India’s Foreign Policy: An Analysis

Ijaz,
Wonderful photographs. I also did some climbing and hiking in Ladakh, Kashmir, UP and Nepal Himalayas. I will try to find and share some of my photographs of Yamuna basin.

ijaz gul: That is truly fascinating - i.e. to have caves with paintings from neolithic/paleolothic times in baluchistan. If you are able to post pictures of these caves, that would be truly a first I think. Since I dont recall ever seeing such pictures anywhere. The cave paintings in france provided a rich source of info on the kind of animal life in europe in the last 40,000 years or so, and these pictures would no doubt tell a lot about what baluchistan was like back then (in the middle of the desert in Sahara, there are caves with pictures of zebras and other animals no one thought ever lived there).

Your pictures of the sarasvati river bed bring to life what most of us have only heard read about - i.e. the ancient sarasvati river that I understand is referred to in the rig vedas and which probably dried out near the end of the indus valley civilization. It seems likely that these ancient river was around in neolithic times (prior to 6000 BC) as well when there were these pre-indus valley civilization settlements.

1. The first photo is a brackish water (bitter, total dissolved solids >60,000ppm). These in local language are called TARAIS, where cattle can graze but not drink. It is the old bed of River Nara (Srasvati). These dhands dot the entire lndscape along the obscured river bed. This is where I met Raheela. She was approaching from the direction of Umerkot, while a team of Geo in Pajeros was filming her approach. While she moved from South West to North East, I was moving East right upto the Indo-Pak border.
2. This is called the Nara Ridge/faultline. It was basically the study of this fault line that enabled me to be very current on the earthquacke in 2005. These ridges look like pyramids but are actually the folds of the ground. It was probably this tectonic movement and tsunamis that got trapped inland, that the river vanished and salt water lakes were formed. One theory has it that the river changed its course and became Yummna that now flows in India. This photo is taken near Dij Kot.
3. These are those golden sand dunes towering upto 500`. Legend has it that in severe summers though I experienced temperatures upto 52C, they become dry quicksand in which even camels drown. These dunes move a few feet per year. The bowl you see is the hard ground where deer come to sip mosture. We dug a few feet and water began to slowly seep very slowly. Water quality <100ppm. The lonely shadow is mine.
4. These are the granite hills of Nagarparker. Note the two different colors of the ridges. The one that is in the fore ground has clear signs that water once flowed from left to right. This is where Nara river debouched into the Arabian sea.

Thanx for helping out.
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Ijaz, appreciate commentary on each. These are simply beutiful.

I traversed thoe cavs in 1992. Sorry np photos but will try to get them. They had paintings of animals and hands like the ones we find in France.These pics are from NARA.

ijazgul: I checked out the pictures. They do show up (did not require a Yahoo ID). I dont see any caves there though. If you have any of those pictures available, those would be great to see. Since you visited those caves - what kind of things do they have their to indicate human habitation? (like do they have human skeletons only, or artifacts and cave paintings and signs of cooking spots as well as middens (garbage dumps, which often yield a lot of information as well).

Here it is.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ijaz_gul/album?.dir=9c97scd&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
Hope this works, but I think you need a Yahoo ID.
Cheerios

ijaz: you can also provide a link to the place by cutting and pasting the http address in your post. that is much simpler. that way we can all see these pictures you refer to in #269

#269 by ijaz_gul

Pls post your yahoo photo album address. Thanks.

#269 by ijaz_gul on January 21, 2007 11:22am PT

Yahoo photos won`t let you link directly to their images. Use photobucket.

This is the bitter lake where I met Raheela. This is a brackish Oasis, and the old bed of Nara (Sarasvati)River. In local anguage it is called TARAI.


These are the pyramids near Dij Kot. The are the actual Nara Fault or the ridge.


The different shades og granite clearly show the old flow of the Nara river near Nagar Parkar.


This is the typical desert. The lonely shadow is mine.

ijazgul #257 Thanks for your providing the directions to these cro-magnon sites in baluchistan. Definitely off the beaten path. I shall print out your post and save the directions in the hope that one day I will get the chance to see these places for myself. These are I assume from the the neolothic times (pre-6000) or perhaps even earlier (before 10,000 BC). In either case, they would be well before even the indus valley civilization. Do they have any artifacts, wall paintings?

The longest trek I ever did was just a one day thing over 20 miles or so - going up Mount Miranjani then following the pipeline to muree. That is nothing compared to what you have been doing, and iI assume you have done that. but if you havent tried out that route I highly recommend it - great scenery along the path, and no motorized traffic possible of course.


