Saeed Minhas September 11, 2007
#59 Posted by NaghmaSanj on September 19, 2007 11:06:52 am
Interesting story, but Richard Boucher is only a messenger. I missed a mention of his master, John Negroponte, a jewish American, dual citizen of Israel, and former US intelligence czar (21 April 2005 - 13 Feb 2007) who was pulling the strings mainly on behalf of Israel. Negroponte has a history of supporting repressive governments and turning a blind eye to human rights abuse and other lawless activities.
Negroponte has also worked closely with Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, while Muqrin was the Saudi intelligence chief (October 2005 - now), and Muqrin's presence in Pakistan was also on behalf of Israel-US. The Israeli hand is also evident from Benazir's recent meeting in the US with Zalmay Khalilzad (who hand picked Karzai and Nouri Al Malki) and even Israel's Ambassador to the UN, Dan Gillerman.
The chairman of the American Jewish Congress, Jack Rosen, who welcomed the meeting between Ms. Bhutto and Gillerman, has visited General Musharraf in Islamabad in the spring of 2005. And who can forget what Israel's then Foreign Minister, and now President, Shimon Peres said in November 2001: "I never thought that as a good Jewish boy, I will go to bed praying for the long life of the President of Pakistan."
Negroponte has also worked closely with Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, while Muqrin was the Saudi intelligence chief (October 2005 - now), and Muqrin's presence in Pakistan was also on behalf of Israel-US. The Israeli hand is also evident from Benazir's recent meeting in the US with Zalmay Khalilzad (who hand picked Karzai and Nouri Al Malki) and even Israel's Ambassador to the UN, Dan Gillerman.
The chairman of the American Jewish Congress, Jack Rosen, who welcomed the meeting between Ms. Bhutto and Gillerman, has visited General Musharraf in Islamabad in the spring of 2005. And who can forget what Israel's then Foreign Minister, and now President, Shimon Peres said in November 2001: "I never thought that as a good Jewish boy, I will go to bed praying for the long life of the President of Pakistan."
#58 Posted by tahmed32 on September 16, 2007 3:38:58 pm
teshah #56: The honor would be mine to meet you, I am sure. However, I do not live in Islamabad, but half way around the world, in the US. But as you can see from my participation in chowk - Pakistan has and will remain close to my heart.
#57 Posted by teshah on September 14, 2007 7:50:22 pm
Re: # 51
Ananth07
"f it is war on terror being fought, the Saudi royals are a wrong allies to have on the side of America and Pakistan ."
It is quite understandable. All rulers want status quo and stability. Mush feels terrified by NS as he disturbs his stability and Saudi Harramin are disturbed by Osama bin Laden (Previously by Saddam also) . America is helping both
by containing these 'terrors' by mutual arrangement.
As for the carnage of innocent people America is the greatest terrorist itself. So why be surprised at their collusion.
Ananth07
"f it is war on terror being fought, the Saudi royals are a wrong allies to have on the side of America and Pakistan ."
It is quite understandable. All rulers want status quo and stability. Mush feels terrified by NS as he disturbs his stability and Saudi Harramin are disturbed by Osama bin Laden (Previously by Saddam also) . America is helping both
by containing these 'terrors' by mutual arrangement.
As for the carnage of innocent people America is the greatest terrorist itself. So why be surprised at their collusion.
#56 Posted by teshah on September 14, 2007 7:00:44 pm
Re: # 55 (cntinued)
I tried it again by deleting the message. Let us see what happens. The problem is they don't show it in review that one should know what is going to be posted.
Tahmad Mian you perhps live in Islamabad. If so, can I have the honour to meet you?
I tried it again by deleting the message. Let us see what happens. The problem is they don't show it in review that one should know what is going to be posted.
Tahmad Mian you perhps live in Islamabad. If so, can I have the honour to meet you?
#55 Posted by teshah on September 14, 2007 6:37:00 pm
Re: # 54
tahmed
Thank you dear for adopting the quote and guiding me to get rid of it! I have already tried this. Let me see if it appears again.
Sorry! I should have said 'Readers might be bored by too much repetition of the quote' instead of saying 'I am bored'.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
tahmed
Thank you dear for adopting the quote and guiding me to get rid of it! I have already tried this. Let me see if it appears again.
Sorry! I should have said 'Readers might be bored by too much repetition of the quote' instead of saying 'I am bored'.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
#54 Posted by tahmed32 on September 14, 2007 6:27:59 am
#49 teshah: Since you are getting bored with the automatic signature, I have adopted it. :-)
In return, here is how you get rid of it: Click on "Account Settings" (top right), then on "Settings" tab, and you should see the textbox titled "Signature" with these wise words waiting to be deleted by you.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
In return, here is how you get rid of it: Click on "Account Settings" (top right), then on "Settings" tab, and you should see the textbox titled "Signature" with these wise words waiting to be deleted by you.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
#53 Posted by sam67 on September 14, 2007 4:48:48 am
there is still lots of surprises to come so keep your seat belts on as we are heading for a rocky terrain and those who will have strong nerves would survive. so stay put for the time being
#52 Posted by VRV on September 14, 2007 12:25:49 am
We have Rabri Devi in Sehba Musharraf. She'd be the cover for Musharraf if/when SC declares him as ineligible 4 Prez 'elections'. So Musharraf is a neo-laloo.
Mr. TE Shah,
I's wondering why u say that all the time (the caption). Though it made perfect sense but its repetition wondered me.
Now, it's a bug, I guess.
Mr. TE Shah,
I's wondering why u say that all the time (the caption). Though it made perfect sense but its repetition wondered me.
Now, it's a bug, I guess.
