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Jinnah Papers
MANIFESTO OF THE MUSLIM LEFT WING
dated 30.04.47
...anticipate the rise of Islam,Pakistan causing & initiating it......The primary object of Pakistan would be to cause general awakening of the Muslim - making him an ideal and exemplary Muslim so that non-Muslims may of their own accord be attracted to Islam.
This would mark the end of the world. THIS WOULD BE NO MORE AS IT'S BE TRANSFORMED INTO PARADISE. (ROTFL)
PRINCIPLES
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2. The Left wing declares that Pakistan must be a quite separate sovereign 'Islamic Republic'. Any idea of a common Hindu-Muslim Centre WITH A PARTICLE OF sovereignty surrendered to it will not be acceptable.
3. Unless fundamental principles of Islam are not violated by any party, the Left wing will not act (i.e they are not tru LEft wingers but vigilante Islamic warriors!)
4. The Left wing doesnt recognise the liberty of a Muslim to desert the Muslim Party (ie AIML) & join a non-Muslim party (ie Congress). In this case he'll be considered asa traitor to the Muslims (actually Jinnah himself called Khizr a traitor )
5. Pakistan state must urge all the Muslim States (Princely, I think) to adopt Islamic Constitution, finally a Federation of Islamic States.
6,7
8. Islamic States should begin an organised propaganda of the Islamic teachings......a special State machinery should be set up fot this purpose (similar to Council of Islamic Ideology).
Posted by
VRV
Aug 27, 2009 02:12 pm
Even Leftists in Pakistan are Islamists.Jinnah Papers
MANIFESTO OF THE MUSLIM LEFT WING
dated 30.04.47
...anticipate the rise of Islam,Pakistan causing & initiating it......The primary object of Pakistan would be to cause general awakening of the Muslim - making him an ideal and exemplary Muslim so that non-Muslims may of their own accord be attracted to Islam.
This would mark the end of the world. THIS WOULD BE NO MORE AS IT'S BE TRANSFORMED INTO PARADISE. (ROTFL)
PRINCIPLES
1.
2. The Left wing declares that Pakistan must be a quite separate sovereign 'Islamic Republic'. Any idea of a common Hindu-Muslim Centre WITH A PARTICLE OF sovereignty surrendered to it will not be acceptable.
3. Unless fundamental principles of Islam are not violated by any party, the Left wing will not act (i.e they are not tru LEft wingers but vigilante Islamic warriors!)
4. The Left wing doesnt recognise the liberty of a Muslim to desert the Muslim Party (ie AIML) & join a non-Muslim party (ie Congress). In this case he'll be considered asa traitor to the Muslims (actually Jinnah himself called Khizr a traitor )
5. Pakistan state must urge all the Muslim States (Princely, I think) to adopt Islamic Constitution, finally a Federation of Islamic States.
6,7
8. Islamic States should begin an organised propaganda of the Islamic teachings......a special State machinery should be set up fot this purpose (similar to Council of Islamic Ideology).
Am I a Skeptical Muslim?
Page 38.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/Econ190/PakistanSexRatio.pdf
The amber, orange and red districts are those where sex ratios are in the band of 877-923, 829-876 & 789-823 respectively. Most of the districts of this variety are in Pakistan and northern India, esp western UP, Haryana and Punjab & border districts of Rajasthan.
Low levels of sex ratio is invariably due to large-scale abortions avoiding the birth of girl child. This may be due to historical social customs and the economic factors linked thereto.
Making sex determination tests is a crime in India and that's a proactive step to avoid this lopsided sex ratio in northern India. We dont know what Pakistan is doing to avoid that tipping.
Posted by
VRV
Jul 5, 2009 08:04 pm
Ppl with colour blindness can avoid this but ppl who see colours properly can see this map of sex ratio in India and Pakistan. Whereas chtyas like Riaz can keep talking abt something like 'Shining India' on his own (tho I never used that phrase in 3 years I am here, directly or indirectly).Page 38.
http://www.economics.pomona.edu/GarySmith/Econ190/PakistanSexRatio.pdf
The amber, orange and red districts are those where sex ratios are in the band of 877-923, 829-876 & 789-823 respectively. Most of the districts of this variety are in Pakistan and northern India, esp western UP, Haryana and Punjab & border districts of Rajasthan.
Low levels of sex ratio is invariably due to large-scale abortions avoiding the birth of girl child. This may be due to historical social customs and the economic factors linked thereto.
Making sex determination tests is a crime in India and that's a proactive step to avoid this lopsided sex ratio in northern India. We dont know what Pakistan is doing to avoid that tipping.
Am I a Skeptical Muslim?
