I Fell Among (the APPNA) Doctors

Re: # 40

Sure, Tell him Modi says hi - you know what that means... :)

Re: # 37

Why don't you invite your cousins to pakiland to have the same "opportunities" you enjoyed?..

Don't worry, my cousins' cousin is planning to pay you a visit soon. You know what I mean. LOL

Re: # 38 Mrs. Qureshi

Didn't you read my response? Return to your article please.

Hilarious. I agree, patriotism can hit you at the oddest moments...although you've got to be missing home a lot to have an overzealous Pakistani aunty singing the national anthem to her tortured children work for you :)

heard about the APPNA event taking place in DC a while ago. Apparently a lot of non-doctors attend too

Re: # 4 mkamd

Why don't you invite your cousins to pakiland to have the same "opportunities" you enjoyed?...

Aziz Sahib

Thoroughly enjoyed your style and content, this desi phenomena is all pervasive and depending on the demographics can be worse.

Re: # 28

Masadi miaN, I must protest vigorously on such a wrong characterization of what Dr. Gill (fondly called the Gilster by some) is all about. May Allah grant him a long life and the same Allah cause your gharwaali to hit you with a broom or other sharp objects that may be handy.

Warm regards,
BJ2

Aziz:

You had me rolling on the floor, I think you nailed all the various Paki doctors that I have had the misfortune of running into these last dozen years in America. If only elevators had rules of etiquette listed inside...

Ejaz

And you remain a moron and your so-called proof of identity loss using "Muslim names" is quite pathetic, nowhere is there a recommendation for the new convert to change his name, social precident where a minority within a larger group wants to seperate itself for the purpose of identity results in such name changes, further you haven't even studied regional variation among Muslim names or taken a sample of any group where ethnic/regional influences have vanished from names just because of conversion to Islam

Mulla Mandarji,

Sorry! But people will figure out which sentences are yours. Yours are flawless English but every third sentence is same as first one and lot of words ending phonetically with "it" eg elite, sh.it, dim-wit etc.

You sick fool satya, when you try to answer what I wrote atleast seperate it from your dimwitted responses, don't muddy my words by joining your contaminated sh** with them...

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Some reading on the issue

There are two distinct schools of thought for determining the qibla: the commonly used Great Circle method, and the less common rhumb-line method. Looking at a flat map using any standard projection shows that a rhumb line (a line that cuts equal angles across all lines of longitude) drawn from, say, the Johnson Space Center in Houston to Mecca runs east-southeast. The numbers also bear this out -- the space center is to the north and west of the Ka'aba, so any travel to the holy city should naturally be to the southeast.

Lay a string across a globe, however, and everything changes. A great circle -- the shortest distance between two points on a sphere -- between Houston and Mecca initially arcs to the northeast, then curves southward to the Saudi peninsula. Islamic scientists knew as early as the ninth century CE that the great circle route provided the shortest path to Mecca from anywhere in the world, even though it may in some places seem counterintuitive (Muslims in Alaska, for example, pray facing almost due north). Great circle formulae are at the root of nearly every online qibla compass.

Dr. Kamal Abdali, a cartographer who is also Muslim and who has written (.pdf) extensively on determining the qibla, favors the great circle route, but adds, "Prayer is not supposed to be a gymnastic exercise. One is supposed to concentrate on the prayer rather the exact orientation." He points out that in a train or plane, it's customary to start in the qibla direction but then continue the prayer without worrying about possible changes in position.

http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/09/mecca_in_orbit

BJ writes " Dr. Gill has among the cleanest of records.
Warm regards,..."

Using excuses to defame Islam while worshipping his white masters, writing dimwit articles that are summaries of other articles or books does not show a "clean record". As most peons of the West who stab their own folk in the back, Gill is all smiles as the knife he holds and wants to strike his own folk with descends to its destination but always misses because the fool is a moron...

Tahir mian you are missing the mountain by concentrating on the ant hills, very unfortunate if you allow this tendency to take control. Hold up, take a breath, move back and when you want to make a point from the Quran, since these fools wont get what you are writing in brackets and all of that with combinations from other parts and what not, paraphrase it for them, and add the rejoinders, verse references and what not as a footnote if you must...

Tahir writes "While you do have a point hidden away in your reply, a knowledgeable believer will not leave this matter rest here.."

Walikum hello. My point was using a compass to determine the direction after using a globe, you know those miniature ones, to get a clue on the direction; I have no reason to believe that the Quran seeks precise degrees so that you minimize the mile diversion. Of course I am non-technical in this, and just like the ordinary Abdul travelling in the desert might get an approximation through whatever methods he uses, my use of the compass would not be unacceptible to Allah, at least I have no reason to belive that it would. I am sure you don't want Muslims to get busy with determining the "physical" direction of the Qibla because doing that they lose track of their real Qibla and get busy with things superfluous...as the "what is in a name" mail, surely He knows what is in my name masadi...