Thirty Six Murders in Search of a Resignation

Re: # 38zeena

well zeena i dont think you should blame sheeren rehman for that. if you look the video a bit closely you would see that she was actually gonna push the hand of the man back.

Re: # 38

Hi Zeena,

The clip is simply horrible.

However, I do not ``expect`` any apology from either of the two main characters. (Not that I wouldn`t like them to apologize in public & then never seek a position of any kind).

Our politicians are not made answerable to public. The constitution, norms, ethics are simply disregarded by these people. A politician would fear from public response if he/she knows that he/she`ll have to turn to the people after five years. Luckily, they never had to till now!

I believe that such behaviour as recorded on this tape could not go unnoticed in today`s Pakistan. It`s only that our people need to get a chance to hold the ruling elite accountable for their blunders; moral, financial, economic & strategic.


Regards,
Jawwad.

Either this video is rape...if, sheree rehman is not giving a consent to that. But, is happily surrendering in front of her rapist......And tragedy is, even rapists don`t committ such crime in public.....
But, here in this video, this monster is openly committing this crime of raping a fellow politician.................How can I trust this lady to be a role model for Pakistani women?, who
doesn`t have a courage to stand up for herself....how will she stand up for the rights of poor and oppressed pakistani women?

Now, other scenario is, if this is not rape...if, Sheree rehman and that monster ( two adults) have mutual consent of comitting this adultry in public....then why in public? Why are they so desperate?

On one end they are leading this procession for the freedom of Pakistan for democracy, on the other hand they are showing real freedom...yes, freedom for openly comitting adultry.....and both of them are the best role models...and leaders...leaders, my foot.....

Now, go figure out either this is rape or adultry?

Being Pakistani prominent leaders, they are answerable to such sexually perverted behaviour.......in front of Pakistanis people`s court.....

Pakistani nation needs their explanation.......their time is up.....and this is called real democracy.....

#36 aquaris

Such a public display of such vulgarity.....
This woman whoever she is letting that corrupt man besides him making those kind of advances in public......

Just look @ her face, her flirtacious gestures , smile and then shyness.....as if she is used to of such sexual abuse daily by her co politicians(PPP) and others.
It looks like she has become a toy of sexual pleasure for all these men right over there......

If, she wouldn`t have been happier, she should have had slapped right on the face of that Bas*ta*d.........and would have sued that SOB for publicly sexually harrassing her and exploiting her......she just smiled and instead combed her hair with her hands as if she wellcomed that perverted man`s sexual advances...................

This woman and man are a slap on the faces of Pakistani politicians.................bizaare....

Anyway, My message is not burqa, my message is , if, some people make fun of brave burqa clads with all the piousness and call them names in every post.....

Why are they silent for this so called MODERN Pakistani MNA?...Modern...my foot.
Even prostitutes don`t get involved for such a public display......

This pervert woman and the pervert man leading Pakistan and don`t have any character left...Such a public display with no shame....instead smiling........

Burqa or not burqa......that means nothing.....that is one`s choice.....
Main thing is how you carry yourself? How you display your character in private and in public?

Sheree Rehman and the man are appropriately dressed up,but, look @ the sexual perversion.....exhibitionist.....this is such a tragedy that Pakistanis have to accept such pathetic losers as their leaders........

In private, you are answerable to yourself and to God(Almighty) and in public you are answerable to God(Almighty), to yourself and to public.......

But, I am sure Pakistanis won`t say a thing about such a great displall accept it and not only that these two man and woman will win the election and will be Pakistani leaders........

Such a low class behaviour shows your background......

I showed this video to some of my colleagues in USA today and all of them were shocked and said,``oh, well why Pakistan has suck sickos as their leaders?Why this perverted woman is enojying such a public display? why she didn`t slap this man? why she didn`t call the police? Why she let herself sexually abused in public?``

I told them,``b/c Pakistanis are innocent nation, they think this is modesty and this modernism``.

I hope you got the message.......

Re: # 35

abhorable......utterly disgusting...


But I think Sherry was caught in a SITUATION.....

Lookl at the Guy with the Cap, he is trying to Press in, also the guy on the right, is cornering her.

...Its a Part of PPP culture, this shameless, ......whatever....

....in the 70`s when this downward slide or the nations morals was delibrately , induced.

Bohri Bazar , Karachi is witness to a Lot of such incident, when the rowdy, PPP jiyalas will
Bump and try to take advantage of the crowded and cornered, girls and womens, Many a time, the shopkeepers , would catch such a filthy Mind, ......and then the whole crowd
will give a DUE `` CHITROL `` to the Scum.