The sex-ratio in Pakistan (most of it is in the range of 877-923) is same as it's in some parts of northern India i.e. western UP, Punjab, Haryana & the border districts of Rajasthan.
It's a different story in rest of India. The stories of shudders, bride burning and abortion (abolished by Law) are old stories.
Sex ratio is actually favourable (near, equal or more women than men) in the whole of peninsular India with an exception of Maharastra (924-971).
Some ppl have this ability to BS and pick statistics selectively and ignore their own sour back.
Posted by
VRV
Jul 5, 2009 04:12 pm
The topic of the article has been hijacked by jackasses again :(The sex-ratio in Pakistan (most of it is in the range of 877-923) is same as it's in some parts of northern India i.e. western UP, Punjab, Haryana & the border districts of Rajasthan.
It's a different story in rest of India. The stories of shudders, bride burning and abortion (abolished by Law) are old stories.
Sex ratio is actually favourable (near, equal or more women than men) in the whole of peninsular India with an exception of Maharastra (924-971).
Some ppl have this ability to BS and pick statistics selectively and ignore their own sour back.
A Prescription for the BJP\'s Revival
Read again. I never said India's ahead of China, u jobless moron.
Punjabi KHYBER, Repeat of lies wont make it any righter. I never said India is ahead of China but u guys are damn happy that China is ahead of India and they screw Muslims in Xinjiang.
U guys are bad Muslims but good Pakistanis indeed.
Posted by
VRV
Jun 29, 2009 06:39 pm
382, That's how u live in ur own cocoon and let Muslims in neighbouring Xinjiang treated as animals without political, religious and human rights, jackass. That's pure expediency. Dont act like a bigger Muslim.Read again. I never said India's ahead of China, u jobless moron.
Punjabi KHYBER, Repeat of lies wont make it any righter. I never said India is ahead of China but u guys are damn happy that China is ahead of India and they screw Muslims in Xinjiang.
U guys are bad Muslims but good Pakistanis indeed.
Pakistan, Can You Hear Me?
(Pakistanis have a distinguished and prominent history of fighting against the dictatorships, obscure ideologies, oppression, and for the democratic rights.)
Self-congratulatory statement. When did their awam fought the 'obscure ideologies' & oppression. Dumb coot.
(Since the first army attack on the civil rights in Pakistan in 1958, there were more than 10 uprisings against the establishment).
Cant site the "10" Uprisings.
(The Baloch fought the army in 1959-1963).
That's for autonomy and independence, gadhay.
(In 1964 there was first student uprising in Karachi that forced First Presidential elections in Pakistan. In 1967-69 the whole country was up in arms against the army dictatorship until they got rid of it).
But still the Army ruled Pakistan for most of its history?
(When the army refused to hand over power in 1971, majority province fought against the army in East Pakistan. That was the bloodiest battle in the history of the subcontinent between the people and the ruling elites).
Bangladesh's war of independence that's katta.
(The army saved itself by breaking up the country in two)
Wow, jaw-dropping sacrifice by the army.
(From 1977 to 1984 there was not a peaceful day in Sindh or Punjab. Sindh took most of the burnt but tons of Punjabi fought for the democracy too).
Yeah, pre-Zia era politics are a diff class.
(The Movement in Swat though misguided has roots in local public demands. It is unfortunate that the secular parties such as ANP allowed the rightwing to take control of the situation but that will come to pass).
Swat is a 'localised' movement? Only this chitya knows this. Rest of the world thinks otherwise. These 'misguided' elements are advocating the 'public demands' thru daily beheadings and bombing of schools and that's nothing tot do with Talibani that's establishing emirates in outer Pakistan.
This katta is a Talibani apologist.
(After 1857 it took Indians almost sixty years to build first movement against the British and that movement was led by the most reactionary faction of the Muslim population followed by the so-called liberal Congress party and its leaders).
Only fcuked up minds produce this kinda garbage. Freedom movement that started in Bengal is not the sole responsibility of 'Indians' alone (as if Pakistan existed then and were actively fighting for freedom against the British).
(From 1919 to 1947 one can count the total number of movements against the British and the numbers would not go beyond 5).
This gadha thinks that there'd would be hundreds of separate movements against British. There's one popular Congress movement and AIML started their own later, kinda spoil sport at crucial times.
(India was lucky that the British were exhausted, bankrupt, and under tremendous US pressure to let India go).
Dumbfcuk, the US had not pressurised British and there're not in such a position. Instead British saw the looming civil war after they saw the DAD violence in Bengal and later in Bihar. Doesn't know the head and tail of history, idiot.
(I seriously doubt that Indians had it in them to physically fight the British for Independence).
