Pakistan’s Prevailing Political And Economic Mess

Leadenwinter writes "#12 sometimes I feel so proud to be a Pakistani.. "

I'm sure you do just like the Americans down south feel whenever they "talk in tongues" or "handle serpents" who bite them into a coma....Army apologists have are quite moronically illterate and will pick on one or two sensationalized tales to pass judgment on the entire nation- this is their hallmark and those they support, the thugs of the Pakistan Army similarly take personal idiosyncrasies of some civilian politicians and then pontificate on how their rule is best for the country. The sooner we get rid of these ghaddar thugs and morons the better....

The next calamity to hit the paki textile industry is the foreign currency loans. With the fall in the rupees, the loans outstanding are sky rocketting and many of the companies will be closed and equipments sold off.

It is sad to see that such economic malice is happening in pakistan. This can be traced to teh education system, where the incompetant have come to the top.

A good example here on chowk is YLH, he is supposed to be US educated, but is completely bigotted, has no sense of reality, keeps telling that gandhi was a supporter of caste system, and was a muslim hater.

If YLH represent the elite educated of pakistan, no wonder that the all of teh paki polices are crazy.

thanks madani saab

Re: # 29: HumDim,

Tube in your head is getting too dim.

"i believe that the best way to solve pakistan's present problems is to declare war on india and move the wild-eyed jihadis from waziristan and khyber to occupied kashmir"

wild-eyed jihadis eyeing you and your gori and tight rear.

Didnt you try that in 48 and 65? India wants in fact Ar Par Ki ladai.

You have good points.
Meat eaters at top of chain. Grass eater animals followed by Non Vegetarian animals.
Kashmir on slippery slope. Talking of trade before peace treaty acceptable to pakistan.
Whatever deshis can fake in America finally white man is boss.
In final analysis electricity, wheat and other wordly things do not matter as we can take with us up.

Finally thanks for understanding of mine about color problems. Amoung all you are only understand my feeling of my deliquent minor's mind about color complexiomn and complexities
Good day.
Good day.

Re: # 28

guru mian,


.... i don't know about islam and arab imperialism, but i do know that you horrible hindoos are getting too big for your dhotis and it is time some one kicked your scrawny posteriors as you squat on railroad tracks ..... i believe that the best way to solve pakistan's present problems is to declare war on india and move the wild-eyed jihadis from waziristan and khyber to occupied kashmir ...... once we have liberated the kashmiris we can reinstate the droopy eyed one, solve the electricity problem, fight inflation, provide deodrant to the tribesmen and toothpaste to the mullahs ....... i am not much one for empire building and all that, but i do believe that those who don't eat meat do not deserve a country of their own ........

hamidm,

you will make sense when you start growing some foreskin and some foresight. for the peace in the world Islam, the arab imperialism has to be vanquished.

Decolonization happened now DeArabization/DeIslamization has to happen.

Re: # 26

guru,

.... when i run into people like you i am glad that grandpa gopinath had the courage to part with his foreskin (that, and the fact that i can eat a hamburger insted of worshiping it) ......... you are a bigger fool than masadi and tahmed put together ..... as soon as we solve the droopy-eyed cj problem and the put masadi in a looney bin, we are coming after you ...... boo !

Probably the only thing I agree on, that Pakistan is a failed State, a basket case and a threat to the world stability. WW III is either likely to start in Pakistan, or Israel, and the sooner these two countries are sorted out by the Regional powers in their respective Regions, the better. Neither should have been created in the first place. All they've done is bring grief to a post war international community. India should have remained undivided, and a new State of Palestine created for the Arabs inc their small Jewish community.
Posted by swatantra on July 20, 2008 11:17 AM

The answer to pakistan is the following:
1/ break it up, independent Sindh and Baluchistan.

2/ total trade embargo.

