Saima Shah November 7, 2005
#813 Posted by haideri on November 10, 2005 2:00:17 pm
Re: # 812
baba arjun,
I am not a street university graduate like most of you CCs. I am raised in USA.
haideri
baba arjun,
I am not a street university graduate like most of you CCs. I am raised in USA.
haideri
#812 Posted by arjun_m on November 10, 2005 1:51:05 pm
#810 by haideri on November 10, 2005 1:33pm PT
babu jee, it is easier than you think.
Not for pakis...
Let`s see you walk the walk a little...How about finding my personal information?
babu jee, it is easier than you think.
Not for pakis...
Let`s see you walk the walk a little...How about finding my personal information?
#811 Posted by jang on November 10, 2005 1:38:37 pm
#808 with the full might of texas congressional representation behind, its a trivial task to report you for attacking behramjis (and therefore pakistans) H&D ;-)
#810 Posted by haideri on November 10, 2005 1:33:53 pm
Re: # 808
``lol ... do you really think you can locate folks on the net ``
babu jee, it is easier than you think.
haideri
``lol ... do you really think you can locate folks on the net ``
babu jee, it is easier than you think.
haideri
#809 Posted by jang on November 10, 2005 1:28:39 pm
#804
behramji,
Congratulation for the new pakistan. The old pakistan (mey it RIP) was well documented in Pakistaniyat text-books. How will the new pakistan differ? thriving, modern are not all that descriptive words..a good starting point may be take the pakistaniyat text-book and point out the difference or changes. there are other books ....but let us deal with simpler things.
behramji,
Congratulation for the new pakistan. The old pakistan (mey it RIP) was well documented in Pakistaniyat text-books. How will the new pakistan differ? thriving, modern are not all that descriptive words..a good starting point may be take the pakistaniyat text-book and point out the difference or changes. there are other books ....but let us deal with simpler things.
#808 Posted by bbabu on November 10, 2005 1:25:05 pm
behram1 #725
`` Dear Friends of New Pakistan,
We should be able to expose all those on H1-B visa who spread hate on the Internet to their employers. Those who use company resources to spread hatred amongst people. Please provide me with any and all help by finding their handles, their names, and their addresses, and their places of work. I am capable, I am able, and I am willing to expose these hate mongers to the authorities.
I, also, would request, Pakistani columnists to investigate and identify these individuals and report it in their newspapers about their work habits. We should not and must tolerate hate mongers regardless who they are and where they are from.
Respectfully submitted, ``
lol ... do you really think you can locate folks on the net
#807 Posted by Raw_Dust on November 10, 2005 1:23:35 pm
``West Pakistan was fabricated as a province to give Paki Punjoos parity with the Bengalis in East Pak. ``
that was like Jinnah asking for parity in Cabinet Mission for unequal components of the indian electorate so this could be taken as just extending founding-father`s immense wisdom within Pakistan.
otoh,
Ayub`s one unit was pretty much giving occupation to establishment which was mostly land-owning class with Army engineering the occupation throughout the country and having the final say. Punjabi is a gross oversimplification, imo.
that was like Jinnah asking for parity in Cabinet Mission for unequal components of the indian electorate so this could be taken as just extending founding-father`s immense wisdom within Pakistan.
otoh,
Ayub`s one unit was pretty much giving occupation to establishment which was mostly land-owning class with Army engineering the occupation throughout the country and having the final say. Punjabi is a gross oversimplification, imo.
#805 Posted by arjun_m on November 10, 2005 1:20:59 pm
#774 by soysauce on November 10, 2005 11:49am PT
You`ve hit it on the head...
Pakis are all talk and no action...They may talk the talk on the internet but what happens in real life?
They sneaked up on Kargil...Then when India counter-attacked, they tucked their tails between their legs and ran away...all the tough talk was abandoned with the bodies of their soldiers...
After 9/11, the pakis I know told me they now had Uncle Sam`s wind in their sails and it`s just a matter of time before they got the US to lean on India to hand over Indian Kashmir...I TOLD them they`d be profiled and be targets just because they were pakis...they found out the truth the hard way..
A fairfax county cop pulled over a few pakis in a car...he ran immigration checks on all of them..some of them had some small violations and were deported..People living in Northern Virginia know how unlikely it is for the cops here to pull an immigration check on anyone...that treatment was reserved for pakis..
It`s a national disease tho...mushy thinks taking Indian Kashmir from India is as easy as taking over the PM`s palace..
You`ve hit it on the head...
Pakis are all talk and no action...They may talk the talk on the internet but what happens in real life?
They sneaked up on Kargil...Then when India counter-attacked, they tucked their tails between their legs and ran away...all the tough talk was abandoned with the bodies of their soldiers...
After 9/11, the pakis I know told me they now had Uncle Sam`s wind in their sails and it`s just a matter of time before they got the US to lean on India to hand over Indian Kashmir...I TOLD them they`d be profiled and be targets just because they were pakis...they found out the truth the hard way..
A fairfax county cop pulled over a few pakis in a car...he ran immigration checks on all of them..some of them had some small violations and were deported..People living in Northern Virginia know how unlikely it is for the cops here to pull an immigration check on anyone...that treatment was reserved for pakis..
