Pakistan, a Different Country!

zeemax #326 NS is right in saying the new government should not take oath under an illegal president. There was talk of sending the president on an umra so he is not around and a stand-in administers the oath. What a mess!! This constitutional crisis must be causing the country incredible direct and indirect economic losses every day. And all because one stupid man thought he could actually continue to be military dictator for life!!

Masadi:
here, unlike your prejudiced writings blaming the victims, here is a real study with hard data http://www.countercurrents.org/comm-sikand090206.htm

Ans: Nobody denies data. But, there was no research/study conducted on this topic to identify, why it is such.

NHK & Zeemax,
thanks but I still have a hunch abt him.

Zee sahib,

(What had these women done in the first place other than picking up some hookers and giving them a few lectures?)

To tell you the truth the modus operandi of the girls in JH was very much reminiscent of the Gandhian satyagrahis (although you will probably throw at fit at comparing them with Gandhians) maybe slightly rougher tactics were used.

What was done to them was incomparably more inhuman.

Regards

To Masadi:

From the article:-
According to this respondent, in Rajasthan only 38 Muslims have been appointed under the OBC category, although it is possible that some OBC Muslims have been selected in the general quota as well.
Ans: So, muslims don't want to compete with the other OBCs also!!! Man you are getting some protective quota. That is also not sufficient?
India is not rich like UK. It will provide you uncontrolled breeding and raise population share. Thats it.
If you are not able to benefit from OBC quota, then you don't deserve it.

The author of the article has selected states like Gujrat, Bihar, UP, MP and Rajasthan. These states has very high dalit population and most of the welfare schemes are meant for dalits (though still not sufficient for them. More needs to be done).

#335 Posted by ijaz_gul

What is Zardari up to?

He's got his balls in a squeeze by NS. There's a great article by Moeed Yousuf in the current issue of Friday Times which gives a complete picture of how NS trapped him where he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

#334 Posted by akcheema,

Zeemax, all jokes aside, is that really the Pakistan you wish to be living in?

This question itself is loaded with kanjarpana and shamimism. What had these women done in the first place other than picking up some hookers and giving them a few lectures? The same kanjar police is arresting the same chinese hookers now after a thousand faujis got blown up and still keep getting blown up regularly.

I wouldn't have a problem at all. It's you who'll have a problem. But then it's not your country ... you have adopted the aussie kanjaristan as your home, right?

So don't worry your little head with Pakistan. Pakistanis will decide its direction, and not vilayati plate-pissing 'Overseas' Pakistanis (generally speaking of-course ... no one in particular).

Re: # 184
need to be exorcised from your land instead of blaming the Muslims for what you did to them as a consequence of the partition...


Ans: We have not kept muslims uneducated in Afghanisthan, Pakisthan. Why is the literacy rate damn low in these countries?

Islam was a factor in educating the Arabs and freeing them from superstition, the Hindu mythologies that have kept your kind in the gutter...

Ans: That we know. The recent PEW survey shows that in USA Hindus and Jews are most wealthy and educated religious group. I have found similar result in UK also. And Arabs and moslems are most educated people on the face of earth.

Re: # 184
I have read this article. I am not seeing anything, which amounts to discrimination.
One of the most stupid points...
Muslims don't want co-education, so Govt. has to change rule to make it look like mediaval arab? Then this guy will claim, Govt. sponsored schools should relax school uniform rule, such that moslem girls can attend school using Burqa and moslem boys with cap, 3/4 pyjama and long shirt?
Every state has it's own culture (Indian states are devidided on linguistic/cultural basis) and the school text books generaly reflect that. So, the education department has to write text book such that instead of "Ram pluck a mango from tree" to " Al-Bin-Murtaja .... is trying to kill a camel"?


Institutional discrimination implies that the life chances offered to you are restricted from the get go, even when you struggle past one rung the other one is blocked to filter out your kind, the individual does not have to explicitly state why the other person is being disallowed, the institution is structured this way.

Which institution is stuctured that way?
Electricity Boards are not even sparing farmers due to open economy. So, the power loom weavers are not getting free power is cause of concern!!!
I know, Govt. of India even sponsores Madrasseh and allows muslims establish institutions with violating all syllabus norm.

# 335

dear Ijaz

``Dear Chowkies,
What is Zardari up to? ''

Zardari has emerged as the most astutute politicians so far. He has said all the right things & made all the right moves.