But times have changed, at that Time, the Scum cuaght would knew he has done something wrong, and would not resist much during the `` Chitrol ``, .... But Now, If you catch any one , doing such thing,....... He Might snap back, as if its his right, and you may even get a more voilent reaction , for example, he may take out a TT, or Gun , in response, and compromise the security all around.

This is the worst, Bhutto induced in the pakistiani polity, along with the Complete Break down of Education system [..... nationalization .....] , in the 70`s,

and has been in the PPP culture since then.

... and actually I feel sorry for Sherry to cuaght in such a ........... cornered .....
situation.

But then I also think she should have , reacted and given an appropriate response .....
which she didn`t ...... at least , not in the video ...

hassanmahmood sahib
Again, I also feel ashamed to see such corrupt politicians as PPP`s Sheere rehman...
This woman is a disgrace to all Pakistan......and the man besides her is also a curse to the politicians..

Just look @ the video..in which sheere Rehman is exposed to her filth...But that doesn`t mean that we should lose hope, we still should still srtive for democracy and trust me that`s the only way to filter these curses like Sheere Rehamn and the filthy man besides her.....these shameless creatures with such a display in public........tsk,tsk,tsk......

pathetic...



They are so desperate..........this is simply disgusting....

Re: #33
jzaki sahib

Ditto!!!

Well said my friend.

Re: # 31

``That is why my dear friend - Pakistanis dont DESERVE democracy.``

My friend,

So many words to reach a conclusion that is not your sole prerogative!!!

If Americans still support Bush even after realizing to some extent what has been happening in Iraq (Bush`s approval ratings were 28% last week), this does not imply what your message is trying.

When we criticize our people for electing the same politicians over and over again, we ignore the fact that democracy is an evolutionary process. Let the poeple of Pakistan give a chance to see their elected government to the end of it`s constitutional term. People would see and filtering would take effect. However, thanks to all this meddling by the ruling elite of Pakistan, that chance never came. Look back and see how many ``normal & constitutional`` transfer of power events are there in our 60 or so years.

What you are saying is exactly the excuse given by each dictator (in Pakistan & in other places as well!)

So,

Let the people decide what they want. Let the system evolve for good!

Take Care.

p.s. A really good writing Mr. Jamalvi.

#31 hasanmahmood sahib
Sorry to say na for my disappointment you are taking an open side for the violence of MQM here. What I am seeing in this tape is few people ( Who knows from which side) are just defending themselves.....

This whole violence was started by MQM. And I will never buy that MQM is innocent. This tape has convinced me more about MQM`s open violence against innocent poor Pakistanis.

Again, I am not from PPP or any party. But, it is strange that how you`re defending MQM for such brutality? sad, v.sad.

Yes, I understand the problems with some prties in Pakistan, but, that doesn`y mean Pakistanis are incapable of handling democracy. No , I won`t buy your ideology. Sorr.
Democracy in it`s worst form is better than any dictatorship...period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72k5JPvXhHg

At exactly 2:32 of the tape watch Sheree Rehamn enjoying the terror with her cronies on her side.......