One more dumbfcuk point. Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose led Azad Hind Fouz that fought British militarily.
This gandoo alludes that oh, these Hindu veggies cant fight. He doesnt want to remember the Ind-Pak wars and the outcomes thereof.
(After 1947 the first test to democracy in Indian, in 1977 emergency was met with a deafening silence and in fact was celebrated in India).
Deafening silence? Never heard and Jai Prakash Narain and the complete rout of Indira Gandhi?
Kunt, dont argue if u know nothing abt it. I guess u know it but wants to lie.
(In 1992 a major political party led the largest assault on a minority and was rewarded by the electorate immediately afterwards).
Democratic nevertheless.
(I can guarantee now that if the army take over in India, people will be distributing mithai allover India!)
Zai Hamidit point.
In sum, this gandoo is an empty brain with no logical argument but clever play of language and lying to present a wrong picture.
Posted by
VRV
Feb 25, 2009 01:47 am
36 AH show and his ch**oicy.(Pakistanis have a distinguished and prominent history of fighting against the dictatorships, obscure ideologies, oppression, and for the democratic rights.)
Self-congratulatory statement. When did their awam fought the 'obscure ideologies' & oppression. Dumb coot.
(Since the first army attack on the civil rights in Pakistan in 1958, there were more than 10 uprisings against the establishment).
Cant site the "10" Uprisings.
(The Baloch fought the army in 1959-1963).
That's for autonomy and independence, gadhay.
(In 1964 there was first student uprising in Karachi that forced First Presidential elections in Pakistan. In 1967-69 the whole country was up in arms against the army dictatorship until they got rid of it).
But still the Army ruled Pakistan for most of its history?
(When the army refused to hand over power in 1971, majority province fought against the army in East Pakistan. That was the bloodiest battle in the history of the subcontinent between the people and the ruling elites).
Bangladesh's war of independence that's katta.
(The army saved itself by breaking up the country in two)
Wow, jaw-dropping sacrifice by the army.
(From 1977 to 1984 there was not a peaceful day in Sindh or Punjab. Sindh took most of the burnt but tons of Punjabi fought for the democracy too).
Yeah, pre-Zia era politics are a diff class.
(The Movement in Swat though misguided has roots in local public demands. It is unfortunate that the secular parties such as ANP allowed the rightwing to take control of the situation but that will come to pass).
Swat is a 'localised' movement? Only this chitya knows this. Rest of the world thinks otherwise. These 'misguided' elements are advocating the 'public demands' thru daily beheadings and bombing of schools and that's nothing tot do with Talibani that's establishing emirates in outer Pakistan.
This katta is a Talibani apologist.
(After 1857 it took Indians almost sixty years to build first movement against the British and that movement was led by the most reactionary faction of the Muslim population followed by the so-called liberal Congress party and its leaders).
Only fcuked up minds produce this kinda garbage. Freedom movement that started in Bengal is not the sole responsibility of 'Indians' alone (as if Pakistan existed then and were actively fighting for freedom against the British).
(From 1919 to 1947 one can count the total number of movements against the British and the numbers would not go beyond 5).
This gadha thinks that there'd would be hundreds of separate movements against British. There's one popular Congress movement and AIML started their own later, kinda spoil sport at crucial times.
(India was lucky that the British were exhausted, bankrupt, and under tremendous US pressure to let India go).
Dumbfcuk, the US had not pressurised British and there're not in such a position. Instead British saw the looming civil war after they saw the DAD violence in Bengal and later in Bihar. Doesn't know the head and tail of history, idiot.
(I seriously doubt that Indians had it in them to physically fight the British for Independence).
One more dumbfcuk point. Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose led Azad Hind Fouz that fought British militarily.
This gandoo alludes that oh, these Hindu veggies cant fight. He doesnt want to remember the Ind-Pak wars and the outcomes thereof.
(After 1947 the first test to democracy in Indian, in 1977 emergency was met with a deafening silence and in fact was celebrated in India).
Deafening silence? Never heard and Jai Prakash Narain and the complete rout of Indira Gandhi?
Kunt, dont argue if u know nothing abt it. I guess u know it but wants to lie.
(In 1992 a major political party led the largest assault on a minority and was rewarded by the electorate immediately afterwards).
Democratic nevertheless.
(I can guarantee now that if the army take over in India, people will be distributing mithai allover India!)
Zai Hamidit point.
In sum, this gandoo is an empty brain with no logical argument but clever play of language and lying to present a wrong picture.
Slumdog Millionaire ... what should movies be like
This is what I said below:
'Coming to the main point of poverty I agree with 'laddu' that we shud be ashamed of it than with somebody showing it.'
