Black Pakistan and White Pakistan

$824: ``So, I request those who sincerely think that we can develop a Chowk where honest opinions are expressed and debated clean of these one-liner hate material should come forward and be counted.``

Is that the new Pakistan you had in mind v/s old Pakistan Behram sahib? Coercion, threats of employment loss, deportation are the next step in your search of cleanliness after threats of anal rape, violence to families, rape of Hindoo girls did not work. You are openly asking Chowk editors, staff and others to join you in this conspiracy of mayhem.

What is one liner hate material and why is that any worse than two line or ten line hate material?

Re: # 819

baba arjun,

Do you really think you are that important? Internet Protocol carries enough information to back track your connection via webserver, router, proxy e.t.c logs. Which probably goes back to your company`s corporate network ;)

haideri

#824 by behram1 on November 10, 2005 2:45pm PT


but to ratchet this debate up a bit, and figure out who these hate mongers are


I fail to see how ``ratcheting this debate`` will help you figure out who people are..

Typical paki...all talk and no action..It`s like Kargil and Siachen all over...

You`ll probably end up getting more pakis deported...as it is, the feds are on the watch for paki jihadi lovers...

They`ll either end up with trailer park lynndie in gitmo or worse...back in Karachi...

Re: # 824 Ok...that was way too gay...even for you mah negro!!

And what`s up with the bold font? hain!!!

To all those who love peace and harmony

We must be able to help remove hate mongers from this Internet site. Those who have H1-B visa may not realize that they have a job to perform. They should not waste time of company working hours by posting nonsense material on this Chowk which is not job related. If we determine their handles, and who they are we could easily expose them and report their activities to their Human Resources department and get them identified.

So please help me in identifying these individuals. By now some of these handles must have left enough clues, hints, etc. of who these people are. Let us work towards bringing harmony on this Chowk, instead of tolerating these hate-ridden snippets.

If the Chowk staff is unable or unwilling to work with us to bring harmony, then we are left absolutely with no choice but to ratchet this debate up a bit, and figure out who these hate mongers are. Freedom of speech is respected and admirable, but hate is not. Chowk staff has to develop a set up rules and guidelines in which constant religious attacks, should not, must not and cannot be tolerated.

So, I request those who sincerely think that we can develop a Chowk where honest opinions are expressed and debated clean of these one-liner hate material should come forward and be counted.

Respectfully submitted,

Here is an interesting post from Sadna on UP…Why did she not post this here… But I will do the honors now…
See here is how it goes…if you criticize Hindus or talk about them you are a racist….that is so cool….I am so disappointed that I did not make the list… I guess I am not racist enough for her and that is disappointing…

To see my response to her post visit UP….


Started by sadna on November 10, 2005 12:01pm PT


Saima Shah board and chowk ``madness`` explained(with a comment for n .

1.The hamidm, tahmed, mantolives, omar_quraishi perhaps ali_1 definition of secular/patriotic - one who hates Hindus.

2.So when a Pakistani Parsi makes racist remarks about Hindus, he is acclaimed by them to be a secular patriotic Pakistani. His calling Indian women whores is also an unobjectionable reason to call him secular.

(From previously)
3. Not having a 100% Persian/Arabic name causes an Indian Muslim to be labelled not authentic by the secular modern types listed above. Indian Muslims are Pakistanis-in-waiting - until an Indian Muslim lets it show that he doesn`t hate all Hindus. At that point he becomes Uncle Tom, house Negro, aadha Hindu, weak of faith.

4.The above Pakistanis are undecided about Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus- hating baniyas is a sign of secularism among Punjabis and a definite qualification to be a Pakistani-in-waiting.

5.All other Indians(of all religions) are Hindu fanatics unless they keep expressing shame for being Hindu. Shankar once upon a time was secular by this criteria, but he didn`t swallow every last insult so he is not secular any more. soysauce is also in dangerous territory by objecting to racism. AlephNull and satyavadi, not being Hindus, thus have no chance of not being Hindu fanatics.

6. Finally any Indian who disagrees with the above-listed Pakistanis is a Hindu fanatic.

7. Mantolives` personal definition of bigotted and fascist fanatic Indian is anyone who doesn`t praise him as modern-day Jinnah and anyone who doesn`t lend unqualified support to his abuse of sadna.

stuka is just barely remaining a secular Indian by this criteria and his well-timed absences help . dullabhatti lost out on this count-not a pun, it was on the subject of the census count that he agreed with the census figures and fell from grace.

Mantolives doesn`t get jang`s point so jang can be anything. khamkhwa is in the interact 0 doghouse unlike scout who opposes sadna . arjun_m regards Mantolives as modern-day Jinnah so is not a fascist. Subroto appears to be on notice.


nb and amrita are the most bigotted fascist Hindu posters here because they are not serenading Mantolives to the skies, which any self-respecting Indian female needs to do to be secular. Mantolives will now be on a vendetta spree against them and they might not be able to post freely on this website any more (refer 10).

8.Romair, faisaluno, atif, Urstruly are less conflicted and less convoluted- for them all Hindus are fascist bigots at heart bar none and it is just a matter of uncovering them. Secularism as espoused by others they consider to be just a scam.

9. catchy is the same as 8 but he is currently less bothered about Hindus and more bothered about America and Israel.


10. Comment for nb, which is the only reason I am posting

nb, have you wondered why of all of the hundreds of abusive threads and posts (and posters) on UP and FP you see around you, a big fuss is created by Mantolives and friends about ONLY your post on the Saima Shah thread, and about how its being `censored` is proof that you are a bad person?

