not alone in their plight.

The same goes for the legal system. The richer and more connected you are in any country, the easier is it for you to play the system.

Saying the US as a whole worships wealth and power is like saying that the whole of Mexico worships crossing the Rio Grande to come here. Or that India worships the burning of women. And Pakistan worships raping them. This are huge stereotypes. Insulting blanket statements. There are all kinds of people in the US. Some love money. Some don`t. Others live in communes. Others are poor. And most of us work, pay our bills, live in our homes and are grateful for what we have.

Yes, it is a capitalistic country. And there are inherent problems with that system (just as there are with any other system). I`d like to see some well thought out, well researched article on that...not this knee jerk, stereotype and cliche ridden (at least the author acknowledged that part) piece that tells us nothing of any substance.

I wan`t to put my opinion on these points

1. America being mainly a multicultural society is prone to such remarks and slurs of racism or discrimination.There will always be misunderstandings and conspiracy theories regarding ehtnicities or communities like Italians running the mafias or Blacks doing nothin but rap music drugs or looting.Thinking positively is a healthy human trait.Why not think of the Al Pacinos, De Niros, Armani, Gucci, Martin Luther King or Maya Angelou etc.
You are giving justification to the statement that ``all rich people are blood suckers of the poor and the poor have the divine right to share their wealth``.Typical beggary in disguise or what you call the ``Aid`` to the poor portraying the rich countries as colonial looters or plunderers of the poor nations.

2. Linking poverty with the terrorrism is like giving a ``license to kill`` to all the poors of the world that you are free to kill anyone whom you think is responsible for your miseries or lash out your hatred on them, thus taking back the civilised societies to the days of Tribal or clan based warfare.The killing of innocent people due to whatever crooked or twisted ideology one may have is simply a crime against humanity and must be condemned at all levels humanitarian or political.This modern day world of ours have become so much brutalised and violent that we have to seriously restore the dignity of human life.In thirld world societies whether African, Latin American or Asian people are dying by hundreds and thousands as a result of wars or ethnic cleansings but who is to blame for this? Rich countries or the sleeping mass conscience of their people.To suffer injustice silently and not raising your voice is a bigger crime than the injustice itself.The people will have to choose that will they submit to the ``I`` of the dictators or take charge of their own destinies by rising to the ``we`` the people.America may be accused of the ``crimes`` you have mentioned but it has always held its promise of freedom,equality and justice for all.To what extent the individuals benefit from it is their own effort and fate.

3. The strong and exemplary American political system is matchless as far as democratic traditions and values are concerned.It has proved its effectiveness and welfare of the people over decades.America has always been dragged into the war be it the pearl harbor or 9/11 otherwise an average American is a jolly, decent and God fearing fellow.I`ll say that she is suffering from the sibling jealousy of ugly ducklings of our global family,simple as that.You can put that in whatever political masquerade or theory you want.

Freeeeeeeeedommmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Nanna munna rahii huun,desh ka sipahi hun

I dont know why the early interactors digressed so much. The simple point of the article, in my opinion, is that the US is lacking in many areas where other western countries are not. Such as medical care, jobs and justice to the poor ethnic minorities.

I would only like to state that the US has a much bigger population than any other western country and the continuous stream of immigrants makes it a lot harder for the gov. to focus on any one particular problem.

The anomalies will always be there. No question about that. There is no utopia on this earth. But we should all realize that even with such a huge, ever increasing, population, the gov is doing a great job in providing a safe, prosperous and largely prejudice-free environment to its citizens.