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A Movement in Religious Nationalism: Jami’at-ul-Ulama-i-Hind
Posted by Fosa Nov 11, 2003 08:24 pm


#2
Pankaj Misra (the fake one )


``Here is some of what I learnt about Shah Walli Ullah (all of it is from Pakistani sources, so please don`t screaming RSS, RSS at me):``


Why immitate as if you are related to PANKAJ mISRA ????????????


If there werent RSS and Zionists and Pro Jew pro sikh Pro Hindu Pro Parsi In PAKISTAN ... HOW canyou account that you Hindu get Published and i Get CENSORED!!!!!
Mapping Karachi’s Charms and Contradictions
Posted by Fosa Nov 11, 2003 03:28 am

#44

And really, who can blame them? For all of its serious problems, India`s pr maintains that it has a richness, diversity and tolerance that seems to embrace unnumerable ideas and identities- and lends itself well to the imagination. I cant really argue with it. ``

If you just think with head on your shoulders

India has billion mouth even if 20% of its lazy riding on the back of poor..... literate 200 millions embraciing English England as its beacon (rushdie /Naipaul) can produce its own garbage
consume it
buy it

sell it among itself to create Box office recird breaking sale of Any Book ,Any Bollywood MASALA and queer Disco Bhangra what have you ..


Why would a continent sellitslf in a foreign language to feed itself is a failure by itself but for a country size of CONTINENT .its a one country queer weird shameful and UNIQUE bewilderinglly !!!

Chinese know english too and are smarter in all respect than Indians .Who cares about Rushdie /Naipaul outside 200 milion minions of India ..Its unfortunate that yo belong in the same 200 millions of the subcontinent thoughfrom aDIFFERENT country but stuck inthe haegonomy to fel overhelmed by QUANTITY ..never try to peddle that as quality to anyone ....

Just b/c billion do itdoes not make it CLASSIC !!!!


Believe me b/c i have close up picture which you will never HAVE .....
Mapping Karachi’s Charms and Contradictions
Posted by Fosa Nov 11, 2003 03:28 am

#44

And really, who can blame them? For all of its serious problems, India`s pr maintains that it has a richness, diversity and tolerance that seems to embrace unnumerable ideas and identities- and lends itself well to the imagination. I cant really argue with it. ``


If you just think with head on your shoulders

India has billion mouth even if 20% of its lazy riding on the back of poor..... literate 200 millions embraciing English England as its beacon (rushdie /Naipaul) can produce its own garbage
consume it
buy it
sell it among itself to create Box office record breaking sale of Any Book ,Any Bollywood MASALA and queer Disco Bhangra what have you ..


Why would a continent sell itslf in a foreign language to feed itself is a failure by itself but for a country size of CONTINENT .its a one country queer weird shameful and UNIQUE bewilderinglly !!!

Chinese know english too and are smarter in all respect than Indians .Who cares about Rushdie /Naipaul outside 200 milion minions of India ..Its unfortunate that you belong in the same 200 millions of the subcontinent though from a DIFFERENT country but stuck inthe haegonomy to feel overhelmed by QUANTITY ..never try to peddle that as QUALITY to anyone ....

Just b/c billion do it....does not make it CLASSIC !!!! spl considering the quality of that billion nunber ...


Believe me b/c i have close up picture which you will never HAVE .....
Outsourcing Torture
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 02:32 pm
#12 by dost-mittar on November 10, 2003 12:23pm PT
Fosa#3
Ashcroft and other US officials do have the right and indeed an obligation to protect American citizens. But they cant do that by trampling on the freedoms and rights of others. This is what has happened in this and several other cases.



D.M.

You have it ALL,wrong .

You do`nt know my knowledge of ASHCROFTS and AMERICANS rights ,LAWS and Human decorum

Self preservation basic rights never extends to MURDERING indiscriminately like those NON sovereign ghost org .....

Again tell me somthing That I Do NOT know .....
A Gory Tale of Lies, Greed and Deception
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 01:35 pm
#24

``poor Indians dead simply because of Indian Government`s shopping for arms the world over (kindly note that there are 35.5 million Indians living under poverty line according to the UN figures,``

#24
YOUR ESTIMATES ARE MODEST..more ppl. charu.muzumdar ..Netaji ...Encountr killings by Police Army CRP BSF mara military Militia of INDIA GUNS than IMAGINABLE is much much more than Historians lies in Books of Fictinal stories of Moghul or Hindu Kush or Ayodhya !!!!!

though your persopective in who is a GREATER demon is RIGHT on mARK!!!!!
Outsourcing Torture
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 01:35 pm

#7
``Just in past 2 years Americans have killed somewhere between 60k to 100K Muslims; dispatched two Muslim countries to stone age; and thousands of Muslims are rotting in jails without due process all around the globe because of their religious beleifs or simply guilt by association...``



NO NON `true` MUSLIM will EVER SAY that ....

