Moeed Pirzada February 22, 2008
#9 Posted by lahorelaw on April 19, 2008 11:15:21 pm
Dear Dr. Moeed Pirzada
We read with great interest your articles. In today's Daily Times 'Murder, Media & Intolerance is really very timely. You must have seen our 'Politics of hate' at chowk.com that attracted very huge response.
Below is detail of some recent initiatives
Regards,
DR. IKRAMUL HAQ
LLD, MA, LLB
International Tax Counsel
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Lahore Law Associates
(member of HUZAIMA & IKRAM)
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Lahore-54770, Pakistan
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Subject: RE: How to come out of debt enslavement
Dear Ms Huzaima and Dr Ikram Sahib,
This is a very timely topic you have taken up. Swedish Social-Democracy is based on heavy taxation to support perhaps the most generous welfare system in the world - although the neo-liberal onslaught which is currently going on in the world has begun to make dents in it. But Swedish social-democracy was built by a mass, democratic movement of the working class that rejected the extreme measures and policies of orthodox communism in favour of democracy and reform. Without a strong social democratic party emerging in Pakistan the chances that our parasitical ruling elites will pursue radical taxation is rather small. But I am glad you are developing an argument in favour of taxation as a way of entitlements to services. This needs to be stressed.
Best regards,
Ishtiaq
Professor Ishtiaq AHMED :: Visiting Senior Research Fellow :: Institute of South Asian Studies (ISAS) :: 469A Bukit Timah Road, #07-01 Tower Block, National University of Singapore, Singapore 259770 :: 65-6516 8105 (DID) :: 65-6776 7505 / 65-6314 5447 (Fax) :: isasia@nus.edu.sg (Email) :: www.isas.nus.edu.sg (Website)
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Dear all
The article (link below) highlights the pro-elitist character of our tax system, where the poor are bearing the tax burden of the rich!. It is a national shame. It also suggests ways and means to remove dichotomies, distortions and anti-people biases in the prevailing tax system. Pakistan can easily overcome its fiscal deficit through alternative solutions and innovative means in the very next budget for 2008-09 provided the new coalition government shows political will, devise rational, pro-growth, equitable tax polices policies and implement them with the backing and support of all the stakeholders. The strongest resistance will certainly come from the rich lobby within the coalition partners, vested interest in Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) having unholy alliance with tax evaders and unscrupulous business giants. Intelligentsia, masses and civil society representatives will have to raise collective voice and exert pressure on these elements. We need to come out of debt enslavement and make Pakistan a self-reliant economic entity, which alone will free us from political subservience of Washington and its allies (beggars cannot be the chooser).
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=723071&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=723337&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate=
The other articles for your consideration are:
http://dawn.com/2008/04/11/op.htm#3
http://dawn.com/weekly/encounter/encounter3.htm
http://www.thenews.com.pk/editorial_detail.asp?id=106460
http://thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx?dtlid=154227&src=Huzaima%20Bukhari%20a nd%20Dr.%20Ikramul%20Haq&date=08/04/2008
http://thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx?dtlid=150983&src=Huzaima%20Bukhari%20a nd%20Dr.%20Ikramul%20Haq&date=21/03/2008
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=716185&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate
http://209.85.135.104/custom?q=cache:fe3L18s3r6UJ:www.eias.org/publications/bu lletin/2006/novdec06/EB_NovDec_06.PDF+dr,+Ikramul+Haq&hl=en&ct=clnk& cd=2
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/spedition/23march2008/index.html#4
We read with great interest your articles. In today's Daily Times 'Murder, Media & Intolerance is really very timely. You must have seen our 'Politics of hate' at chowk.com that attracted very huge response.
Below is detail of some recent initiatives
Regards,
DR. IKRAMUL HAQ
LLD, MA, LLB
International Tax Counsel
-----------------
Lahore Law Associates
(member of HUZAIMA & IKRAM)
167-G/I, Johar Town
Lahore-54770, Pakistan
Tel : (+92 42) 5300721 & 5304421
Fax: (+92 42) 5310721
Mob: (+92 300) 849 6205
website: http://www.huzaimaikram.com
email: ikram@huzaimaikram.com
Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you
Subject: RE: How to come out of debt enslavement
Dear Ms Huzaima and Dr Ikram Sahib,
This is a very timely topic you have taken up. Swedish Social-Democracy is based on heavy taxation to support perhaps the most generous welfare system in the world - although the neo-liberal onslaught which is currently going on in the world has begun to make dents in it. But Swedish social-democracy was built by a mass, democratic movement of the working class that rejected the extreme measures and policies of orthodox communism in favour of democracy and reform. Without a strong social democratic party emerging in Pakistan the chances that our parasitical ruling elites will pursue radical taxation is rather small. But I am glad you are developing an argument in favour of taxation as a way of entitlements to services. This needs to be stressed.
