The Naval War College Bomb Blasts

#354 nkg

[Re: # 279
Tahmed32...Innocent people of Kashmir has sufferred!!!! Who are innocent?]

nkg,

Islam considers human decency and compassion as a weakness to be exploited in the enemy. So the standard ploy in all islamic (i.e. terrorist) "struggles" is to use the enemy's humanity against him.

The method is time tested:

1) Use the islamic society around you as cover. Shoot at the enemy and disappear under the skirts of the women and hide behind the children. Hamas militants often have children riding along with them in cars for insurance.

2) No matter how careful the enemy is, if they shoot back, there WILL be some collateral damage.

3) Use these collateral deaths as a public propaganda weapon against the enemy - there will be bleeding heart liberals and sanctimonious lefties who then will start ranting and raving all over the media. There will be Islamic fundamentalists (like prophet Tahmed) who will scream the loudest, thus acting as enablers for the terrorist organizations.

4) These people will keep up their moaning, groaning, whining and complaining to keep working on the compassionate side of the enemy so that the enemy is divided - in two minds.

5) Meanwhile, keep up the mass murders of innocent women and children of the enemy (just like Hamas did recently in Israel).

This is the standard mode of operation of these worms. They have perfected it and use it all over the world.

Re: # 339
I get surprised, how come these bi-ped animals in Pakistan deny their glorious past and try to take the identity of looters, barbarians, who have destroyed their civilisation?
The home grown Taxila and Harappa can provide more glory than being a part of a mideaval middle barbaric cult.

Re: # 314
Yes Mr Masadi... The way people believe you, same way people have to believe that Islam is peaceful and Mohammed was great person. The 22% favourable people have to be enligtened. We can not change moslems to reasonable human being; but can atleast inform others there.

Re: # 279
Tahmed32...Innocent people of Kashmir has sufferred!!!! Who are innocent? The jihadis who have already killed 80,000 Kashmiri pandits and looted their properties!!! May be according to Islam/barbarism, it is the definition of "innocence", but you can not sell this definition to civilised world. Indian security forces are very lenient in Kashmir, otherwise, they could have wiped out the root of terrorism/Islam in Kashmir and brought back civilisation there (they way they have handled Khalisthanis in Punjab).

Re: # 334
What about people who have already brought Juguar and landrover will they be compensated for depreciating their driving machines in this take over ?

Ans: What is depreciating? Is the quality of car getting reduced when the company management changes? You are typical moslem/barbarian. Tata is not going to dilute the quality of the products, they want to popularise it. If they dilute quality, they will suffer. When Compaq had taken over Digital Equipment Corporation, lot of people were very apprehaensive in high end computig sector. A company selling PC will take over a technology giant like Digital!!! A lot of engineers (even from India, along with US counterpart) left Digital/Compaq. But Compaq had not diluted quality of products sold by Digital. If Lenovo can take over the PC segment of IBM, so can Tata any automobile company. Tata had not accumulated wealth by digging oil beneath the earth and flaunting that money to aquire JLR. The are in automobile sector quite long period of time and they can handle it.

From Ayesha article

Ayesha Siddiqa gave insight into perks military personnel receive. “Officers get 50-75 acres of land, and soldiers are given roughly 12.5 acres each, but soldiers don’t get other subsidies.” Land without water and accessible roads does not mean much, Ayesha Siddiqa said. Officers get these benefits, but soldiers don’t.

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The source of paki army corruption is the partition, it is the land left behind by the hindus that has fueled the land alocations and the rise to power of the pak military.

here we go again, hindus are responsible for pak problems.

Re: # 342

I agree tahmed; I think even if he was a spy, 35+ years is more than enough punishment (I am against the death penalty, especially in OUR context where injustices are rampent).

As for if he was an enemy soldier "killing" our soldiers, surely if he was caught alive he'd be a prisoner of war and be dealt with as per the Geneva Convention. Even then, 35+ years would have been enough. Same applies to "POWs" from the Pakis side incarcerated in India after the 1971 fiasco.

However, the release was under the pretence of his innocence; that makes everyone feel like a complete d..k; that is the issue. Poor Kashmir has nothing to do with it.

#348/349 Posted by tahmed32

tahmed join the discussion b/w me and hamidm on HP's board. It appears Zardari is preparing to be a turncoat.

zeemax:P i also had the chance to meet some lawyer reps from Pakistan visiting the US a couple of days back - one of them had a large police contingent break his house door at night in november 2007. he asked them if they had a warrant - and the police said they did not need a warrant under the PCO. and they took him away to prison where he was kept in solitary confinement for 15 days - and slept without any bedding in the cold weather.

i hope musharraf is hauled before court and held accountable for this crime, as well as every other crime he has committed.

zeemax #347 actually we both win.

btw, i was just watching zardari give a press conference on geo tv, and he seems to be a chhoopa-rustum. That is, contrary to his image of being a ghoonda, he speaks like a well-read man with very mature outlook on politics.

Of course actions speak louder than words and time will tell..but for now he seems to be doing a great job.

#346 Posted by tahmed32,

I give up! I don't know how to argue with your defense of spies! You win!

zeemax #345 There used to be a joke in 1965 in the military - that the only military secret we should make sure the Indians dont find out is that General Musa is a duffer. :-)

There were no secret bridges and airports in Pakistan.

#344 Posted by tahmed32,

tahmed saheb, spies identify bombing targets and convey these to the war planners. I'm sure they're aware photography of airfields and bridges is prohibited but they don't read the signs saying that. Right?

I can't believe what you're saying!

zeemax #343 absolutely - in the circumstances i mentioned. we take too many things for granted.

What would this man have spied on?

weapons? at the time pakistan had sherman and m-48 tanks and some chinese tanks i think - their strengths and weaknesses were well known even at that time.

airports and bridges? (whose photography is prohibited to this day) that would provide virtually no edge.

Troop deployments? peacetime stations are well known. it is only in case of troop movements in wartime that you need to keep them secret until the time you attack - that wasnt the case.

#342 Posted by tahmed32,

Hmm ... spies are harmless. Are you serious Sir?

zeemax #341 If someone is killing someone else, that is a different story. Spying wrt conventional armed forces does not put even a dent in national security. (nuclear weapons and missile deployments need to be secure - but they did not exist when this man was caught).

It is too easy to make harmless people suffer in the name of national security.