On posting pictures:
1. bring cursor over picture you wish to post, right click mouse and select (with left click) ``picture location`` or ``properties`` from the menu that appears. You will see the ``http:...`` thing there that you copy.

2. Come to chowk page where you type your message (``Your comments``) and type in

(img src = ``http:....``)

That is all. Important: I used ( and ) above. You should use < and > instead. I did not use < or > since that would not post properly as the computer system would assume i am posting a picture!!

On last thing: how about posting some pictures of these caves if you took them? Chowk has the option to post pictures that stay for a long time on the front page.

Re: # 248 Arjun

And just imagine some of the steel for these trucks/buses might come from those recycled railroad tracks....Aw shit!!!

I think civilization is when people do NOT shit by the railroad tracks, and by that measure India is definitely NOT a civilization today. But it was a civilization in those ANCIENT times when there were no railroad tracks. Case solved for India. Now Pakis decide about Pakistan.

Re: # 264 NangaPir

Wow! Hilarious!

TALIBANS EXECUTE HIJACKERS


A summary court is in session in Khendar. Here are the initial breakthrough
findings. You are the judge.
Prime suspect Mujahid Gul Khan`s Statement:

`Twas the night before the Christmas , and God it was neat
The neighbors were both gone, and Sita was in heat
The doors were all boIted, and the phone off the hook
It was time for some nooky, by hook or by crook.
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Sita in her teddy, and I in the nude
Had just hit the bedroom and reached for the lube
When out in the city there arose such a cry,
That I lost my boner and poor Sita went dry.
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Up to the window I sprang like an elf,
Tore back the shade while she played with herself.
The Shiva on the crest of the boulder we`d built,
Showed a broom up his ass, clean up to the hilt.
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When what to my wondering eye should appears,
But a rusty old airplane and five mangy hijackers.
With a fat little pilot, half out of his dhoti
A sock in his ear and a bra on his petuti.
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Sure as I`m speaking, the plane was as high as a kite.
And chief hijacker yelled to pilot, but it didn`t sound right.
Whoa Shithead, whoa Asshole, whoa Stupid, whoa Putz,
Either slow down your father or I`ll cut off your nuts.
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Look out for the airport, and don`t hit the tree,
Quit shaking the plane, `cause I gotta go pee,
They cleared the airport, the tree got a rub,
Just as Gul Khan leaned out and threw up on his shrub.
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(SCENE REPORTED AT AMRITSER AIRPORT, INDIA)
And then from the roof we heard such a clatter,
As each little hijacker now emptied his bladder.
Vajpayee was donnig his jacket to cover his ass,
When down the sky airplane came with a crash.
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(ACCOUNT OF JASWANT SINGH AT KHENDAR)
His suit was all smelly with perfume galore,
He looked like a bum and smelled like a whore.
“That was some brothel,`` he said with a smile,
``The Indians are pooped, and I`ll just stay here awhile``.
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(RELEASED ONE PASSANGER DESCRIBED HIJACKER KHAN GUL AS)
He walked to the kitchen, himself poured a drink,
Then whipped out his pecker and pissed in the sink.
I started to laugh my wife smiled with glee,
The old boy hung nearly down to his knee.
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(TALIBANS THROUGHLY SEARCHED INDIAN PLANE AND FOUND)
Back in the den, Talibans reached in the sacks,
But documents were all gone, and some new things were packed.
The first thing they found was a pair of false tits,
The next was a handgun with a penis that spits.
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(HONEYMOONERS WERE ON PLANE)
A box filled with condoms was the next find,
And a six pair of Panties, the Brahmin kind.
A bra without nipples, a penis extension,
And several other things, that I shouldn`t even mention.
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A cock ring, a G-string, all types of oil,
A dildo so long, it lay in a coil.
``This surf ain`t for passengers, world will shit,
So we`ll leave `em here and then we`ll just split.``
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(PLANE LEAVES FOR INDIA - FINAL MOMENTS)
Indians filled every stocking and then took their leaves,
With one tiny butt plug tucked under their sleeves.
Jaswant sprang to his sleigh, but his feet were like lead,
Thus he fell on his ass and broke wind instead.
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In time he was seated and took the reins of his hitch,
Saying, ``Take me home pilot, this night`s been a bitch!``
The night was near gone when we heard a Mujahid shout,
``The best thing about Jihad is that it never wears out``