Best regards,
Ishtiaq
Professor Ishtiaq AHMED :: Visiting Senior Research Fellow :: Institute of South Asian Studies (ISAS) :: 469A Bukit Timah Road, #07-01 Tower Block, National University of Singapore, Singapore 259770 :: 65-6516 8105 (DID) :: 65-6776 7505 / 65-6314 5447 (Fax) :: isasia@nus.edu.sg (Email) :: www.isas.nus.edu.sg (Website)
ISAS is dedicated to the study of contemporary South Asia.
Important: This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify us immediately; you should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------
Dear all
The article (link below) highlights the pro-elitist character of our tax system, where the poor are bearing the tax burden of the rich!. It is a national shame. It also suggests ways and means to remove dichotomies, distortions and anti-people biases in the prevailing tax system. Pakistan can easily overcome its fiscal deficit through alternative solutions and innovative means in the very next budget for 2008-09 provided the new coalition government shows political will, devise rational, pro-growth, equitable tax polices policies and implement them with the backing and support of all the stakeholders. The strongest resistance will certainly come from the rich lobby within the coalition partners, vested interest in Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) having unholy alliance with tax evaders and unscrupulous business giants. Intelligentsia, masses and civil society representatives will have to raise collective voice and exert pressure on these elements. We need to come out of debt enslavement and make Pakistan a self-reliant economic entity, which alone will free us from political subservience of Washington and its allies (beggars cannot be the chooser).
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=723071&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=723337&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate=
The other articles for your consideration are:
http://dawn.com/2008/04/11/op.htm#3
http://dawn.com/weekly/encounter/encounter3.htm
http://www.thenews.com.pk/editorial_detail.asp?id=106460
http://thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx?dtlid=154227&src=Huzaima%20Bukhari%20a nd%20Dr.%20Ikramul%20Haq&date=08/04/2008
http://thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx?dtlid=150983&src=Huzaima%20Bukhari%20a nd%20Dr.%20Ikramul%20Haq&date=21/03/2008
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=716185&currPageNo=1&query=&s earch=&term=&supDate
http://209.85.135.104/custom?q=cache:fe3L18s3r6UJ:www.eias.org/publications/bu lletin/2006/novdec06/EB_NovDec_06.PDF+dr,+Ikramul+Haq&hl=en&ct=clnk& cd=2
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/spedition/23march2008/index.html#4
#8 Posted by Leadenwinter on February 25, 2008 10:51:29 am
#7 tvarad
The Pakistan economy has grown by 6.6 percentage points from 1.8 in 2000 under the Army. The external debt has gone down from 48% of the economy in 2001 to 39% in 2007 under the army. Foreign exchange reserves have gone up from $3 billion in 2001 to nearly $14 billion in 2007. In fact poverty levels have decreased by about 10% since 2001. You can confirm this anywhere on any source dealing with the Pakistan economy, so in no way can the Military be described as parasites. In fact it probably goes to show that “only” the military represent competent economic actors.
The previous bout of economic performance was under Zia between 1981 and 1987.
Between 1988 to 1999 the Pakistani public were being “democratic” . The economy went straight down the toilet initially because BB was a dumb as a down syndromed monkey and her husband was a criminal. Things went from bad to worse when the government changed and even worse when the PPP came back the second time. The coup de grace was the IJI coalition when the Nawaz government made a record $2 billion disappear under the “Qarz Utaro Mulk Sanwaro” and the Forex emergency of 1998.
Civilian government means corruption. Anyone who want civilian government in Pakistan therefore advocates corruption and by which argument is either stupid, too young to remember what civilian govt. means or most probably, corrupt.
The Pakistan economy has grown by 6.6 percentage points from 1.8 in 2000 under the Army. The external debt has gone down from 48% of the economy in 2001 to 39% in 2007 under the army. Foreign exchange reserves have gone up from $3 billion in 2001 to nearly $14 billion in 2007. In fact poverty levels have decreased by about 10% since 2001. You can confirm this anywhere on any source dealing with the Pakistan economy, so in no way can the Military be described as parasites. In fact it probably goes to show that “only” the military represent competent economic actors.
The previous bout of economic performance was under Zia between 1981 and 1987.
Between 1988 to 1999 the Pakistani public were being “democratic” . The economy went straight down the toilet initially because BB was a dumb as a down syndromed monkey and her husband was a criminal. Things went from bad to worse when the government changed and even worse when the PPP came back the second time. The coup de grace was the IJI coalition when the Nawaz government made a record $2 billion disappear under the “Qarz Utaro Mulk Sanwaro” and the Forex emergency of 1998.
Civilian government means corruption. Anyone who want civilian government in Pakistan therefore advocates corruption and by which argument is either stupid, too young to remember what civilian govt. means or most probably, corrupt.
