War, What is it Good For?

Stuka:

“And oh yeah, there`s a really cool movie with Kate Winslet in it..I forgot the name. She becomes a cult member, and this American dude comes down to deprogram her.”

….it’s called holy smoke and the american is harvey kietel…pretty interesting with all those hindu gods/goddesses cult fanatics…

scout:

“http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/28/nomani/index.html?x

do you know this lady? maybe you two could work in conglomeration. i have a feeling she`s on the same wavelength as you as far as letting people in america know more about pakistan.”

…..beware, she’s an indian ; )

Geez Louise...just had one of those moments that inspire hamidm so; after dinner, during tea, one of my male in-laws dismissed the Saira Shah/CNN report on Afghani women in Afghanistan under the Taliban as a ``piece of propoganda``...(Is it indeed a genetic disorder that runs in most Muslim men? Can it be treated with medication? Where can I get a prescription?) Of course, I concentrated on my tea, spooning sugar into my cup, stirring the sugar, look outside the window, notice the colors...and, dear readers, said in-laws views on Osama were similarly informative. Bit my tongue just before I said, ``So you have no fear in sending your wife and two daughters to live in Afghanistan.`` Didn`t say anything. And then I left the room. Be aware, male readers; when the woman in the room doesn`t respond to what you are saying, she is being very, very, very polite, and is not in awe of your intellect.

Stuka,

I used to watch South Park sporadically when I was visiting my Ummi Jan, who has cable. My brother introduced it to me; it really rides that eversofine line between hilarious and in awfully bad taste...also Ren and Stimpy...I know that went over pretty well with some crowds; didn`t really watch it enough to say...I think Margaret Cho, who is not a cartoon, but a rather bright and satirical Korean American comedienne is the cat`s meow; once my ma and I watched her do a killer on impression of HER Korean ma. We both were dying and my mother, in between her laughter, managed to gasp, ``Shameless girl!``...and Ben Stiller usually doesn`t dissapoint...so there you have it

regards

slink #103,

hey sister, i`m fine thanks :)

i can`t tell you how good it is to see your name here again. don`t you dare disappear now.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/28/nomani/index.html?x

do you know this lady? maybe you two could work in conglomeration. i have a feeling she`s on the same wavelength as you as far as letting people in america know more about pakistan.

hey temporal...hope all things are beaming at you

saminashah..the company i work for is trying to put together a media swap of some sort (programming) so people living in america get a more realistic idea of what pakistan is really like. we`re tying up with small networks,if you`re interested in hearing more or getting involved, drop me a line at shandana@chowk.com

zafar al talib,

i`ve seen both muriels wedding and strictly ballroom. how scary is that? are you in the wonderful city of lahore?

shandana

p.s: scout..how are you?

Samina

Love the Simpsons. Ok, now I`m really goint to stretch it...d`you like South Park too??

Actually, Sinead sang,``These are dangerous days...`` and not ``interesting`` ...we`re all a little jittery ourselves for even saying that...

As Sinead O`Connor once sang ``...These are interesting days/ to say what you feel/ is to dig your own grave...``

Those who dissent will catch thinly veiled hell. Susan Sontag, well respected theorist who wrote an seminal small book deconstructing the baggage laden metaphors of AIDS developing in the West in the late 80s-early 90s, is apparently the whipping boy of the day. She had the temerity to call the media out on the carpet for ``infantilizing the American public`` during and after the attack by not reporting for several months of, say, the daily US bombing of Iraq.(such a teeny tiny little fact) Bill Maher, albeit no brain-heavy political analyst, on Politically Correct is in hot water for questioning the courage of the US in bombing Iraq`s civillian population; his show`s corporate sponsors are pulling their commercials from his airtime slot. Imagine. The govt., media, multinationals corporations working together on your agenda...yet I`m sure there will be some Chowkies who will say it ain`t so...

As some of my friends and I were discussing over dinner last night, the slightest quaver of interrogation of ``the national agenda`` brands you as unpatriotic. Christmas has come early for the right wing. Make sure your flag is big enough...

regards

Check your Sept. 24 New Yorker Magazine for details

sadna #97,

That was a great article. But then, can`t expect anything less from Salon. All Chowkies, especially the Americans, should read it.

I remember being asked by a teacher here how it was like living in Nairobi. She thought I lived in the middle of the Savannah with wild animals running around, even though I lived in the heart of the city.

In another example, during the Persian Gulf War, a couple of Sikh children in my home town were harrassed. People thought they were Arabs.

Those are just some examples of how naive adult Americans can be.

Save for Americans living in big cities, the rest of small town America do not know the difference between a Native American and a desi, or the difference between an Arab and a Sikh.

http://atimes.com/c-asia/CI29Ag05.html

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/27/stupidity/index.html

AUSSIE MOVIES

Zafar Al-Talib #95:

[....More seriously, the news here in Sydney carried a report on a grenade being thrown into an anti-Taliban MQM demonstration in Karachi. Anybody heard any more, and are all you Karachiwalas ok?...]

---all karachites in the diaspora are safe...the grenade blast did not effect them in any manner or shape...caveat...can only speak with absolute certainty about the two in ontario I know...check dawn or jung or ask jay about others...

...the movie about aussie aboriginal plight that I wrote of was rena owen’s ‘once were warriors-1994’...

...and the other about the blind photographer...was jocelyn moorehouse`s ‘proof-1991’

...other good ones to watch...three from john duigan... ‘the year my voice broke-1987’ and its sequel ‘firting-1991’ and ‘sirens-1994’.... gillian armstrong`s ‘my brilliant career-1979’ and bruce beresford`s ‘breaker morant-1980’...jocelyn moorehouse`s ‘proof-1991’

rgds,

t

Reply Temporal #92

“...frankly my dear!...don’t care two hoots if you are mutallib or talib!...just lay off karachi...it is not on the cards!...or will have cheques from both of them bounce...”

Hey, I was trying to do Karachi a favour and this is the thanks I get.

More seriously, the news here in Sydney carried a report on a grenade being thrown into an anti-Taliban MQM demonstration in Karachi. Anybody heard any more, and are all you Karachiwalas ok?

Stuka,

Thats right, Mad Max is the seminal apocalyptic futurama...I confess I haven`t seen it, but I will check it out, plus the Kate movie-I like her work. But what I really like was the Simpsons episode when the Simpson family must visit Austrailia so that Bart can apologize to the Aussie govt. and people and moons them instead. Sigh. That`s right, as my husband teases me, a grown woman who teaches and watches cartoons...but it really is brilliant and subversive...really, it is...I mean how can it not be when Homer demands, ``Marge, apologize to the t.v.``..

How can you guys not mention the best Autralian movie of all:

Mad Max...Isn`t that Australian? And oh yeah, there`s a really cool movie with Kate Winslet in it..I forgot the name. She becomes a cult member, and this American dude comes down to deprogram her.

Zafar Al-Talib#89

...frankly my dear!...don’t care two hoots if you are mutallib or talib!...just lay off karachi...it is not on the cards!...or will have cheques from both of them bounce...

..and on a less serious note...there were two other movies that I liked...sorry the names woud come back later...one was a dark and stark depiction of aboriginal plight...and the other one was about this blind photographer...

...and not to forget crocodile dundee...and jumping continents...south african gods must be crazy...

rgds,

t