3/ban on flights

4/refuse admittance to pakistanis and deport all pakistanis.
5/ military alliance with India,China,Russia, Serbia and Israel.
6/Implementation of TREASON LAWS in the UK.
7/ complete ban on fund raising for islamic causes.
See this link, these are the pak owned businesses in the UK that fund treason and Jihad in the UK.
link
Posted by Gurinder Singh Panesar on July 20, 2008 11:18 AM

The root cause why the military ruled Pakistan is pampered by the West is their false fear that the big democratic India will swallow it. Well Britain created Pakistan, nurtured it and America fed it when Soviet Union entered Afghanistan at the invitation of Afghan government. The reason Pakistan has become an epicentre of terrorism is because of the funds given by USA to create Taliban, the al Quida and the international terrorists to fight communism. The West gave sanctuary to Kashmir terrorists pitying them falsely. Well the west is reaping the consequences of their policy of encouraging Pakistan against a democratic country India. The West has treated falsely the terrorists as freedom fighters and has been totally arrogant and blind. Pakistan invaded India over three times. However, the West did not accuse Pakistan but pitied it. The West is paying the price for treating a military government on the same footing as a democratic government.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008 /07/20/do2001.xml
The biggest threat to the West is not al-Qa'eda, Afghanistan or Iran, but the country that, thanks to its laxity, has become the terrorists' chief hideout and breeding ground

A Pakistani Army guards a position only a few hundred meters from the Afghan border
Terrorists defeated in Afghanistan often regroup and rebuild across the border in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas

It's the threat to world peace that dares not speak its name.

We hear plenty about the dangers posed to our security by al-Qa'eda, Afghanistan and Iran. But when it comes to talking about the country that arguably constitutes the greatest threat to our everyday wellbeing, Pakistan hardly ever seems to merit a mention.

This is rather surprising, given that if you talk to any of the military commanders or politicians responsible for prosecuting the war against Islamist terrorism, Pakistan is the country that is almost universally identified as constituting the most serious active threat to our national security.

And it is also seen as the greatest obstacle to our efforts to combat the pernicious threat of jihad by terrorism.

Last week, the subject came up in conversations I had with one of our leading military commanders and a senior politician who is personally involved in the defence of the realm.
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About the only response I could evoke from my military acquaintance when I raised the thorny issue of Pakistan was a deep sigh and a shrug of the shoulders. "Ah yes, Pakistan," he said with a world-weary sigh. "A multitude of problems with no obvious solutions."
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As for the politician, I was curious as to why the Government seems to have imposed a news blackout on making any statement that might be deemed critical of the Pakistani government. "The fact is, the country is teetering on the precipice of total collapse, and we don't want to be the ones to push it over the edge."

Indeed, the idea of Pakistan replicating the near-anarchy that prevails across the border in Afghanistan is almost too terrifying to contemplate.

While coalition forces have enjoyed much success in eradicating the operational infrastructure of the Taliban and al-Qa'eda in southern Afghanistan, they are deeply frustrated by the fact that the terrorists have simply been allowed to regroup and rebuild across the border in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas.

British military commanders last week told The Sunday Telegraph that the five-fold increase in roadside bomb attacks in southern Afghanistan was the result of the training that Taliban fighters were receiving at religious schools in Pakistan, where they are being taught to make explosives and build improvised explosive devices.

And while al-Qa'eda is not the force it was when it carried out the September 11 attacks, Western intelligence experts believe the core of al-Qa'eda's leadership - possibly including Osama bin Laden himself - is based in the inhospitable mountain ranges of Waziristan in Pakistan, where they continue to plot their diabolical schemes to attack the West.

To this potent Taliban/al-Qa'eda terrorist mix has now been added the new ingredient of Pakistan's home-grown Islamist radicals, which Western security experts call the Pakistani Taliban to distinguish them from their Afghan neighbours.

The Pakistani Taliban is made up of indigenous Muslims who have been radicalised in one of the hundreds of Saudi-funded madrassahs, which openly preach that young Muslims have an obligation to wage Jihad against the infidels of the West.

Nearly all the major terror plots against Britain - both those that succeeded, such as the July 7 bombings, and those that have been foiled by the vigilance of our security services - have been linked in some way to Pakistan.

The emergence of a new, home-grown terrorist organisation in Pakistan has dramatically increased the threat the country poses to Britain.

As if this wasn't enough to give us all sleepless nights, Pakistan is the only Muslim country known to possess a nuclear weapons arsenal.

