Zarrar Said December 26, 2006
#8 Posted by freethinker on December 30, 2006 7:19:02 am
Zarrar2:
I understand that publishing articles elaborating Darwin`s theory of evolution, is quite difficult in Pakistani media (I might be wrong in my assessment!). But one should keep on trying persistently to publish illustrating the fundamentals of the evolution theory and showing the weaknesses of the opposing ``creationism.`` A change in traditional thinking will take time. It is this kind of negative attitude toward science which is keeping us backward.
In the meantime, Chowk is a worthwhile website. Many people in Pakistan read Chowk. If your arguments are convincing, they will take effect sooner or later. You have to present experimental evidence to support your arguments because nobody will pay attention otherwise. Without experimental evidence, it reduces to ``he said / she said.``
I wish you best of luck in spreading the scientific truths in the Muslim world; it`s a noble undertaking.
Mohammad Gill
I understand that publishing articles elaborating Darwin`s theory of evolution, is quite difficult in Pakistani media (I might be wrong in my assessment!). But one should keep on trying persistently to publish illustrating the fundamentals of the evolution theory and showing the weaknesses of the opposing ``creationism.`` A change in traditional thinking will take time. It is this kind of negative attitude toward science which is keeping us backward.
In the meantime, Chowk is a worthwhile website. Many people in Pakistan read Chowk. If your arguments are convincing, they will take effect sooner or later. You have to present experimental evidence to support your arguments because nobody will pay attention otherwise. Without experimental evidence, it reduces to ``he said / she said.``
I wish you best of luck in spreading the scientific truths in the Muslim world; it`s a noble undertaking.
Mohammad Gill
#7 Posted by zarrar2 on December 29, 2006 11:00:24 pm
Dr. Gill,
Thank you for your remarks. I would like to know how to spread the word. We have tried to contact numerous organizations to stop such madness but to no avail.
Thank you for your remarks. I would like to know how to spread the word. We have tried to contact numerous organizations to stop such madness but to no avail.
#5 Posted by Shah2 on December 29, 2006 8:54:48 am
It seems like (on the birth anniversary of Mr.Jinnah)
the headache that his creation (pak.)causing was it worth it???????????
the headache that his creation (pak.)causing was it worth it???????????
#4 Posted by freethinker on December 29, 2006 6:32:01 am
The author draws attention to a serious problem infesting the Pakistani TV programs. In our irrational dislike for the ``western sciences,`` we refuse to see the difference in what`s right and what`s wrong. Scientists of all kinds of ``beliefs`` and unbelief discover the truth behind the natural phenomena; they don`t have any agenda to mask the truth. People like Harun Yahya and others of the same ilk are motivated to wilfully degrade science believing by doing so, they are doing a great service to their religion. They are indeed doing a great dis-service. Hypocrisy and twisting the scientific discoveries is not sanctioned by any religion.They should instead try to reconcile their religion with the scientific truths, if it is possible.
From this viewpoint, the author`s article is valuable. There is an urgent need to disseminate scientific knowledge and attitude in the print and electronic media in Pakistan. Although at present, it`s difficult because the media are also biased, the effort however should continue.
Mohammad Gill
From this viewpoint, the author`s article is valuable. There is an urgent need to disseminate scientific knowledge and attitude in the print and electronic media in Pakistan. Although at present, it`s difficult because the media are also biased, the effort however should continue.
Mohammad Gill
#3 Posted by parthaab on December 26, 2006 6:26:30 am
A true scholar of his times ( and the future ) : J. K.
http://tchl.freeweb.hu/
http://tchl.freeweb.hu/
#2 Posted by zarrar2 on December 26, 2006 4:40:45 am
Parthaab,
Agree. ``They`` say, ``give me a boy in his first 7 years and I`ll give you the man``.
How cruel a way to enter this world, in an utter delusion which is hard to shake off.
Agree. ``They`` say, ``give me a boy in his first 7 years and I`ll give you the man``.
How cruel a way to enter this world, in an utter delusion which is hard to shake off.
#1 Posted by parthaab on December 26, 2006 4:05:05 am
Religion DEPENDS on brainwashing children for survival.
Give me a child less than 12 years, and I ll make him believe in any god or religion you want me to. From private missionary schools to public `secular` schools, this is the principle applied by religious fans.
From the survey done by the Times of India people with TNS,
Three fourths of Indians are strong believers; 72 per cent of those in their twenties strongly believe in god .
92 % in the north had expressed their belief in God, the figure slipped to 86% in South.
Children are the most influencible and that is why most religious target children to ingrain their blind beliefs, which become hard to erase later in life.
Seeing the direct and indirect religious conflicts around the world, should nt there be a minimum age enforced urgently, say 16, after which children can be exposed to this ``opium`` of the masses?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1978045,00.html
A very timely article, considering the recent exponential growth of superstition and religion.
Give me a child less than 12 years, and I ll make him believe in any god or religion you want me to. From private missionary schools to public `secular` schools, this is the principle applied by religious fans.
From the survey done by the Times of India people with TNS,
Three fourths of Indians are strong believers; 72 per cent of those in their twenties strongly believe in god .
92 % in the north had expressed their belief in God, the figure slipped to 86% in South.
Children are the most influencible and that is why most religious target children to ingrain their blind beliefs, which become hard to erase later in life.
Seeing the direct and indirect religious conflicts around the world, should nt there be a minimum age enforced urgently, say 16, after which children can be exposed to this ``opium`` of the masses?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1978045,00.html
A very timely article, considering the recent exponential growth of superstition and religion.
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