Zeena and Urstruly, MQM has sent that tape to every news channel. It was shown by GEO and ARY. However because it is showing armed people standing on thee car of Sheeren Rehman while she and one other PPP minister are giving orders for those people to shoot on the crowd, thee news channels will be wary to show it every day. However in that video you cann see the people being pointed out and shown to belong to PPP. So that is the proof. Not Imran Khan (who has exactly one seat in the assemblies) shouting at the top of his lung or MMA denying the fact that they sent hooligans to create chaos in Karachi. I like Imran Khan but can someone ask him whether he will sue BB now that the video is out or is he going to hang on to their coattails for another seat in the next elections.
Zeena, the reason why I consider Pakistani incapable of handling democracy is because I have seen the proof. I have seen these people shout for BB and Nawaz even after what they did. I have seen these people with no civic sense. I have seen these mullahs rape our country to no extent. And you know what the politicians are still not satisfied. The problem is people of Pakistan have shown again and again that they do NOT deserve democracy. What they need is education, eradication of jageerdaars and vaderaas, and peace. What they need is common sense as to why they should not vote for corrupt people and the common sense to realize that if BB says that all cases against her are fabricated then she is lying. What these people need is basic civic sense to keep their country clean and healthy. What they need is to learn to love each other. What they dont need is people like us (well to do urbanites no offense to anyone intended) shouting democracy to them while sipping lattes and watching gora movies. These are the realities. What has democracy given to these poor people. Oh of course people visitng Karachi Gymkhana every day enjoyed calling their gora friends and telling them which NGO they belonged to or how they helped in achieving that democracy but tell me the truth. Do you really think a common poor person of Pakistan was better off during Nawaz and BB democracy or are they better off now.
And if talking about poor people is out of fashion nowadays, lets talk about teachers and professors. During BB and Nawaz, great minds of our country were forcefully retired and given nowhere to implement or teach their ideas. I know a lot of professors who were doing reasearch in US because they were treated as sewer rats by those governments. This government has brought those great minds back. The amount of research that is going on in the country was never to that level ever. If you want proof, I will provide it to you.
Forget teachers and professor, because they were never important to our society at least not when Bhutto was the prime minister. He just went ahead and nationalized every school.
Lets talk about all the economic factors. You say we are better off because America gave us aid. Well America would have given us aid no matter who the leader would be if we helped America. The only difference is with Nawaz and BB we would be looking at Raiwind Estate II and Surrey Palace II for her daughter. People would never see a penny of it. At least now when you travel on Karachi roads and look at the development you see where the money is going. At least now there is no jahil Sindhi sitting at the airport ripping apart travel documents of innocent Karaichiites who just want to go back to their jobs in the West.
Regarding MQM, I have no problems seeing them punished severly if they are involved. However, for that to happen, BB should be punished for the genocide she committed and Nawa should be punished for looting Pakistan`s wealth, and MMA should be punished for - well just being MMA, but that is the tragedy of Pakistan. Our own people, even after getting raped by these politicians will get up and won`t let those politicians be judged and punished. That is why my dear friend - Pakistanis dont DESERVE democracy.

Re:#28 hasanmahmood sahib

Please, show me the video of the proof of PPP or any other party involved in Karachi massacre of poor innocent Pakistanis. Thanks

Now, let me make it very very very clear here on an open forum.

I hate anyone , any party whether PPP, Muslim league or MQM who are involved in any kind of dirty politics. I am not with corrupt PPP, corrutp Muslim league or any other corrupt parties of Pakistan.

I am just a well wisher for the poor innocent people of this unfortuante country, called Pakistan in which MQM, dictators, PPP,
uslim league etc, etc, etc have all done their job very well to make Pakistan # 1 corrupt country in the world.

But, the recent killings of MQM and the open support of MQM for musharaf( the dictator) will always be remembered as the masacre of poor oppressed people.......

Why Musharaf`s govt. was unable to stop killings of those innocent ones? Where was the military when we need the military the most? Where was Pakistani Police?
In all these videos open shottings have had been going on for the whole day...And cruel thing is not even a single person from army or Police came to rescue Karachi`s poor people....Why?

And now you`re comparing MQM`s violent actions with other parties...
C`mon give me a break......

Why do you think Pakistanis are not able to handle democracy? Why?
Why do you look down upon your own fellow country men?
Why do you consider Pakistanis should be treated like slaves under the dictator`s tyranny?

Why do you consider Pakistanis as less of humans?

And since when Pakistanis have been given any chance to taste the real democracy?
Always, dictators have had been enslaving Pakistanis minds, they never let them flourish,b/c it they would then there won`t be any place for them in Pakistan, there won`t be any tyranny.........

Let`s start from 1947....Ayub,Yukhwah,Zia, musharaf.........all these cruel dictators didi their worst jobs to make Pakistan the way it is right now.

All of them came , invaded Pakistan and then looted and plundered and killed innocent people and their next generations are living like kings and queens.......

These are the tragedies of pakistan...
But, it doesn`t mean that pakistanis should give up......they should fight for their freedom from the claws of tyrants like Musharaf backed up by MQM....
They should continue the process of democracy without halting......and at the end by ultrafilteration fair democracy will come out.......

If, we don`t give people chance and strat bombarding them with bombs of martial law and it`s allied parties like MQM, then how come we predict that Pakistanis are unable to handle democracy....

Pakistanis are not mentally handicapped, for heaven`s sake.....

Re: # 28

Is that video proof, that you are referring to, available on the net eg on Youtube etc.

