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Desi: The False Ideology

Aisha Sarwari June 1, 2001

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#1209 Posted by mumbaikar on December 8, 2004 7:45:47 am
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#1208 Posted by mohajir on November 29, 2001 9:55:05 pm
ABCD

`ABCD,` about an East Indian American family, is one of several ethnic films hoping for a wider appeal.

By JON MATSUMOTO, SPECIAL TO THE LOS ANGELES TIMES

When Krutin Patel co-wrote the script to his film ``ABCD`` in 1993, the most prominent East Indian in American pop culture was probably Apu from the television series ``The Simpsons.`` Eight years later, that animated convenience store clerk is still the most recognizably East Indian character in American television and film.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/printedition/calendar/la-000094888nov29.story

The paucity of East Indian American representation in the popular arts in this country is a primary reason why Patel feels so passionately about his independently made drama, which captures the intriguing dynamics of an East Indian American family.

``ABCD,`` which opens Friday at selected theaters, is one of a handful of new films involving rarely seen immigrant American characters and scenarios. ``The Debut,`` which is currently in theaters, and ``American Adobo,`` which is slated to open in Los Angeles on Jan. 23, are both small movies reflecting Philippine American life. A coming-of-age film about a Philippine American teenager, ``The Debut`` opened in Los Angeles in early October and has grossed more than $1 million. Home to large Philippine American populations, the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas have accounted for 90% of the film`s box-office success, according to its distributor, 5 Card Productions.

All three of these films deal in some way with ethnic minority immigrants and their children trying to reconcile traditional cultural values with very different American attitudes.

In ``ABCD,`` two grown children react differently to the expectations of their loving but very traditional Indian-born mother (Madhur Jaffrey). Older brother Raj (Faran Tahir) tries to conform to her wishes. He has a very respectable job as a Manhattan accountant and is engaged to a traditional Indian woman he does not entirely love. His younger sister Nina (Sheetal Sheth) rebels against conservative Indian mores by dating non-Indian men and by embracing a sexually promiscuous lifestyle.

Having emigrated from India to the U.S. at age 8, Patel is familiar with the difficulty of trying to straddle the line between two cultures. Like many men with Indian immigrant parents, he felt the pressure to land a white-collar job. To appease his parents` concerns about his desire to enter the uncertain field of filmmaking, he majored in both film and finance at New York University. While he hopes to transition into filmmaking full time, Patel currently works in the marketing department at the Food Network in New York.

Ironically, previous screenings of the film have indicated that ``ABCD`` is unlikely to be fully embraced by the Indian American community, particularly by that segment which espouses conservative cultural values.

``The strongest reaction to the film has come, believe it or not, from non-Indian Americans,`` remarks Patel, who also directed and co-produced ``ABCD.`` ``There are those in the Indian American community who don`t want to see its dirty laundry hung in public. The portrayal of characters like Nina [makes them uncomfortable]. They want to keep their heads in the sand. In the Indian community the film will raise a few eyebrows. That`s a good thing because there will be debate about it. We tend to be a community that doesn`t communicate in regard to some of these harder issues.``

Nina is the film`s most complex character. She rebels against the sexual conservatism of her ethnic culture. Yet her contrary ways also keep her from finding the emotional intimacy in her romantic relationships that will lead to happiness. When she finds herself falling in love with an Indian man she reluctantly meets on a date arranged by her mother, she is disinclined to commit to the relationship.

Patel says the Nina character has sparked much debate during question-and-answer sessions following screenings of the film. Some Indian Americans have found her to be an inaccurate representation of their people. Others have found her to be very real.

Patel recalls, ``One of my memories of showing this at a film festival was a British Indian girl telling me, `That`s my life up there on screen.` I was like, `Wow, thank you.` Nina really translated to her experience.``

``ABCD,`` whose relatively polished look belies its modest $200,000 budget, couldn`t have been made without the financial help of Patel`s friends and relatives.

``After my parents came to America, they helped other Indian immigrants who subsequently came to this country,`` explains Patel, who spent about five years raising money to make his film. ``Some 30 years later I needed financial backing and they turned around and gave me that help.`` Only a few of the Indian American investors asked to read the script.

Moviegoing is hugely popular in India. But Patel believes there would be little interest there in a serious-minded film about an Indian American family. Bollywood, as the Indian film industry is known, generally produces escapist melodramas.

The hope is that films like ``ABCD`` and ``American Adobo`` will find audiences among independent film lovers and in specific minority communities in the increasingly multiethnic U.S. Patel says there are sizable Indian populations in most major American cities. ``ABCD`` is slated to open in 15 to 20 markets in North America.

Non-Indian audiences may not fully understand a few of the cultural subtleties of the film and some viewers may not empathize with Raj`s possible encounter with workplace discrimination. But Patel feels he has fashioned a movie that has mainstream allure.