Have you thought what is the logical explanation- that Mantolives is an ``interactor`` who can censor posts and ban posters.

He desperately wants to have the last word in some argument with you and his dishonest way is to censor your post then claim `see chowk staff censored your post that proves I, Manto am right and you, nb are a bigotted abusive obscene poster who victimises ``moderate reasonable`` chowkies like behram1 and Salim Chauhan (who follow chowk guidelines unlike you)`.

He will never be honest enough to tell you ` I, Manto am censoring your posts and am pretending it is chowk staff delivering moral judgement on you`.

You didn`t notice how your post was singled out from all the hundreds- that can be a good thing to . But the bottomline is that on a website where Mantolives is one of the staff or close to one of the staff, posters who do not suck up to him are likely to be given the runaround by him. But you can fight your own battles of course.

I missed out naming many, but pl. don`t take that as a bad thing . Take care, all.

hey jihadi_1....did you crap all over your orange jump suit?

kidbegorilla #818 {``# 785 Mr Chauhan, before you say ``reverse the curse``, please ask the countless Indian youth under 25 ``}

Primate Ji, :)

I didn`t realize that you were drawing the line exactly at 25. Being a few months over your arbitrary boundary, I am now in the same heap as the wise octogenarians of Chowk. I feel empowered. Thanks,

If you noticed, Homo Erectus, I only suggested an idea. Of course, you have every right to a different idea and a different opinion.

I am sorry I disrupted your foraging through the forests of Burundi. :)

#816 by ali_1 on November 10, 2005 2:14pm PT

tell me jihadi_1....when lynndie makes a naked pile out of jihadis like you, do you prefer being on the top of the pile or the bottom?

#813 by haideri on November 10, 2005 2:00pm PT


I am not a street university graduate like most of you CCs. I am raised in USA.


All the more easier for you to track down my personal information then....

My guess is that you`re ol`porky i.e. hrrehman...

# 785 Mr Chauhan, before you say ``reverse the curse``, please ask the countless Indian youth under 25 if they would like to have a say in this magnanimity. people from your generation often like to believe people from our generation either do not exist or can be sidelined because we live under your roofs, eat the food you provide, and so should think also like you, and make the same mistakes and pass on the same curse in a vicious cycle.

Mr Ashtaband, does your canning facility discriminate between Muslim Indian, Hindoooooooo Indian, Jain Indian, Parsi Indian, Buddhist Indian, Secular Indian, Atheist Indian, etc.. or do you can everyone equally? A good chunk of those Alice who are no longer privilged to work on your Capital One account are also Alia, who you are denying a means of employment to, so they will be forced to take home no commission, get beaten by their Ali for bringing home less pay, or berated by Abbu for being born or endure screams from Ammi to get married to a local good-for-nothing Asad, perhaps get raped by Arvind or eye-scanned by Adamjee on the way home because they can`t afford an auto rickshaw and have to take a cycle rickshaw instead - all because people like you find Indians ``ugly`` (what in heaven`s name does that word mean???). And you are the same people who scream loud and forever about women`s rights, rape victims, female infanticide, frustrated poor people who could do a lot if only they were able to access the right resources blah blah blah. What is all that talk - just for show?

If anyone of you were really decent, before continuing this masquerade, you would apologize to Saima Shah for ruining her board.

$816 Ali_1: Smartypants, can you follow the logic and explain it? The names your prophet dropped are like droppings to most Non Pakis. Can you answer the questions or are you too busy using his sugarcanes on yourselfi?

$816 Ali_1: Smartypants, can you follow the logic and explain it? The names your prophet dropped are like droppings to most Non Pakis. Can you answer the questions or are you too busy using his sugarcanes on yourselfi?

#814 mannyd
``Behram Sahib,
It is very difficult to follow your logic. ``

Hey bozo, he is not talking to you. H1B coolies like you should wait in line to receive the sugarcane.

``Are you dropping these names just to impress us lowly ugly Hindus``

You lowly hinjus should be glad to pick up any pakistani droppings and rub them in your ugly faces. You won`t be so ugly in your next janam.

``By the way Dharma was looking for you. ``

He has to wait in line behind other hinjus for the ganna (unless he as a pretty female relative that we can sample aka ``backdoor audition``)

``..I am raised in USA...``

Wow. Not a sugarcane field in Texas, I hope.

``As part of my young adulthood at NED University I used to have long discussions with Altaf Hussain. He may remember me. I also had taken a class with Benazir Bhutto, when she used to be called Pinky... I briefly worked for Kamal Azfar, as well....I was involved with National Organization of Progressive Students (NOPS)...whose head was Senator Reza Rabbani.

All during my lifetime, never once did I consider that Pakistan was formed erroneously. In my opinion, it was not a mistake. I do however, feel your pain and frustration.``

Behram Sahib,

It is very difficult to follow your logic.
1. You had long talks with Altaf and he may or may not remember you.
2. You went to the same class with Pinky.
3. You briefly worked with Kamal Azfar of NOPS, whose head was Senator Reza.

Are you dropping these names just to impress us lowly ugly Hindus on H1B visas?
Or are you saying that anyone who did one or all three things becomes convinced of the error of Pakistan? Why is that? How did you escape that fate? Had a good teacher in Pakistaniyat class?
With that type of logic, it is easy to see your childlike faith in Sugarcane rape.

What and why all the harping on the adjective `New`? What changed?

By the way Dharma was looking for you. He had a question about discrepancy in two of your posts. No big deal if you do not feel like answering him.