M I Khan March 28, 2006
#208 Posted by bharath on April 3, 2006 6:49:44 pm
Indian2006:
I will explain.
HP is a punjabi sunnistani , HP shares his mother with his fellow Punjabi sunnistanis. In fact I just had his mother since he offers her to Hindoo Kafirs also. He is joking when he says ``your mother would be divided amongst Pakistanis``, he meant only PUNJABI SUNNISTANIS, don`t get offended.
I will explain.
HP is a punjabi sunnistani , HP shares his mother with his fellow Punjabi sunnistanis. In fact I just had his mother since he offers her to Hindoo Kafirs also. He is joking when he says ``your mother would be divided amongst Pakistanis``, he meant only PUNJABI SUNNISTANIS, don`t get offended.
#207 Posted by indian2006 on April 2, 2006 1:47:58 pm
Re: # 206 by HP
This no Gujju. This is my first time to interact. Though I have been around just reading the posts for last 5 years.
I dont know what you mean about Gujju`s mother.
This no Gujju. This is my first time to interact. Though I have been around just reading the posts for last 5 years.
I dont know what you mean about Gujju`s mother.
#206 Posted by HP on April 1, 2006 9:54:11 pm
#205 by indian2006
Gujju is back!
Nothing about your mother on the profile page this time around....
You know she too would be divided amongst Pakistanis....
#205 Posted by indian2006 on April 1, 2006 9:16:07 pm
#29
``Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.``
So does Balochistan belongs to Balochis. Give them freedom. Divide Pakistan
``Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris.``
So does Balochistan belongs to Balochis. Give them freedom. Divide Pakistan
#204 Posted by rsridhar on April 1, 2006 7:44:09 pm
re:#193 by bharath
Agree with u but i also think India has been too reticent in its response to terror.
Now that ISI has started to recruit people locally, it will be difficult to point to Paki source directly. India has to patiently gather info, link it to Paki terror infrastructure and share it with the international community.
It should also prepare to hit hard in response to terror attacks on its vital installations (for eg Infosys campus or HAL etc). I am not sure if Indian politicians have the balls.
Sridhar
Agree with u but i also think India has been too reticent in its response to terror.
Now that ISI has started to recruit people locally, it will be difficult to point to Paki source directly. India has to patiently gather info, link it to Paki terror infrastructure and share it with the international community.
It should also prepare to hit hard in response to terror attacks on its vital installations (for eg Infosys campus or HAL etc). I am not sure if Indian politicians have the balls.
Sridhar
#203 Posted by swarrier on April 1, 2006 3:39:08 pm
Re: # 202
Well I found Glenmorangie to be the best I could afford. Maybe you could start with that
Well I found Glenmorangie to be the best I could afford. Maybe you could start with that
#202 Posted by HP on April 1, 2006 11:25:52 am
#187 by swarrier
“But one day I will convert you into a single malt afficionado.-))”
Show me the brand…
Which one is worth trying?
#201 Posted by arjun_m on March 31, 2006 10:09:06 pm
#200 by kaalchakra on March 31, 2006 9:24pm PT
except that the paki strategy is like infecting yourself with the AIDS virus hoping to deter your enemy by threatening to bleed all over him...
Not exactly working out very well for the pakis...which is why the pakis and pakiland are in the news every other day for something to do with terrorism and most of the western world associates pakiland and pakis with terrorism...which is why they`re spending a lot of money on an image building enterprise...
except that the paki strategy is like infecting yourself with the AIDS virus hoping to deter your enemy by threatening to bleed all over him...
Not exactly working out very well for the pakis...which is why the pakis and pakiland are in the news every other day for something to do with terrorism and most of the western world associates pakiland and pakis with terrorism...which is why they`re spending a lot of money on an image building enterprise...
#200 Posted by KaalChakra on March 31, 2006 9:24:08 pm
arjun
The process of manufacturing terrorists from normal human materials is simple enough to be standardized - or, arranged in the manner of an efficient assemby line.