So long as President Pervez Musharraf remains the country's titular head, the West has some degree of assurance that Pakistan's nukes remain secure for, in his former capacity as the head of Pakistan's armed forces, Musharraf allowed US officials to make sure the necessary safeguards were in place to ensure the nukes did not fall into the wrong hands.

Al-Qa'eda's training manuals make no secret of the fact that the organisation would love to get its hands on a nuclear device, and the only two likely places it could do this are Pakistan and Iran.

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, the "father" of Pakistan's nuclear weapons arsenal, spent the Nineties making a tidy profit from hawking his nuclear-bomb blueprints to some of the world's less stable regimes, and North Korea, Libya and Iran were among some of the more notorious beneficiaries.

Although Dr Khan was placed under house arrest after his activities were exposed by Western intelligence agencies in 2002, Pakistan's new coalition government, bowing to nationalist pressure, has indicated it is prepared to rehabilitate the disgraced nuclear scientist, even though the West is still struggling to come to terms with the consequences of his clandestine nuclear proliferation network.

This is just one of several disturbing developments to emerge from Pakistan since the new coalition government took power earlier this year, in reaction to the West putting pressure on Mr Musharraf to return the country to democratic rule.

At the time, both London and Washington believed that Pakistan having a democratic government would increase its co-operation in fighting terrorism. In fact, the opposite appears to have happened.

The West might have been frustrated by what it perceived as Mr Musharraf's lack of commitment to rooting out terror groups in Waziristan, but at least while he was directly running the country there were sporadic bouts of activity.

But talk to any of the military commanders involved with prosecuting the war against the Taliban and al-Qa'eda, and they will tell you that Pakistani co-operation has virtually ground to a halt since the coalition government took control.

Until now, the West has maintained a discreet silence about its concerns regarding Pakistan's lack of commitment to rooting out Islamist terror cells, hoping that the new government in Islamabad can be persuaded to mend its ways. But the West's mounting frustration is unlikely to be contained for much longer.

Barack Obama, the Democrat presidential nominee, last week became the first leading Western politician to voice his frustration with Islamabad when he declared that he would have no hesitation in ordering American troops to pursue terror suspects across the Pakistani border "if Pakistan cannot or will not act".

The Pakistanis ignore this shot across their bows at their peril.

By Dr Farrukh Saleem
7/20/2008
What has been happening to our economy for the past 100 days is what a professional street woman could not have withstood for a night. Consider the following: First, 38 per cent of our labour force is employed by our textile sector. Second, nearly 50 per cent of all manufacturing in this country is done by our textile sector. Third, textile exports stand at 62 per cent of our total exports. Now imagine; the textile sector is on the verge of collapse.

For an average textile spinning unit, energy costs have gone up by Rs4 million a month and wages by Rs1 million a month. Two out of every three spinning units are no longer able to breakeven. Over the past seven years, when lending rates were as low as 3 per cent to 4 per cent, Pakistan's textile industry had invested some $5 billion into expansion and modernization. Interest rates have since shot up to 13 per cent increasing interest costs of an average textile unit by Rs100 million a year. Industry leaders now insist that half of the 310 spinning units will shut down within the next three months.

If our textile sector is on the verge of collapse then the future of 38 per cent of Pakistan's labour force is at stake. If our textile sector is on the verge of collapse then the future of our entire manufacturing sector is at stake. Some $10 billion worth of exports are also at stake.

Is the government worried? What a stupid question. The real question is: where is the government? More precisely; just who is the government? Imagine; our soft-spoken, hard-thinking minister of finance was not taken on board when the rate of gas was jacked up by a colossal 68 per cent (for captive power plants).

On March 25, Syed Makhdoom Yousuf Raza Gilani took the oath of office. That day the value of all commercial entities listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) stood at Rs4.6 trillion. In exactly 100 days, the value of all commercial entities listed on the KSE went down to Rs3.6 trillion. Pakistan is poorer by a trillion rupees; that's like becoming poorer by Rs10 billion a day every day for the past 100 days.

On March 25, Syed Makhdoom Yousuf Raza Gilani took the oath of office. That Tuesday a dollar was worth Rs62.2. In exactly 100 days, the rupee lost a depressing 12.5 per cent. If the trend persists then in another 100 days a dollar will be worth a distressing Rs80 (someone from Multan once told me a way to win both in this and the world hereafter; pray five times a day and buy dollars).