It`s a national disease tho...mushy thinks taking Indian Kashmir from India is as easy as taking over the PM`s palace..
#804 Posted by Behram1 on November 10, 2005 1:18:54 pm
Re: # 785
Dear Salim_Chauhan Sahib,
Thank you for a cogent post.
As part of my young adulthood at NED University I used to have long discussions with Altaf Hussain. He may remember me. I also had taken a class with Benazir Bhutto, when she used to be called Pinky... I briefly worked for Kamal Azfar, as well....I was involved with National Organization of Progressive Students (NOPS)...whose head was Senator Reza Rabbani.
All during my lifetime, never once did I consider that Pakistan was formed erroneously. In my opinion, it was not a mistake. I do however, feel your pain and frustration.
I do not agree with your ``Reverse the curse``. Whatever happened 60 years ago...happened and we all have to live with it. I do, however, believe in harmony and peace and love between neighbors.
All my life I have been an underdog and I do empathize with the feelings of an underdog. That is why in my election I won, handily beating a guy from Punjab... I got the largest support from my Balochi friends, some of them were from the Bugti family, with my Pathan friends, with the Sindhi friends, all from the suppressed people of Pakistan.
The hate that has been permeating in the society need to come to a stop. And I thought that the only place that it could happen would be at this so-called intellectual site. Heck, these people are supposed to be the intellectual class of South Asia.
And just look at what is happening here, we are getting into the sugar cane business.
Pakistani PM that illustrious Shaukat Aziz may not realize that sugar cane is definitely a business that Pakistan and India should both concentrate on. Indians have a lot of entry points for Pakistanis to deliver.
I agree with you whole heartedly when you say....[The last thing that Muslims (and Parsis) need is enmity with Hindus. It just doesn`t make any sense.]
I disagree with you only partially, when you note....[ Hindus have not taken territory that belonged to Muslims.]....Hyderabad Deccan was supposed to be an independent country but was grabbed after independence.
Yet, I say... let bygones be bygones....
[Even in Kashmir, there is an elected government with a Muslim Chief Minister.] I am not so sure about this particular item....For any authenticity to come, we must have a free and fair refrendum as promised by India.
Now, I do understand that it would be impossible to figure out who the heck has a right to vote....So, OK...I`ll remain undecided on this issue.
[It would have made a lot of sense to try to live in one country as one people and common interests of peace, prosperity, success, and human development.]....Yes, agreed...we all have perfect hind sight....could`ve, should`ve, etc.
But, the reality is for a New Pakistan to be born again. A thriving Pakistan. A stable Pakistan. A modern Pakisatn. All of this is absolutely within the reach of Pakistanis, and it is achieveable.
Respectfully submitted,
Dear Salim_Chauhan Sahib,
Thank you for a cogent post.
As part of my young adulthood at NED University I used to have long discussions with Altaf Hussain. He may remember me. I also had taken a class with Benazir Bhutto, when she used to be called Pinky... I briefly worked for Kamal Azfar, as well....I was involved with National Organization of Progressive Students (NOPS)...whose head was Senator Reza Rabbani.
All during my lifetime, never once did I consider that Pakistan was formed erroneously. In my opinion, it was not a mistake. I do however, feel your pain and frustration.
I do not agree with your ``Reverse the curse``. Whatever happened 60 years ago...happened and we all have to live with it. I do, however, believe in harmony and peace and love between neighbors.
All my life I have been an underdog and I do empathize with the feelings of an underdog. That is why in my election I won, handily beating a guy from Punjab... I got the largest support from my Balochi friends, some of them were from the Bugti family, with my Pathan friends, with the Sindhi friends, all from the suppressed people of Pakistan.
The hate that has been permeating in the society need to come to a stop. And I thought that the only place that it could happen would be at this so-called intellectual site. Heck, these people are supposed to be the intellectual class of South Asia.
And just look at what is happening here, we are getting into the sugar cane business.
Pakistani PM that illustrious Shaukat Aziz may not realize that sugar cane is definitely a business that Pakistan and India should both concentrate on. Indians have a lot of entry points for Pakistanis to deliver.
I agree with you whole heartedly when you say....[The last thing that Muslims (and Parsis) need is enmity with Hindus. It just doesn`t make any sense.]
I disagree with you only partially, when you note....[ Hindus have not taken territory that belonged to Muslims.]....Hyderabad Deccan was supposed to be an independent country but was grabbed after independence.
Yet, I say... let bygones be bygones....
[Even in Kashmir, there is an elected government with a Muslim Chief Minister.] I am not so sure about this particular item....For any authenticity to come, we must have a free and fair refrendum as promised by India.
Now, I do understand that it would be impossible to figure out who the heck has a right to vote....So, OK...I`ll remain undecided on this issue.
[It would have made a lot of sense to try to live in one country as one people and common interests of peace, prosperity, success, and human development.]....Yes, agreed...we all have perfect hind sight....could`ve, should`ve, etc.