#51 Posted by Ananth07 on September 13, 2007 11:36:24 pm
Re # 45
Gen Musharaf has fashioned himself on Kemal Ataturk, but there has been no instances of Turkey sending its former PMs to Saudi Guantanamo. If it is war on terror being fought, the Saudi royals are a wrong allies to have on the side of America and Pakistan .
Gen Musharaf has fashioned himself on Kemal Ataturk, but there has been no instances of Turkey sending its former PMs to Saudi Guantanamo. If it is war on terror being fought, the Saudi royals are a wrong allies to have on the side of America and Pakistan .
#50 Posted by Ananth07 on September 13, 2007 11:12:19 pm
# Re no 45
What is the use of have nuclear bombs, if a country does not grow a strong spine, ie the institutions. After GOVT sending its former PM to the Saudi Guantanamo, how can Pakistani institutions survive, and without the institutions how can the country survive ?
What is the use of have nuclear bombs, if a country does not grow a strong spine, ie the institutions. After GOVT sending its former PM to the Saudi Guantanamo, how can Pakistani institutions survive, and without the institutions how can the country survive ?
#49 Posted by teshah on September 13, 2007 8:27:41 pm
I am fed up with this automatic signature quote at the bottom of my post. Will any chowky friend kindly tell me how to do away with it?
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
#48 Posted by teshah on September 13, 2007 7:36:16 pm
Re: # 45
NS's abortive trip to his homeland has done one great service: It has removed the sacred cloak from the Saudi Harramin and exposed the dagger beneath. The Saudi Harramin who had killed our beloved 'Khuda'to replace it with their revengeful Salfi Allah with the power of their petrodollars have now opened an Islamic Guantanamo for Pakies in the sacred land to help the rulers of their ilk. So the Paki Nation has now come to realize that the Wardi ruler of Pakiland and his henchmen can understand no other language than the language of the bullet.
Alas! The Pakistan of the Quaide Aazam has at last been turned into a real 'Yaakistan'(A lawless land); 'Inna lillah he wa inna illeh he raajioon'.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
NS's abortive trip to his homeland has done one great service: It has removed the sacred cloak from the Saudi Harramin and exposed the dagger beneath. The Saudi Harramin who had killed our beloved 'Khuda'to replace it with their revengeful Salfi Allah with the power of their petrodollars have now opened an Islamic Guantanamo for Pakies in the sacred land to help the rulers of their ilk. So the Paki Nation has now come to realize that the Wardi ruler of Pakiland and his henchmen can understand no other language than the language of the bullet.
Alas! The Pakistan of the Quaide Aazam has at last been turned into a real 'Yaakistan'(A lawless land); 'Inna lillah he wa inna illeh he raajioon'.
Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."
#46 Posted by sam67 on September 13, 2007 4:59:17 am
Re: # 42
dear jayp
when u r reporting an event u r supposed to quote and when u r writing a comment then u have to create your own, i hope u will agree. this was a report quoting sources to reveal what actually happend and how they substantiate it, one can differ with them but not in a report only in a comment. so i am sorry you will have to bear with this. regards
dear jayp
when u r reporting an event u r supposed to quote and when u r writing a comment then u have to create your own, i hope u will agree. this was a report quoting sources to reveal what actually happend and how they substantiate it, one can differ with them but not in a report only in a comment. so i am sorry you will have to bear with this. regards
#45 Posted by zeemax on September 13, 2007 4:25:37 am
These are extremely unusual circumstances for Pakistan. If that wasn't the case, Saudia would never have angered the Pakistani people through their direct intervention against the SC order. Tony Blair was right when just before leaving office, he suddenly showed up in Afghanistan and said to British troops that this war is not only for political or military victory, but for very survival and supremacy of the western civilization. The ones who lose this war will bear the consequences for not decades but centuries.
So, the struggle is between the Pro-War on terror forces, and those against it. Nawaz and Supreme Court of Pakistan are not big enough institutions not be sidelined in this struggle. Even bigger institutions will be sidelined in trying to win ... i.e. the entire Pakistan as we know it.
Nawaz is not unaware of the above, hence his lip service to support W.O.T on CNN a few days before his attempted return. Of-course it didn't work because US wouldn't trust an NS allied with the virulently anti-w.o.t MMA, as against a BB allied with musharraf. So, back he goes. SC or no SC.
So, the struggle is between the Pro-War on terror forces, and those against it. Nawaz and Supreme Court of Pakistan are not big enough institutions not be sidelined in this struggle. Even bigger institutions will be sidelined in trying to win ... i.e. the entire Pakistan as we know it.
Nawaz is not unaware of the above, hence his lip service to support W.O.T on CNN a few days before his attempted return. Of-course it didn't work because US wouldn't trust an NS allied with the virulently anti-w.o.t MMA, as against a BB allied with musharraf. So, back he goes. SC or no SC.
#44 Posted by rf786 on September 13, 2007 4:11:22 am
Re: # 13
Lord Nazir? Punjab Nazir is a better description. His (Agent Butt ooo Lord Nazir )presence at Isloo airport confirms the conspiracy theory regarding brits involvement.
Your explanation regarding the change of flight paths can mean only two things (1) NS lacks quite a few brain cells or (2) one sud seriousely doubt your intelligence or understanding of international affairs.
Lord Nazir? Punjab Nazir is a better description. His (Agent Butt ooo Lord Nazir )presence at Isloo airport confirms the conspiracy theory regarding brits involvement.
Your explanation regarding the change of flight paths can mean only two things (1) NS lacks quite a few brain cells or (2) one sud seriousely doubt your intelligence or understanding of international affairs.
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