On March 25, Syed Makhdoom Yousuf Raza Gilani took the oath of office. That day Pakistan's foreign currency reserves stood at $13 billion. In exactly 100 days, we have lost a hefty $3 billion, a wholesome $30 million a day every day for the past 100 days. If the trend persists then in another 300 days we will be down to zero. Our import cover, in the meanwhile, stands at a jittery 3.2 months (India's reserves stand at $314 billion).

Admittedly, the current government's entire burden is inherited liabilities. The Musharraf-led junta, in preparation for elections, emptied the treasury by sustaining some Rs500 billion worth of subsidies. Yes, Syed Makhdoom Yousuf Raza Gilani had taken over a bankrupt treasury but his government is yet to take a step to stop the rot.

Do we have to scream till we are blue in the face? America has moved aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln from the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea. Yes, there's nothing blooming but someone has got to stop the rot. Our government wedded to its factory of delusions. Their delusions producing nothing but 'scars and broken dreams'. Our world falling apart. Are they waiting till we meet our end? Please stop the clock, stop the rot. Goodbye, Peshawar. Goodbye, economy. Goodbye, politics. Hello Taliban.

"If some body havs uncle or brother who has 10 children and dirt poor "

Larger the Umma
sweeter the Allaha's chumma!

Re: # 1 I agree with population is too huge and negates all progress done.
There is also very strange asymetry of poverty and number of children.
All over world poor people who can not afford to have children breed like rats. They are most cruel to to their children. While rich and middle class people have reasonable numbers. In our country there are already two many people is my feeling. So many people that man has no value. Now we have birth control remedies available so old saying of innocently says of gods gifts is not very reasonable
All over world poor numbers are detrimental to reasonable life. Is it proper or moral to subsidize poverty ? Cheap food utility stores, concession for being poor from school to medical etc are goals are they attainable or even worth trying. When one looks at our country it is basically majority desert bisected by Dindhu River and people living along Sindhu and its tributaries. As indian population explodes to highest world with decreasing water resouces indus in Indian areas will be tapped and no body in indian govt can stop it. So there is upper limit for possible people can be sustained. One way is to as China does is compulsary one child policy , which is far human than you see povery in our country. Most people in middle class can not imagine the anguish and poorness of life one cursed to live as poor. Does have men and women right to overproduce and make miserable life for responsible.
If some body havs uncle or brother who has 10 children and dirt poor we do not feel its our responsibity even to close blood relatives. Now what politicians have rights to decide to give govts earnings on your behalf to all people.
People are rational in personal life. BB or NS or all scoundrals will not help from their own pockets any poor as that is not their responsibilites but why they have rights to subsidize bad attitude and subsidise more children life style. Then we try to rationalize romantically poverty like poor but and good hearts etc or poverty as virtue.
Only way is to survive and have some quality and dignity of life is decrease population over next 30 to 50 years and hopefully stabilise at lower levels. Country of ours short of water respouces will have to decrease population or otherwise people will talking of great life style of 2008 and long gone great days ( golden days) in 2030s and onwards.

Re: # 9
"Any bearded teenager running hurridly to catch an Underground train, with a rucksack full of textbooks, is a prime suspect nowdays in London (where thousands of cameras spy on the 'sheeple' to provide 'freedom')."

Bearded but what about shaven upper lip? Does he know sura 12.45?

Running? It is against the sura 123.456. Faithfuls need to be stand still in 7th century Arabia.

Hurried? Tauba Tauba! Faithfuls must not be hurried on earth and in the company of 72 houries in Jannat. He should hurry in dieing to reach Jannat. Clearly stated in sura 1234.4567.

Underground? Everything underground is forbidden. Doesn't he know we treat pigs who search overgound and little underground are Haram. Going underground to catch any thing is Haram. Sura 12345.45678

A rucksack full of textbooks? Hud Ho Gai! Tauba Tauba Tauba.... You only need one book, ie Koran!

Re: # 13 LEQADENWINTER... I reacted impatiently what why you wrote. I was wrong. Your heart is in right place , everybody should feel ashamed.I will like to emphasize my mistake is inadvertently and feel sad for it. I share your shame.