Blowing Up People and Property is Not Islam

Oh well ... guess our resident paper-fire theorist (I hesitate to use HP`s description) has been soundly defeated, plus this board is now in the morgue ... so till the time another looney pops up, here`s the last word:

This is how flight 93 (i.e. the top movie of the year according to Time magazine) fell!

Let`s Roll!!!!! My foot ...

does zeemax live in the UK? brit-pakis, in addition to being dead last in education and employment, are also more likely to be conspiracy kooks..(and of course, suicide bombers)...

Their views on the cartoons reflect the increasing islamofascist tendencies of the world`s muslims...

Poll shows Muslims in Britain are the most anti-western in Europe

Attitude resembles public opinion in Islamic nations
· British show greatest mismatch of feelings

Julian Borger in Washington
Friday June 23, 2006
The Guardian

Public opinion in Britain is mostly favourable towards Muslims, but the feeling is not requited by British Muslims, who are among the most embittered in the western world, according to a global poll published yesterday.

The poll, by the Washington-based Pew Global Attitudes Project, asked Muslims and non-Muslims about each other in 13 countries. In most, it found suspicion and contempt to be mostly mutual, but uncovered a significant mismatch in Britain.
The poll found that 63% of all Britons had a favourable opinion of Muslims, down slightly from 67% in 2004, suggesting last year`s London bombings did not trigger a significant rise in prejudice. Attitudes in Britain were more positive than in the US, Germany and Spain (where the popularity of Muslims has plummeted to 29%), and about the same as in France.

Less than a third of British non-Muslims said they viewed Muslims as violent, significantly fewer than non-Muslims in Spain (60%), Germany (52%), the US (45%) and France (41%).

By contrast, the poll found that British Muslims represented a ``notable exception`` in Europe, with far more negative views of westerners than Islamic minorities elsewhere on the continent. A significant majority viewed western populations as selfish, arrogant, greedy and immoral. Just over half said westerners were violent. While the overwhelming majority of European Muslims said westerners were respectful of women, fewer than half British Muslims agreed. Another startling result found that only 32% of Muslims in Britain had a favourable opinion of Jews, compared with 71% of French Muslims.

Across the board, Muslim attitudes in Britain more resembled public opinion in Islamic countries in the Middle East and Asia than elsewhere in Europe. And on the whole, British Muslims were more pessimistic than those in Germany, France and Spain about the feasibility of living in a modern society while remaining devout.

The Pew poll found that British Muslims are far more likely than their European counterparts to harbour conspiracy theories about the September 11 attacks. Only 17% believed that Arabs were involved, compared with 48% in France.

There was general agreement that relations are bad, but Britons as a whole were much less likely than other Europeans to blame Muslims. More Britons faulted westerners (27%) than Muslims (25%), with a third saying both are equally responsible. British Muslims were less ambivalent. Nearly half blamed westerners. By comparison, in Germany and France both communities blamed each other in roughly equal measure.

Unlike the rest of Europe, a majority of Britons declared themselves sympathetic to Muslims offended by the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in the European press last year. But most Britons said the outbreak of violence was the result of Muslim intolerance for western freedom of expression. Only 9% of British Muslims agreed with that view. Nearly three-quarters blamed the controversy on western disrespect of Islam.

While finding ample confirmation of the rift between Muslims and non-Muslims around the world, the poll did find some signs of encouragement.

``Confidence in Osama bin Laden has ... fallen in most Muslim countries in recent years,`` the survey concluded. That was particularly true in Jordan, where 24% expressed confidence in the al-Qaida leader, compared with 60% a year ago.

Support for suicide bombing has also plummeted in Jordan, Pakistan and Indonesia. In Pakistan now, 69% said the terrorist tactic was never justified, compared with 38% four years ago.

brother HP i am not recommending anything, you are in august company.

Okay on jang`s recommendation, we agree that the paper fires brought down WTC north and south:) There was no plane or even a paper fire in WTC 7, what happened to that?

One theory is that it came down because of the impact of the other falling WTC N and S but why not other buildings on the South, North and the East side of the WTC. Why only WTC 7? WTC 7 was the newest building on the block. Nothing happened to the other buildings but WTC 7 came down like a house of cards.

I got to hand it this choot for coming up with the theory that the Paper fires brought down all three WTC building. This was the first one I have read or heard.

This ahole is so clueless….. The paper fire theory ha ha ha!

http://pewresearch.org/reports/?ReportID=28

brother Zee and bother HP are not alone in their suspicion of the jews,

``In one of the survey`s most striking findings, majorities in Indonesia, Turkey, Egypt, and Jordan say that they do not believe groups of Arabs carried out the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Anti-Jewish sentiment remains overwhelming in predominantly Muslim countries.
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#286:

arjun_m:

ROFL.. that was very funny.. :-)

Zeemax probably thinks we`re living in a zionist created matrix..If the majority of terrorists in the world are muslims, that`s only because the zionist agents who created the matrix programmed it to be so..

he`s waiting for an Islamic morpheus(mohammederpheus?) to give him a blue pill and free him from the matrix...free from the matrix` mind control, he`ll get a chance to see the real world..the real world where 9/11 was a zionist plot and muslims are the ones valiantly defending life liberty and the pursuit of happiness..

maybe they should make a movie about it..the islamic matrix...I can see joe pantoliano looking at a stream of binary characters and saying ``I just see it as zionist, hindu, kaafir, ahmedi``

For flashes around the buildings, watch from minute 9:00 onwards.