``I always wanted to make sure that the movie appealed beyond Indian people,`` Patel insists. ``As we started showing it at festivals so many people would say to me, `I`m not Indian, but so much of this film I can relate to my own family.` That`s when I realized that the film really has a universal appeal. My writing and directing style is going for a certain realism. If you make characters that are human and real they will transcend ethnic lines.``



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#1207 Posted by harimau on July 6, 2001 2:21:58 pm
Ref AAmir #: 1232

[I respect the GOOD doctor Shankar.]

Yeah. He hates the fact that he is a Hindu, or at least he claims so. That ought to be music to your ears. So, go ahead, respect this man (if he can be called that) for his self-loathing. I prefer to respect those who have pride in themselves.

[Shankar is mopre credible than all of those named above put togethwer.]

I got a rusty knife for that idiot. So anytime you are ready, bring on the mullah, do a little chop chop and have the headshrinker become another Abdullah (Allah`s slave). Maybe he will then start hating Islam.

Please, oh puhleeeeeze, take him.



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#1206 Posted by aicha on July 2, 2001 2:21:36 pm
AAmir

``Haan Salim Bewafa tha ,Do you know Salim.``

errrr sounds like every other man !

I find your stmts are usually loaded and recq a thorough twice-over - so plead no-comment on the rest.

``hum osoolon ke ghulam haine!!!``

and might I add sirf aaap hi nahin lots of other people also.



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#1205 Posted by AAmir on July 2, 2001 4:39:27 am
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#1204 Posted by harimau on July 1, 2001 11:16:01 am
Ref AAmir #: 1229

[Why you are disecting Shankar Bhais post.]

Because that brain-dead idiot poses as a know-it-all on the Chowk and you pathetic fools lap it up when he spews his self-loathing here.

[People mention popular name (celebrities)as point of reference ,to communicate more clearly ,b/c then they remember the land marks.Whether he said Carmivchal ,or altman,or nari point andheri ,IS NOT THE PINT.get it???]

It IS the point. Because, this guy has been making up stories all along here and I am catching him on his inconsistencies. Unlike him (or the rest of you guys and gals here), I have a steel-trap memory and I intend to nail this frigging idiot every time he trips up.

[thaught you were boasting of Jag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

No. Read his posts. My reference to a Jag is to make fun of the Headshrinker.

Anyway, wait till I get my hands on the medical roster in Michigan. I have a strong suspicion that this guy is not a qualified doctor as he claims to be.



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#1203 Posted by aicha on June 29, 2001 10:31:54 pm
AAmir

Pacifist?? This side of yours is quite inconsistent with the AAmir of yore ! Turning a new leaf or were always one?! Hope that doesnt mean we lose the ``salim bewafaa tah`` kind of wit : )!



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#1202 Posted by AAmir on June 29, 2001 7:27:14 pm
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#1201 Posted by harimau on June 29, 2001 11:59:50 am
Ref Headshrinker #: 1214

[In my primary schooldays, I used to go to the same school (Hill Grange) as the Ambani brothers (of Reliance fame). We used to all beg to go to their house, because he had the only authentic table tennis table in his house. Besides he used to live in the tallest ``skyscraper`` in Bombay in the 70s--Usha Kiran. That building was in one of Bombay`s classiest neighborhoods (Altamount Rd).]

Some of us (not those like YLH or the Chowk Editors who always fall for your anti-Hindu views) always knew that you just make up things as you go along.

Usha Kiran is a 24 story building on Carmichael Road, not Altamount Road.

Don`t come up with the bullcrap that the Brihanmumbai Mahanagarpalika (that is Greater Bombay Municipal Corporation to you Urduwallahs) has changed the name of the road.

They would have changed it to something like Kakasaheb Doddering Fool Ashole Road.

[However, when I actually stepped in his flat, it was decorated very simply, no different than the gujjus in my building--I had tons of Gujju friends/neighbors. I`ve seen Anil Ambani coming to play in bare feet :) Thats what I like the most about Gujjus; no snobbishness ``because I have money``.]

You are as likely to have gone to school with the Ambani kids or gotten into their flat as to have landed on the moon.

As for non-ostentation among the Ambanis, the press reported that during Anil`s wedding, the fireworks alone cost Rs. 5 million.

Headshrinker, you have a serious problem.

You want to be seen as a kindly man providing friendly advice on the Chowk and professional advice to your patients.

I think you have gone loco.

Cuckoo.

Over the bend.

Now go take your beautiful wife on a drive along Altamount Road in Bombay in your Jag.



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#1200 Posted by AAmir on June 29, 2001 12:14:55 am
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#1199 Posted by semipreciousme on June 28, 2001 3:37:28 pm
aamir: sarcasm isn`t lost on you, is it?



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#1198 Posted by Bapu on June 27, 2001 11:38:18 am
LIST OF TOP RICHEST DUDES IN THE WORLD!!!