But, the reality is for a New Pakistan to be born again. A thriving Pakistan. A stable Pakistan. A modern Pakisatn. All of this is absolutely within the reach of Pakistanis, and it is achieveable.
Respectfully submitted,
#803 Posted by Godot on November 10, 2005 1:11:33 pm
Re: # 800
Mohar
``Besides - Mr G`s daughter may like it....you know, a Suntan di*k in a Dhoti .... that`s as exotic as it gets``
And then you ask why we support Behram sticking those sugarcanes up your dhoti and anal rape your daughters?
Mohar
``Besides - Mr G`s daughter may like it....you know, a Suntan di*k in a Dhoti .... that`s as exotic as it gets``
And then you ask why we support Behram sticking those sugarcanes up your dhoti and anal rape your daughters?
#802 Posted by Raw_Dust on November 10, 2005 1:08:36 pm
#786 (peace be upon your number) .. he is talking about the east-west bengal border.
LOL.
LOL.
#801 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 10, 2005 1:05:34 pm
#799, godot {``The Punjabis, perhaps unfortunately for Pakistan, constitute the majority ethnic group and majority of Pakistan population. Sikhs are a tiny minority in India.``}
Godot dost-e-man,
That was very clever of you to connect the Sikh aspect to the majority/minority logic. :)
I used Sikhs as an example, because they may be disproportionately represented in the Indian military and yet do not dominate India. Paki Punjoos were not the majority from 1947 to 1971, yet they dominated even then. In fact, West Pakistan was fabricated as a province to give Paki Punjoos parity with the Bengalis in East Pak.
To succeed politically Pakistan needs:
Secularism
Real autonomy for provinces
Local control over taxes, police, and use of military force in the province,
Creation of several smaller provinces as in India to allow more self-rule (e.g. divide Punjab into four, Sindh into two, Baluchistan into two, and NWFP into three)
Elimination of quotas or honest enforcement of quotas, but not this sifarish system in between.
Godot dost-e-man,
That was very clever of you to connect the Sikh aspect to the majority/minority logic. :)
I used Sikhs as an example, because they may be disproportionately represented in the Indian military and yet do not dominate India. Paki Punjoos were not the majority from 1947 to 1971, yet they dominated even then. In fact, West Pakistan was fabricated as a province to give Paki Punjoos parity with the Bengalis in East Pak.
To succeed politically Pakistan needs:
Secularism
Real autonomy for provinces
Local control over taxes, police, and use of military force in the province,
Creation of several smaller provinces as in India to allow more self-rule (e.g. divide Punjab into four, Sindh into two, Baluchistan into two, and NWFP into three)
Elimination of quotas or honest enforcement of quotas, but not this sifarish system in between.
#800 Posted by mohar11 on November 10, 2005 1:02:53 pm
Re: # 797 salim
[...Get ready for the Suntan ....]
You think?.... yeah sure, why not - I don`t want Allah`s precious blessings to go waste....
Besides - Mr G`s daughter may like it....you know, a Suntan di*k in a Dhoti .... that`s as exotic as it gets :)
(that`s it - that`s the last one on Mr G`s fictional daughter....)
[...Get ready for the Suntan ....]
You think?.... yeah sure, why not - I don`t want Allah`s precious blessings to go waste....
Besides - Mr G`s daughter may like it....you know, a Suntan di*k in a Dhoti .... that`s as exotic as it gets :)
(that`s it - that`s the last one on Mr G`s fictional daughter....)
#799 Posted by Godot on November 10, 2005 12:56:34 pm
Re: # 789
Salim
“The problem is the nagging hemorrhoid of Punjabi domination… Sikhs, they certainly don`t run India as the Punjabis rule in Pakistan”
The Punjabis, perhaps unfortunately for Pakistan, constitute the majority ethnic group and majority of Pakistan population. Sikhs are a tiny minority in India. If Sikhs constituted a majority of Indian population then Lord knows what they would have been doing to the minorities in India. Unlike Pakistan, India is fortunate not to have an ethnic group in majority.
And, yes, a friend you are.
Salim
“The problem is the nagging hemorrhoid of Punjabi domination… Sikhs, they certainly don`t run India as the Punjabis rule in Pakistan”
The Punjabis, perhaps unfortunately for Pakistan, constitute the majority ethnic group and majority of Pakistan population. Sikhs are a tiny minority in India. If Sikhs constituted a majority of Indian population then Lord knows what they would have been doing to the minorities in India. Unlike Pakistan, India is fortunate not to have an ethnic group in majority.
And, yes, a friend you are.
#798 Posted by mohar11 on November 10, 2005 12:55:17 pm
Re: # 788 godot
[...Why your dhoti has red spots?...]
Oh that..... that`s the blood from your virgin daughter .... I just scr@wed her - it may be shocking to you, but apparently she likes dhoti-clad d**s....
(sorry - couldn`t resist)
[...Why your dhoti has red spots?...]
Oh that..... that`s the blood from your virgin daughter .... I just scr@wed her - it may be shocking to you, but apparently she likes dhoti-clad d**s....
(sorry - couldn`t resist)








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