Ur lecture is based on presumptions. Keep it real.
Posted by
VRV
Jan 24, 2009 03:21 pm
20, Any movie got to be realistic but somebody jumping into a pit of poop is the kind of reality u want us to believe?This is what I said below:
'Coming to the main point of poverty I agree with 'laddu' that we shud be ashamed of it than with somebody showing it.'
Ur lecture is based on presumptions. Keep it real.
Journey to the Center of Our Souls
It's true that Mo was a shop-keeper or a shop assistant at the temple town of Makkah but as I said b4 it's not Hindu temple & Arabs were not Hindus. That was u could argue that Greeks were also Hindus?!?!?!?
Worshipping stones was not sole characteristic of Hindus.
Posted by
VRV
Jan 1, 2009 02:47 pm
23, laddu,It's true that Mo was a shop-keeper or a shop assistant at the temple town of Makkah but as I said b4 it's not Hindu temple & Arabs were not Hindus. That was u could argue that Greeks were also Hindus?!?!?!?
Worshipping stones was not sole characteristic of Hindus.
Journey to the Center of Our Souls
I saw the replica/picture of the Grand Temple that was destroyed by Romans in 70 AD. If that remained & conquered by Muslims then their concept of Holy place wud've been totally different than what it's today tho this Hajj itself is a combination of blind faith and mundane rituals.
Posted by
VRV
Dec 31, 2008 05:13 am
Recently I saw prog on Discovery 'Jesus : The Man behind many myths' & I found that he's as ordinary as any other guy who became famous thru myths perpetrated by their followers.I saw the replica/picture of the Grand Temple that was destroyed by Romans in 70 AD. If that remained & conquered by Muslims then their concept of Holy place wud've been totally different than what it's today tho this Hajj itself is a combination of blind faith and mundane rituals.
Mumbai Attacks: Shocking
There're a colossal loss of lives in Bombay and India (Bombay) lost something like several thousand crores o/a this terrorist attack & this chutya takes the line of 'conspiracies' i.e. anybody but Pakistani terrorists are involved.
U need to get ur bleeding rectum checked by some unaani hakims.
Posted by
VRV
Nov 28, 2008 04:32 pm
I wonder why this HP chutya jumps up and down like a kaala monkey. Did ur wife sleep with ur neighbour these days, chutye?There're a colossal loss of lives in Bombay and India (Bombay) lost something like several thousand crores o/a this terrorist attack & this chutya takes the line of 'conspiracies' i.e. anybody but Pakistani terrorists are involved.
U need to get ur bleeding rectum checked by some unaani hakims.
The Indian Mujahideen – The Answer to BJP’s Pseudo-Secularist Fascism or a New Method to Spread Unrest?
U seem to be a pseudo-Sindhi. No Indian worth his salt spells Gujarat as Gujrat.
Secondly, u seem to prefer Islamic fascism to Hindu fascism, which proves that u r a daddoo..ahem u look that anyway.
Zeemax,
If u link the blasts in Ahmedabad as respopmse to 1992 riots in Bombay and 2002 riots in Gujarat then u r a tardy toad.
How wud u explain blasts in B'lore, Jaipur and elsewhere??....U had blasts in India even b4 1992.
U Islamists are never happy. U need an excuse to spill blood. Why dont u slaughter ur own son to satiate ur urge to spill blood.
Posted by
VRV
Jul 28, 2008 12:24 am
Rupani,U seem to be a pseudo-Sindhi. No Indian worth his salt spells Gujarat as Gujrat.
Secondly, u seem to prefer Islamic fascism to Hindu fascism, which proves that u r a daddoo..ahem u look that anyway.
Zeemax,
If u link the blasts in Ahmedabad as respopmse to 1992 riots in Bombay and 2002 riots in Gujarat then u r a tardy toad.
How wud u explain blasts in B'lore, Jaipur and elsewhere??....U had blasts in India even b4 1992.
U Islamists are never happy. U need an excuse to spill blood. Why dont u slaughter ur own son to satiate ur urge to spill blood.
Shahjahan’s “Moorti� and Other Absurdities in Agra
Two arms to squeeze the b**bs of his Devi and two arms to embrace her.
I think that explains the 4-armed Gods.
Posted by
VRV
Jan 24, 2008 05:29 am
laddu, one more guess abt four-armed Gods. Two arms to squeeze the b**bs of his Devi and two arms to embrace her.
I think that explains the 4-armed Gods.
Shahjahan’s “Moorti� and Other Absurdities in Agra
In Maharastra, they do speak Marathi outside but I am not sure abt speaking ir at home.