AND if Jews are given the Franchise on Suffering discrimination halplessness of Antisemitism ...MUSLIMS desereve 10 times more than JEWS ..

#6Feroz K your info about AShcroft is NO-NEWS to me or anyone ......

Give somthing THAT I DO NOT know



Outsourcing Torture
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 01:35 pm

#7
``Just in past 2 years Americans have killed somewhere between 60k to 100K Muslims; dispatched two Muslim countries to stone age; and thousands of Muslims are rotting in jails without due process all around the globe because of their religious beleifs or simply guilt by association...``



NO NON `true` MUSLIM will EVER SAY that ....

AND if Jews are given the Franchise on Suffering discrimination halplessness of Antisemitism ...MUSLIMS desereve 10 times more than JEWS ..

#6Feroz K your info about AShcroft is NO-NEWS to me or anyone ......

Give somthing THAT I DO NOT know



A Gory Tale of Lies, Greed and Deception
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 12:35 pm

#11 by Indian on November 10, 2003 7:47am PT
Bangla Desh is a Muslim nation and has Army too. How many times India has ever dared to enter their territory? NEVER EVER!!!!!

Paki Army have been fooling the common citizens of Pakistan and looting them. Paki Army reminds me of a psycho husband who gets out-muscled by a bully in the street and then comes home and beats his hapless wife. Pity.


Greater DEMON INDIAN
ONLY IF YOU NINCOPOOPER HANG YOUR HEAD INSHAME LOOKING AT THE NAVE L THROUGH WHICH YOU WERE PARASITE FOR 9 MONTHS SUCKING HR BLOOD .AND TURN AROUND AND KILL 6000 WI+OMEN FOR DOWRY and WHOLE MISOGYNY OF INDIANS !!!


NOT BEFORE YOU MURDERER OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS including CHARU MUZUMDAR ,Netaji and MILLIONS MORE THAN PAKISTANI you HINDUTVA and RT Wing INDIRA like LEADERS OF YOUR ARE NO LESS BRUTAL THAN HITLER
Outsourcing Torture
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 06:25 am

Despicable Absolutely Barbaric AMERICANS never before I had such low vile and disgustingly scornful derision for Americans particularly for one person ASHCROFT .....

I haveheard of Hitler mussoloni,Yahya Khan ,even heartless Secretaries Henry Kissinger ,cold Madeline Albright ,ruthless Indira Gandhi ,iron Lady Thatcher and others but hearing his (ASHCROFTS and like BOYNIK)statements ad-lib live I never could have believed such total nonsense wrose than well known dictators and despots of oligary or autocray in other countries!

Simple fact is NO SINGLE CASE OF TERRORISM HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE ABORTED PREVENTED OR FOUGHT BACK since 9/11 and particularly immediately following ```PREVENT before INDICT ``most idiotic phrase in English language I have ever read heard or thought was POSSIBLE! The DRACONIAN inhumane and SHEER INDISCRIMINATE TORTURE OF INNOCENT human of certain PROFILE or islamophobic s character assasinations cruellly ...

This guy STEVE Emerson ,so called uncrdentialed writer journalists with no more ability than to speak write in English self declared EXPERT on terrorism (is there a Ph.D. ever on this ) senastionall videotapes of OPEN ..Mosques all over his back yard of Washington d.c Boston L.A. and houston,chiocago Toranto and declares with foreign looking bearded men images with nazi style inhuman islamophobic slurs that no matter how cruel holocaust might have been this vilification leaves the wearing of yellow star by hitler less painfull than declaring every beared of certainprofile as terrorist WITHOUT ANY REASON ????--I am talking of a VIDEO put out deceptively by STEVE EMerson titled ``THE TERRORIST WITHIN USA ``

Just as Hitler should not be forgotten Muslims should NEVER nEVER forget AsHCROFT STEVE EMERSON and likes even if in future after Iraq and hopefull better times prevail in relation of USA with new IRAQI regime ....

A Gory Tale of Lies, Greed and Deception
Posted by Fosa Nov 10, 2003 06:25 am
The only tangible realisation of `Pakistan dream` given the British attitude towards muslims in general and PML /Jinnah in particular was giving a piece of least prized real estate[ undisputedly overwhelminghly populated by muslimsc.not 50-555 but above 80-99% ]densely populated areas irrespective of its contiguity ..

The only way such a LOOng border whole of eatern border of West pakistan and before 71 the circumferential border of East Pakistan perhaps equal in length if not more of west pakistan borders in length ..

Only was possible by largest by proprtion martial deterent or protector of `territory ` from arch enemy neighbour India

Without Army muscle Pakistan was Doubtfull ....no body ever could risk otherwise that indeed Pakistan could exisist without ``body guards `????????