He wants to take `all along' because only then two third majority can come. He has expressed his willingness to work with Musharraf because he knows first step is to get into the parliament, built two third majority & then screw Musharraf. He does not want to alert the snake beforehand by the empty aggressive bluster.

He is for the Provincial Autonomy, restoration of 1973 Constitution & indepependence of judiciary. On the Judiciary, he is presently low key because of Musharraf factor.

His best performance was with Karan Thapar on India-Pak issue. He said leave Kashmir for next generation until everyone grows up. And trade/relations should not be kept hostage until Kasmir solution.

He speaks confidently, has a sense of humour & is not interested in becomining PM. Being head of PPP is good enough for him.

100 % marks to Zardari. So what if he has made around a billion or so. All his past misdeeds are exonerated.

regards

NHK

hellfires: check
pakis bombing militants: check
militants blowing up pakis: check
paki army greasing up and bending over: check

so how's it a new country?


Major offensive against militants ‘planned’



By Anwar Iqbal


WASHINGTON, March 2: Pakistan is planning a major military offensive against suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda bases in the tribal areas, diplomatic sources in Washington told Dawn.

The sources said that the decision to go after the militants followed a recent increase in terrorist attacks in the country. The terrorists were unusually silent during and immediately after the national elections but have carried out several major attacks recently, killing more than 100 people in three days.

The sources said that while the United States will provide technical support for this offensive, there will be no direct US participation.

Reports in the US media on Sunday said that Washington is sending 100 military trainers to Pakistan who may also participate in operations against the militants.

Pakistan will also continue its efforts to negotiate a peaceful end to the conflict with tribal supporters of the Taliban and Al Qaeda insurgents, the sources said, adding that the military offensive will not terminate the peace talks.

The sources claimed that US intelligence experts also have confirmed Pakistan’s assessment that Baitullah Mehsud and his group are responsible for most of the attacks inside Pakistan. They said that since December, when Mehsud assumed command of a militant umbrella group called Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, he has become active on both sides of the Pak-Afghan border.

In an unusual interview to Washington Post last month, CIA chief Michael Hayden blamed Mehsud for assassinating former prime minister Benazir Bhutto and warned that a new “nexus between Al Qaeda and various extremist and separatist groups” is seeking to destabilise Pakistan.

“It is clear that their intention is to continue to try to do harm to the Pakistani state as it currently exists,” he added.

US officials in Washington say that the United States is helping Pakistan deal with this threat and recently sent a four-member intelligence team to the country to help enhance their intelligence gathering capabilities.

The proposed military offensive, according to diplomatic and US sources, aims at curbing Mehsud’s growing influence in the tribal zone, particular in Waziristan.

Pentagon officials, while talking to various US media outlets, said that US intelligence experts are helping Pakistan locate Mehsud who, they said, needs to be “hammered down.”

Diplomatic sources said that since Mehsud and his militants hide among local tribes, it has been difficult to pinpoint him. The fear of collateral damage --- civilian casualties -– also prevents US and Pakistani troops from targeting Mehsud.

The Pakistan Army last conducted an operation against Mehsud in early January. But the action ended after a few days amid talk of an unofficial truce.

Dear Chowkies,
What is Zardari up to?

Re: # 332

Zeemax, all jokes aside, is that really the Pakistan you wish to be living in?

... them ...

#330 Posted by hamidm2,

Oh really? There was news yesterday that Umm-e-Hassan walked into a girls' madrassa in I-9 in Islamabad (which had earlier been affiliated with Jamia Hafsa) along with a dozen girls, beat up the 'Mohtamim', threw him out, and took control without a peep from the police or anyone else.

Now, do you dare to pull another 'operation silence' on tham?

hello prophetboy...what's up with the moderate kids of moderate pakis?

School-going children stage anti-blasphemy protest

By Ali Waqar

LAHORE: A few dozens of schoolchildren held an anti-blasphemy demonstration on the Multan Road to protest against the publishing of sketches of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) in Danish newspapers.

The protest, termed an awakening call for the students of a few private schools, was arranged by Bazam-e-Pegham, an association working with the aim to ‘enlighten’ students on Islam.

Some teachers and Bazam-e-Pegham society members also accompanied the students in the protest. The students, wearing shrouds, posed as Ghazi Ilamud Din Shaheed (the Muslim who killed Raj Pal on writing a blasphemous book in the Subcontinent). The students of the Allama Iqbal High School and Lahore Islamic Mission High School branches in the Canal View Housing Society and on Wahdat Road participated in the protest.