#7 Posted by tvarad on February 25, 2008 5:38:31 am
Leadenwinter #1,
"In spite of everything, these elections should never have taken place. In some masochistic frenzy the Pakistani electorate, co-opting Western pro-democracy agitprop, have in essence surrendered their nation to Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari; both utterly reprehensible and proven criminals."
I request you to go see a doctor immediately. That's the only way that you'll find out that you've become de-sensitized to the army baton stuck up every Pakistani a*se since independence. You'll feel much better and realize that Sharif and Zardari are merely inflicting pin-pricks on you compared to Musharaff and the gazillion fauji parasites who are wasting away the Pakistani body.
"In spite of everything, these elections should never have taken place. In some masochistic frenzy the Pakistani electorate, co-opting Western pro-democracy agitprop, have in essence surrendered their nation to Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari; both utterly reprehensible and proven criminals."
I request you to go see a doctor immediately. That's the only way that you'll find out that you've become de-sensitized to the army baton stuck up every Pakistani a*se since independence. You'll feel much better and realize that Sharif and Zardari are merely inflicting pin-pricks on you compared to Musharaff and the gazillion fauji parasites who are wasting away the Pakistani body.
#6 Posted by jayp on February 24, 2008 11:50:15 pm
The great paki people have voted. Secind largest party is PML-Q, they have all pakistan representation and have polled more votes that PML-N which the pakis are praising so much. This is a clear indication that pakis liked mushy and his party. If it were not for the death of benazir, PML-Q would have been the major party.
The pakistanis do not want to accept the reality, that is all.
The pakistanis do not want to accept the reality, that is all.
#5 Posted by tahmed32 on February 24, 2008 5:02:48 am
#3 ha! ha! choke in your own spite, pagal kutta from india!!
#4 Posted by Leadenwinter on February 24, 2008 4:19:39 am
Re. majumdar & FATA/Lal Masjid:
Pakistan has every legal and moral right to protect its territorial integrity as far as the Waziristan issue goes. Pakistan is greater than the sum of it parts and the idea and security of Pakistan supersedes the interests of a few petty traitors. The persons holding the nation hostage in so far as the Lal Masjid affair were criminals and a disgrace not just to Pakistan, but the whole of humanity and thankfully got their just desserts.
Pakistan has every legal and moral right to protect its territorial integrity as far as the Waziristan issue goes. Pakistan is greater than the sum of it parts and the idea and security of Pakistan supersedes the interests of a few petty traitors. The persons holding the nation hostage in so far as the Lal Masjid affair were criminals and a disgrace not just to Pakistan, but the whole of humanity and thankfully got their just desserts.
#3 Posted by jayp on February 23, 2008 12:18:43 am
#1,
I completely agree, pakiostan deserves only military rule or kalifayet as required by islam. One should not forget the jubilations when mushy came to power.
Lal majid and FATA re nothing, they were jihadis wanting to reach heaven, and any muslim govt should help this. They should not be made to travel to kashmir or london underground enroute to heaven.
Now that mushy is almost gone, the jihadis will have to travel far and wide and that is teh concern for the world. No wonder the world liked mushy, and he should be loved by the jihadis as well.
I completely agree, pakiostan deserves only military rule or kalifayet as required by islam. One should not forget the jubilations when mushy came to power.
Lal majid and FATA re nothing, they were jihadis wanting to reach heaven, and any muslim govt should help this. They should not be made to travel to kashmir or london underground enroute to heaven.
Now that mushy is almost gone, the jihadis will have to travel far and wide and that is teh concern for the world. No wonder the world liked mushy, and he should be loved by the jihadis as well.
#2 Posted by majumdar on February 22, 2008 8:53:51 pm
LW,
(Musharraf's martial law will be looked back at with nostalgia)
Including the genocide in Lal Masjid and FATA???
Regards
(Musharraf's martial law will be looked back at with nostalgia)
Including the genocide in Lal Masjid and FATA???
Regards
#1 Posted by Leadenwinter on February 22, 2008 9:45:24 am
In spite of everything, these elections should never have taken place. In some masochistic frenzy the Pakistani electorate, co-opting Western pro-democracy agitprop, have in essence surrendered their nation to Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari; both utterly reprehensible and proven criminals.
Pakistan's turbulent climate particularly in so far as separatists, fundamentalists and terrorists as well as poverty, illiteracy and one sided globalisation/(imperialism) shall inevitably be aggravated by these criminals having acquired office.
Musharraf's martial law will be looked back at with nostalgia, by the time Sharif and Zardari have had their way.
Pakistan's turbulent climate particularly in so far as separatists, fundamentalists and terrorists as well as poverty, illiteracy and one sided globalisation/(imperialism) shall inevitably be aggravated by these criminals having acquired office.
Musharraf's martial law will be looked back at with nostalgia, by the time Sharif and Zardari have had their way.
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