I have no idea how pakistanis feel.....if this fear is unreal indeed Army is useless!!!
On Raising Kids ...
Posted by Fosa Nov 9, 2003 11:58 pm
i think at about 10-13 yrs of AGE every girl in non religous incultated society so called secular or `democratic` society of post war and post industrial revolution .SHOULD BE GIVEN THE CHOICE TO BE

A WOMAN with all its traditional trial and tribulations ..mundane for some yet so fulfilling for others....

or a MALE role of overal executive responsibilty bearer even if she might be born with female organs .....

Even though anatomy should not dictate the `maleness`(if one were to argue ) two roles of female and males are parallel

one cannot perform two or both roles at the same time!Nor do they meet or criss cross ...
Why is the West so angry with Dr. Mahathir?
Posted by Fosa Nov 8, 2003 06:54 am
None of the detailed history of minute pieces of real estate is worth remembering 56 years later .......

We are planning a much larger country where theses lines are like geological date lines of senile,prehistoric and archivally anvient brains of dead spirit Nakhok ,and dying pre partition meaning less geneartions remeunerating brooding uselessly !!

I know my friends come from all over in/ out side those lines that we together have crossed with impunity repeatdly ALL THE TIME those `borders`without paasport visa or permit from neither of illigetimate Govts.!!

Mapping Karachi’s Charms and Contradictions
Posted by Fosa Nov 8, 2003 12:38 am


To be a prophet of English South Asian writers ..Naipaul Rushdie Arundhati to Jhumpa you must let `secrets` out to voyeur west and drooling to taste the mess other cultures has

just like we relish to quote there(west) own provided statistics of domestic violence, childbuse alcoholic and druggues, pedophiliac priests non priests alike,...........................

Arundhatiis called `dirty` roy by majority indians ,Jhumpa is vehemently criticised by Bengalis for not painting the regal intelllectual Tagoric clean picture of West Bengali ....

Monica Aliis alsoaccused like Jhuma of not able to read and writeBengali just like imagineSaminaShah would be cluless of urdu script ....!!
Orissa: A Gujarat in the making
Posted by Fosa Nov 7, 2003 08:45 pm
115 by pmishra2 on November 7, 2003 8:04am PT
#122 saminasha

I am sorry your ignorance was exposed by me in public. Writing a few sentences in confident english does not entitle you to pass judgement on this or that society or culture.

It would be quite similar to my advising you to seek mental health counselling or prescribe some psychiatric medication for you. Does that strike you as reasonable??

So, tell me, oh great hindutva expert: when was the VHP founded, where and for what declared reasons???


I

am from India and

Jan Sangh .Hindu Mahasabha .Bjp VHF Bajrang Dal RSs ShivSena..is like me having 12 nicks ..

If you believe that my 123 nicks are 12 different people then I will condone your IDIOTIC illogical Baseless Nincompoopery Ignoramus ambushing query WHO cares Where Your Mother Was Born when i Know you r that I consider DEMON and it may or may not havebearing where your motheer was born and at the moment I am least bothered or concerned about it.

All the above org are same COBRA withSAME POISON...anti MUSLIM. Even if it means Killing Gandhi And raping his dead body BY making Friend with UGLY ZIONISTS..


You have made your choice AND NOW LET US MAKE THE CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!who is what ./
Orissa: A Gujarat in the making
Posted by Fosa Nov 6, 2003 04:53 pm
99 by rsridhar on November 6, 2003 3:41pm PT
re:#93 by Fosa
Do you even read my post? When did i defend Togadia, Modi etc.
BTW, Shourie, Advani are not the problem. They may hold some extreme views but that is permitted in a democracy. They certainly are not the Modi types.
Sridhar

I respect your opinion .BUT i agree to DIFFER in each others opinion



InMy ipinion categorically

JOSHi

Shourie

Advani ARE

the RUMSFELD Paul Wolfoweitz And BOYNIK ....You know what i mean !!!!!!!!!!
Orissa: A Gujarat in the making
Posted by Fosa Nov 6, 2003 03:41 pm


``So contrary to what our learned experts commented about how Gujarat was doomed because of the riots , Gujarat is doing as well as any state in India.``

Gujju ...Yupee come lately

Gujarat is doing as well as any state in India

According to whom And WHOSE standards?????


W.bengalis in State are the Happiest


While Gujju like pariah roam the streets of India scavenging in Orissa (pitrodia) Harshad ,Ketan Mehta Parekh (Mumai ) And you in Deep south like alien..... i am in America ...


You have no culture Language Music Lyric Poetry Art that you LUV ..u ar What Americans NOW realise Despise themselves for HAVING BECOME ..Nothing to Call of Themselves but ``FISTFULL OF DOLLARS $$``
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