Zeena your #25 post is wrong on many counts. Now that the video proof is out that it was PPP involved in the killings, why dont you write another reply now saying the same things about PPP. Or is that ok? PPP being involved in genocide during BB`s first regime is OK? Sheeri Rehman`s cronies firing on innocent people is OK? I know you hate MQM and Musharaf, but did MQM give the gun also to Shiree Rehman`s people to fire on MQMs supporters.
And Zeena, PPP has killed people close to me NOT MQM. So dont start blaming every killing on MQM. Look at the facts. That is the tragedy that Pakistan faces. We learn words like Democracy, and freedom in American Government and Politics 101 in any US college and then come here and show people how Western our thoughts are. Once again, I dont care if you blame MQM for every bad thing that has happened in Pakistan. Blame them for Bhutto hanging. Blame them for BB`s brother`s murder. Blame them for Zardari`s corruption. Blame them for BB`s lack of intelect. Blame them for everything. But also blame PPP with the same vigor when the proof comes out......

Pakistanis have all the rights to enjoy the very taste of democracy in it`s real sense with all it`s spirits. And why not? Each and every Pakistani is deprived of this taste for such a long time that they even forgot what is the actual taste of real and true democracy is? Majority of them even stopped thinking freely in terms of democracy. All these dictators (the vampires) sabotaged democracy for their tyranny.

Pakistanis should know that the real democracy is for the people, by the people with free judiciary. They should know that the only voice of poor and common people is the voice of democracy.

Army Generals hang democracy with their ruthless claws and suck the blood of poor Pakistanis to make them dead nation and they have partially succeeded in making them zombies with no voice, but, to act and dance at the tunes of army dictators.

MQM has played the major role in establishing Zia and then Musharaf....

So, the right way is to let democracy flourish in Pakistan with all it`s honesty...Army Generals don`t even give Pakistanis any chance to feel this beautiful thing, called democracy and they always are ready to rule Pakistan.....How much more Pakistanis could be stupid?

Pakistanis have become toys in the cruel hands of these dictators....Pakistanis need liberty, freedom from martial law and those ugly monsters, called President/Army chief.

Time has come for Pakistanis to learn tolerance and accept democracy as their savior, the only way they can be safe and free and only way they can progress...and the only way, they can practice their own faiths freely without fear of any kind.....


This is the current situation of martial law in Pakistan, it is just like a volcano...in which people`s emotion get blocked and suppressed and then at the end this volcano bursts and eats up everything in it`s way.....Just wait and see... Pakistanis will eat up this martial law.

Pakistanis run for your lives.......Musharaf will eat you all up.....break this false idol, called musharaf with your unity and discipline.....
Musharaf has already eaten up hundreds of innocent and poor Pakistanis..a wolf in the garb of army dictator.......a sucker....

Here is anothe utube about Karachi on May 12th.......

Courtsey of Geo Tv......



Even now, people are supporting those brutal actions of MQM.....I believe whoever supports those actions is equally brutal and is equally murderer.......

#24
Sir
You have gone way ,too far in supporting barbaric MQM`s violence against innocent people........

So, all your post means that Karachi is oNLY for MQM....Great....Karachi si MQM`s property...great.
So, all you`re saying is that Pakistan is only safe,b/c of MQM...What a logic!
Alright, for few seconds I agree with you....
MQM is great, MQM is liberal(LOL)..MQM is the only tolerant party in Pakistan.All Pakistan`s progress is only b/c of MQM.....

But, my question is, then why MQM killed and brutalied hundreds of poor innocent Pakistanis?
WhyMQM is acting like Hindus/Indians considering other Pakistanis as their enemies?
MQM is the grand creation of General Zia ul Haq...and everyone knows that. Zia ul Huq made MQM just to break PPP.....And gave MQM every chance to flourish...

Now, MQM is being nurtured by another dictator Musharaf....
On one end MQM calls itself democratic party and on the other end backs up Zia and Musharaf....Who is fooling whom here?
Who is hypocrite here? who is ignorant here?...Just hink about it.

I can tolerate every hypocrisy done by MQM...And in the past I have never ever criticised MQM...
But, MQM has out date Dracula and has butchered innocent Pakistanis....And here you have all the nerves to suport them...What kind of human can support murderers?


I will never ever support murderers even,if, they are my own family memebers....This is called humanity.
And here you are in each and every thread blindly supporting MQM`sd criminal actions.....

Sorry, MQM needs to be banned.Enough is enough and all of their leaders should be hanged till death for killing innocent lives.......

Wha,if, they would have killed your close family members? Just think about it.
Karachi is an integral part of Pakistan.Each and every Pakistani has every right to belong to Karachi equally.......