My guess is, at every step, terrorism instructors would be minimizing the whole range of costs that have to be paid for terrorism, and maximizing the (supposed) gains flowing from the enterprize.
The process of manufacturing terrorists from normal human materials is simple enough to be standardized - or, arranged in the manner of an efficient assemby line.
My guess is, at every step, terrorism instructors would be minimizing the whole range of costs that have to be paid for terrorism, and maximizing the (supposed) gains flowing from the enterprize.
#199 Posted by arjun_m on March 31, 2006 9:06:12 pm
#197 by kaalchakra on March 31, 2006 8:57pm PT
That`s the only reason why some people become terrorists, while others don`t.
What kind of BS is this? Care to explain why, even as you read this, people of the paki persuasion are being busted for terrorism in Canada,Australia, the US and the UK?
terrorists aren`t born..they`re made...by the pakis..
That`s the only reason why some people become terrorists, while others don`t.
What kind of BS is this? Care to explain why, even as you read this, people of the paki persuasion are being busted for terrorism in Canada,Australia, the US and the UK?
terrorists aren`t born..they`re made...by the pakis..
#198 Posted by jang on March 31, 2006 9:01:57 pm
the biggest peace divident from paki-indu peace process is actually for india. the reasoning is as follows. when the paki ceases to be an enemy, there is a much better chance of communal harmony, much less vote-bank politics. this will in the long run generate benefits for society at large. even now, the majorityof diffused bombs as due to vigilance of muslim community (reas abouut the latest bomb that was diffused in byculla, a muslim majority mohalla). i have faith in the baniya hindu cuning and the bollywood to defeat ms. mzari and mr. hamid gul.
in 10 years inshallah, karva chaouth will replace basant in lahore.
in 10 years inshallah, karva chaouth will replace basant in lahore.
#197 Posted by KaalChakra on March 31, 2006 8:57:50 pm
re: mohar11 #189
``How do you deal with jihad?``
By actively allowing it destroy itself.
Sridhar, masanamuthu - you two A grade Chowkies are not disagreeing. Sridhar describes the view as he stands outside the world of terror. Masanamuthu is looking through the eyes of the terrorists.
People who live inside the world of terror will not always measure costs and benefits the same way as would people living outside the world of terror. That`s the only reason why some people become terrorists, while others don`t.
``How do you deal with jihad?``
By actively allowing it destroy itself.
Sridhar, masanamuthu - you two A grade Chowkies are not disagreeing. Sridhar describes the view as he stands outside the world of terror. Masanamuthu is looking through the eyes of the terrorists.
People who live inside the world of terror will not always measure costs and benefits the same way as would people living outside the world of terror. That`s the only reason why some people become terrorists, while others don`t.
#196 Posted by arjun_m on March 31, 2006 8:43:10 pm
New US security strategy
By Tariq Fatemi
The section on China, India and Pakistan merits special attention. The first occupies considerable space, reflective of America’s growing concern over China’s increasing global influence. It is treated with some deference, when it is called upon to act “as a responsible member of the international community as it becomes a global power”. China is, nevertheless, accused of continuing to “hold on to old ways of thinking and acting, that exacerbates concerns throughout the world”. These are listed as continuing military expansion; aggressive trade policy; “locking” up energy supplies and supporting oppressive regimes. While the administration will continue “to encourage China to make the right strategic choices”, the US is prepared to act “against other possibilities.”
India, not surprisingly, receives the kind of praise and adulation that now emanates regularly from Washington. India is “a great democracy” with which their “shared values are the foundation of our good relations”. The two countries have also made great strides in transforming their relationship, because they share a commitment “to freedom, democracy and the rule of law”. The July 2005 Bush-Manmohan agreement is described as a “roadmap” that should enable India to “shoulder global obligations.”
The reference to Pakistan is brief and in passing. In fact, America’s limited agenda with Pakistan comes out when the document declares that “America’s relations with Pakistan will not be a mirror image of our relations with India.” So much for our expectations from the US. The usual nod to democracy is, however, reflected in the paper, when it states “we are eager to see Pakistan move along a stable, secure and democratic path.”