Enjoy!

#270 by AlephNull

...the aircraft typically buries itself in a compact hole in the ground...

Ok Ok. But shouldn`t that hole be soaked with oil, fuel, hydraulic fluid and the sort? Maybe it was cleaned up for the ceremony in the picture ... but not even discoloration? C`mon, don`t be such a miser. At-least grant me some discoloration of the soil even if the wide body jet burrowed into the ground like a weasel ...

contd ... #282 by zeemax

And don`t forget the unsual shorting of airline stocks in the week before. No one disputes it happened though different silly reasons are brought forth to explain it away. And Mr. Silverstein, the little grey-haired owner of WTC insuring the entire complex a fortnight ago for a couple of cool billion dollars plus inserting some key clauses covering ``simultaneous`` collapses through terrorist attacks ... the likelihood quite remote so propbably saved on the premiums as well. In the end, some smart Jew boys made a hell of a lot of money out of the entire deal.

BTW, I don`t subscribe to the rumour that Jews were forewarned and didn`t show up for work that day. That is unsubstantiated. Just thought to let you know if it makes you feel good.

#271 by tahmed32

Tahmed, I have nothing against Jews or any other ethnic varieties. However keeping in mind that Israel has always been prepared to go to any extent to remove the slightest threat no matter how small, PLUS its widespread use of non-conventional & technology based covert methods, PLUS the US Jews maniacal support regardless of whatever, PLUS lots of unexplained internal security failures; they are the most likely people to have dunnit.

...ben laden laughing and joking about 9/11...

Yeah he too was gesturing and joking about how come the towers came straight down instead of one tipping over the other ...

...the Israelis fooled the US but didnt fool Zeemax... but you also know more than the US government about the role of the Israelis in all this!!

Noone fooled anyone except the soft-in-the-heads like the ones on this board. And who, pray I ask, is the US Government? It is nothing more than an extension of Israel itself. As you doubtless know the entire neo-con thingy is invented by and run by Jews loyal to Israel within the present US administration. Israelis didn`t fool the US Government because they didn`t have to. They just went ahead and did it because they knew US would have no choice but to go along. After all, what do you expect US to do ? Attack Israel? Israelis have the US by the gonads and the US knows it very well.

What did you have for breakfast this morning??

Pretzels.

#275 by HP (Also for Mr. AlephNull`s consumption).

LoL .. Thanks HP. Yep, the paper fires brought down WTC ... and these were built of lightweight materials (also WT7?) ... and yes 110 floors `cascaded` down in 13 seconds ...

Hmm .. lemme see ... a bit of math. The rubble pile was I guess maybe 8-10 storeys high. That would leave 100 floors to cascade and free fall one after the other as he says `` The pancaking wouldn’t need prior weakening throughout the building`` and ``It would not have been designed to withstand a 100,000 tonne-plus sledgehammer (the weight of 30–plus floors – an increasing number/force as the cascade picks up momentum) smashing down floor after floor.

Fine. I`ll buy that. So we arrive at the structure wasn`t weakened, one floor fell on top of the other and the building turned to fine dust. But what about 13 seconds? How much time per floor will you allow for the `sledgehammer` to slice through 100 floors? 1 second? But that would take 100 seconds. Half a second? Still not good enough. One quarter of a second? Still that makes 25 seconds. So it`ll have to be 1/8th or 0.125 of a second per floor on average.

Let`s compare that to the average time it takes for the blink of an eye i.e. 3/10ths to 4/10ths of a second i.e. 0.3 to 0.4 of a second.

So, according to Mr. AlephNull, each floor cascaded at three times the speed of the blink of an eye to the one below and so on for the balance 99 floors. Is that what he would like us to believe? However I am encouraged to see he would believe it if the entire process took ``twenty`` blinks instead of the actual `thirty``.

I would rather believe in Santa Claus and the 19 easter bunnies!

Re: # 279
Not for nothing is is known as the Hate Pot ...

Re: # 275
HP
AlephNull did not say that steel melts at 600-700 degrees. If you can`t distinguish between melting and losing structural strength perhaps you should not add that point to your inane arguments.

Well, at least there is hope for the Germans. They are waking up to the likes our buddy Zeemax here…..

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German `Muslim test` stirs anger

Some excerpts

They consist of 30 questions which can be put to applicants for German citizenship to see if they share democratic values...

The questions, which have been leaked to the German media, cover a range of subjects. A few examples:

• How do you view the statement that a woman should obey her husband, and that he can beat her if she doesn`t?



• You learn that people from your neighbourhood or from among friends or acquintances have carried out or are planning a terrorist attack - what do you do?



• Some people hold the Jews responsible for all the evil in the world, and even claim they were behind the attacks of 11 September 2001 in New York. What is your view of this claim?



• Imagine that your son comes to you and declares that he`s a homosexual and would like to live with another man. How do you react?





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Inquirer: Alaska!! Have a great vacation. I shall try to hold the fort - or the bridge - in the meantime. :-)