In AP, barring Hyderbad and erstwhile Nizam dists, Muslims are bilingual. In Southern AP they speak in Telugu even @ home (a Cuddapah boy who eloped with a Kuwaiti girl needed a translator for replying to Hindi channel reporters).
In Karnataka, esp northern Karnataka they speak only in Udu as it was part of Hyd state. I am not sure of southern Karnataka.
Orissa, though a very small minority, they are bilingual. They speak accented Hindi/Urdu.
The so called advanced language and culture was nothing but the culture of Muslim elite of the immigrant Iaranis, Turranis (Afghans). Our native kaaliaya Muslims imitated Irani+Turani gentry/sahebs - similar to Sanskritisation among Hindus.
As as aside I can say with authority the Sylhatis (erstwhile Assamese) are seamlessly Bangladeshis now. There're no divisions, major or minor btw Bengali speaking and Sylhati speaking Bangladeshis. They learn each other's langauge & not jealous of each other. Moreover, Sylhatis call themselves as Bengalis. This kinda unity never came btw Sindhis and Mohajirs.
Posted by
VRV
Jan 23, 2008 01:37 am
In Guarat, it's Gujarati even at home. (Bilkisbano said in recent interview that she lanrt Hindi after she started coming ot Bombay and Dehli). In Maharastra, they do speak Marathi outside but I am not sure abt speaking ir at home.
In AP, barring Hyderbad and erstwhile Nizam dists, Muslims are bilingual. In Southern AP they speak in Telugu even @ home (a Cuddapah boy who eloped with a Kuwaiti girl needed a translator for replying to Hindi channel reporters).
In Karnataka, esp northern Karnataka they speak only in Udu as it was part of Hyd state. I am not sure of southern Karnataka.
Orissa, though a very small minority, they are bilingual. They speak accented Hindi/Urdu.
The so called advanced language and culture was nothing but the culture of Muslim elite of the immigrant Iaranis, Turranis (Afghans). Our native kaaliaya Muslims imitated Irani+Turani gentry/sahebs - similar to Sanskritisation among Hindus.
As as aside I can say with authority the Sylhatis (erstwhile Assamese) are seamlessly Bangladeshis now. There're no divisions, major or minor btw Bengali speaking and Sylhati speaking Bangladeshis. They learn each other's langauge & not jealous of each other. Moreover, Sylhatis call themselves as Bengalis. This kinda unity never came btw Sindhis and Mohajirs.
The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military
Yaar, what arabs use as ittar is a strong cloak against bad body & dress odours. Our Muslas use similar ittars and Hindus dont have this ittar tradition. Whites use body spray as they are expected to make/give sex in each and every possible life situation. Secondly their primitive toilet manners demand a tradition of gora ittars.
What are u complaining abt?
Posted by
VRV
Nov 30, 2007 06:38 am
46, Zee,Yaar, what arabs use as ittar is a strong cloak against bad body & dress odours. Our Muslas use similar ittars and Hindus dont have this ittar tradition. Whites use body spray as they are expected to make/give sex in each and every possible life situation. Secondly their primitive toilet manners demand a tradition of gora ittars.
What are u complaining abt?
Re-Imagining Pakistan
yASSer goes `there` unconsciously all the time. Now he remembers his family profession nautanki (whilst referring to Sadna). Prolly he`s a product of Heera Mandi of LaWhore. You know it`s easy money from that profession. He`s able to go to Rutgers with easily gotten money. However the genes - family and national - wont go away that easily.
Posted by
VRV
Dec 19, 2006 05:11 am
Various Posts (Harish),yASSer goes `there` unconsciously all the time. Now he remembers his family profession nautanki (whilst referring to Sadna). Prolly he`s a product of Heera Mandi of LaWhore. You know it`s easy money from that profession. He`s able to go to Rutgers with easily gotten money. However the genes - family and national - wont go away that easily.
Swearing-in Ceremony with Hand on the Bible?
The brief history of bHraami:
Sausage-in, Pig-out,
Posted by
VRV
Dec 7, 2006 09:41 pm
Re: # 255The brief history of bHraami:
Sausage-in, Pig-out,
Swearing-in Ceremony with Hand on the Bible?
Sausage-in PIG-out,
Abey Ch()tia, discuss anything related to the article, Uuuu....numb-skull, Nadir Shah`s keera-in-the-back beHaraami.
Posted by
VRV
Dec 7, 2006 08:59 pm
Re: # 245Sausage-in PIG-out,
Abey Ch()tia, discuss anything related to the article, Uuuu....numb-skull, Nadir Shah`s keera-in-the-back beHaraami.
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