No gujju,or Marwari or Indian here!!!!!

rank name worth ($bil) country

1 Gates, William H. III 58.7 United States

2 Buffett, Warren Edward 32.3 United States

3 Allen, Paul Gardner 30.4 United States

4 Ellison, Lawrence Joseph 26 United States

5 Albrecht, Theo & Karl 25 Germany

6 Alsaud, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal 20 Saudi Arabia

7 Walton, Jim C. 18.8 United States

8 Walton, John T. 18.7 United States

9 Walton, S. Robson 18.6 United States

10 Walton, Alice L. 18.5 United States

10 Walton, Helen R. 18.5 United States

12 Quandt, Johanna & family 17.8 Germany

13 Ballmer, Steven Anthony 16.6 United States

14 Thomson, Kenneth & family 16.4 Canada

15 Bettencourt, Liliane 15.6 France

16 Anschutz, Philip F. 15.3 United States

17 Kamprad, Ingvar 13 Sweden

18 Li Ka-shing 12.6 Hong Kong

18 Redstone, Sumner M. 12.6 United States

20 Kirch, Leo 12 Germany

21 Anthony, Barbara Cox 11.7 United States

21 Chambers, Anne Cox 11.7 United States

23 Kwok brothers, Walter, Thomas, Raymond 11.5 Hong Kong

24 Kluge, John Werner 10.9 United States

25 Slim Helú, Carlos 10.8 Mexico

1 - 25 26 - 50 51 - 75 76 - 100 101 - 125 126 - 150 151 - 175 176 - 200 201 - 225 226 - 250 251 - 275 276 - 300 301 - 325 326 - 350 351 - 375 376 - 400 401 - 425 426 - 450 451 - 475 476 - 500 501 - 525 526 - 538

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#1197 Posted by Bapu on June 27, 2001 11:38:18 am
LIST OF TOP RICHEST DUDES IN THE WORLD!!!

No gujju,or Marwari or Indian here!!!!!

rank name worth ($bil) country

1 Gates, William H. III 58.7 United States

2 Buffett, Warren Edward 32.3 United States

3 Allen, Paul Gardner 30.4 United States

4 Ellison, Lawrence Joseph 26 United States

5 Albrecht, Theo & Karl 25 Germany

6 Alsaud, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal 20 Saudi Arabia

7 Walton, Jim C. 18.8 United States

8 Walton, John T. 18.7 United States

9 Walton, S. Robson 18.6 United States

10 Walton, Alice L. 18.5 United States

10 Walton, Helen R. 18.5 United States

12 Quandt, Johanna & family 17.8 Germany

13 Ballmer, Steven Anthony 16.6 United States

14 Thomson, Kenneth & family 16.4 Canada

15 Bettencourt, Liliane 15.6 France

16 Anschutz, Philip F. 15.3 United States

17 Kamprad, Ingvar 13 Sweden

18 Li Ka-shing 12.6 Hong Kong

18 Redstone, Sumner M. 12.6 United States

20 Kirch, Leo 12 Germany

21 Anthony, Barbara Cox 11.7 United States

21 Chambers, Anne Cox 11.7 United States

23 Kwok brothers, Walter, Thomas, Raymond 11.5 Hong Kong

24 Kluge, John Werner 10.9 United States

25 Slim Helú, Carlos 10.8 Mexico

1 - 25 26 - 50 51 - 75 76 - 100 101 - 125 126 - 150 151 - 175 176 - 200 201 - 225 226 - 250 251 - 275 276 - 300 301 - 325 326 - 350 351 - 375 376 - 400 401 - 425 426 - 450 451 - 475 476 - 500 501 - 525 526 - 538

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where categoryCountry of ResidenceIndustryMarital StatusTotal WealthAge

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#1196 Posted by egalitarian_bra on June 27, 2001 9:47:28 am
semipreciousme: I thought that was a nice picture too (man and burqa-less woman shaking hands in Kabul). Another cool picture is in the washington post today of a NA soldier in his military uniform alongwith his two taliban prisoners. The three are sitting in a restaurant, with full meal of chicken, Afghani naan and salad too in front of each, with talib prisoners eating with elegantly held spoons!! The newspaper caption claims the NA soldier even paid for this lunch!! This is Afghan hospitality at it`s best.

Of course war is never fun and games, and even as we speak there is a battle going on in Kunduz with thousands of men seemingly doomed to a certain death. But what the heck, there is always this other side to things.

al1i: over to you to explain the real reason why the three guys are such good chums and why the NA soldier is investing in this meal...



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#1195 Posted by shankar on June 27, 2001 9:47:28 am
devkant,

{{haven`t the marus made it big?????}}

Didnt mean to discredit marus by leaving them out:) Sure they made it big. Maybe my perception is incorrect, but marus generally tend to stay put in India & make their fortunes in the country. OTOH, Gujjus & Sindhis have gone all over the world & made it big. I`m just relating my personal perceptions (without any scientific backing)..



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#1194 Posted by Shah on June 26, 2001 6:11:32 pm
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