This strategy paper is important not only for the information that it contains but also because it reveals the philosophy that is likely to guide this administration for the rest of its term.
By Tariq Fatemi
The section on China, India and Pakistan merits special attention. The first occupies considerable space, reflective of America’s growing concern over China’s increasing global influence. It is treated with some deference, when it is called upon to act “as a responsible member of the international community as it becomes a global power”. China is, nevertheless, accused of continuing to “hold on to old ways of thinking and acting, that exacerbates concerns throughout the world”. These are listed as continuing military expansion; aggressive trade policy; “locking” up energy supplies and supporting oppressive regimes. While the administration will continue “to encourage China to make the right strategic choices”, the US is prepared to act “against other possibilities.”
India, not surprisingly, receives the kind of praise and adulation that now emanates regularly from Washington. India is “a great democracy” with which their “shared values are the foundation of our good relations”. The two countries have also made great strides in transforming their relationship, because they share a commitment “to freedom, democracy and the rule of law”. The July 2005 Bush-Manmohan agreement is described as a “roadmap” that should enable India to “shoulder global obligations.”
The reference to Pakistan is brief and in passing. In fact, America’s limited agenda with Pakistan comes out when the document declares that “America’s relations with Pakistan will not be a mirror image of our relations with India.” So much for our expectations from the US. The usual nod to democracy is, however, reflected in the paper, when it states “we are eager to see Pakistan move along a stable, secure and democratic path.”
This strategy paper is important not only for the information that it contains but also because it reveals the philosophy that is likely to guide this administration for the rest of its term.
#195 Posted by KaalChakra on March 31, 2006 8:32:34 pm
Too much pessimism, too much rancor :)
Let`s acknowledge that there is nothing purely good, nothing purely evil.
A simple approach should calm our nerves without incapacitating us - Hope, aim, and work for the best. Always, always prepare for the worst.
In other words: Love all, trust none. Love thy neighbor. Always, always lock thine door.
Let`s acknowledge that there is nothing purely good, nothing purely evil.
A simple approach should calm our nerves without incapacitating us - Hope, aim, and work for the best. Always, always prepare for the worst.
In other words: Love all, trust none. Love thy neighbor. Always, always lock thine door.
#193 Posted by bharath on March 31, 2006 6:34:38 pm
Dimwit HP terrorist`s postings in this site show why the Puke-is-tan is in its present state of affairs. Hopeless.
>rsridhar
you wrote:
``So, if Pak takes jehad to rest of India, in the new geopolitical climate, Pak would in all probability be labelled a terrorist nation. I don`t have to tell u what will happen to Paki economy after that``
Kinda agree, but we shouldn`t depend on others labelling puke-is-tan as a terrorist state.
We have been multi-religious, multi-ethnic secular democracy for 60 yrs, but US,and UK did not sart singing our praise until our economy picked up. (Even accepting that India was pro-Soviet) both of them vigorusly propped the fascist religious fanatic state of puke until 1999 and they still do. Without the Christian whiteman`s alms where would HP and his cuntry men be?The key is to relentlessly focus on economic development, decrease the economic wealth differences/ disparities b/w diverse regions, segments of our society.
>rsridhar
you wrote:
``So, if Pak takes jehad to rest of India, in the new geopolitical climate, Pak would in all probability be labelled a terrorist nation. I don`t have to tell u what will happen to Paki economy after that``
Kinda agree, but we shouldn`t depend on others labelling puke-is-tan as a terrorist state.
We have been multi-religious, multi-ethnic secular democracy for 60 yrs, but US,and UK did not sart singing our praise until our economy picked up. (Even accepting that India was pro-Soviet) both of them vigorusly propped the fascist religious fanatic state of puke until 1999 and they still do. Without the Christian whiteman`s alms where would HP and his cuntry men be?The key is to relentlessly focus on economic development, decrease the economic wealth differences/ disparities b/w diverse regions, segments of our society.
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