Pakistan Shinning II - Propoganda or Reality

#96 by Salim_Chauhan,

No I won`t tell you that ... but E. Pak was an unnatural exclave which should never have been there from the start. B`Desh should have been a seperate country since 1947. There was nothing common ... not even inter-marriages ... though I knew a nice bengali girl in school just like Mushy .. :-)

#94, Zeemax {``Your leader is just a speakerphone with a microphone upended on it. LoL. What a blast.``}

Zeemax,
You are basically a PPP jingoist who comes across as ``his shit doesn`t stink`` type of predictable fool. Now do you understand why many of us don`t want to be in the same country as you? Feel free to secede from Pakistan - and don`t tell me that a majority cannot secede. You guys forced the last majority to leave Pakistan. :)

Dear Pakis,

Nobody in his/her right mind would advocate dictatorship - especially a military one. Everyone wants democracy, but there is no quick fix, no cheap freedom, and no instant cure for insanity. Pakistan has NEVER experienced a sustained even limited democracy. Jinnah was basically a universally-accepted autocrat, a one-man show, who needed no ratification of his whimsical ideas. Muslims have an uncanny habit of elevating even the most mediocre of their leaders to positions approaching divinity.

Democracy means much more than mob rule. Majority rule does not mean that a vote can decide the life or death of any hated minorities, confiscation of their wealth, or designation of their community as non-Muslim, naPaak, or discrimination against them in employment, business, or education. There must be concrete, sacred, and inalienable rights assured to ALL citizens - such as in the Bill of Rights. There must be protection for smaller states/provinces, otherwise Delaware would have never joined the United States.

Pakistan has had only two orderly, legal, and fair transitions of power. The first was in the `50s when the Bengali-dominated Awami League and Suharwardy beat the incumbent Muslim League. The second was when an Urdu-speaking Mohajir COS, Mirza Aslam Beg, transferred power to a victorious Benazir Bhutto in 1989. Forget the fact that Gen Aslam Beg was a chutiya when it came to knowledge of military matters - he was the fool who considered helping the Bosnians achieve military success as a futile effort and bound for failure. But he did supervise fair elections and did not grab power for himself - unlike Ayub, Yahya, Zia, and Mushy.

The question to ask is what replaces Mushy in the future? Another two rounds of twiddle dee and twiddle dum will not do. The military must be there ONLY for the defense of the country against FOREIGN enemas - something it has NEVER succeeded in doing effectively. The military should not become a tool of a single province or ethnicity to lord over the rest of the country. The provinces should enjoy full local power - including taxation, police, education, and local legislation. The days of the One Unit and Basic Democracy crap are over. Will Pakis rise to the challenge or are we to expect more of the same? Throwing bricks, burning tires, and smashing windows are not the solution.

#91 by Salim_Chauhan,

Salim_Chauhan, MQM wins at-least half it`s seats through coercion, just as it carries out shutter-down strikes through coercion. In fact Jamaat-e-Islami is bigger in Karachi (Remember Naimatullah and the work hed did as Nazim?).

MQM is just a goonda-badmash-extortionist thugs group. They go around house to house in the North Karachi, determine each household income, and impose a monthly jagga tax. That is what pays for the Pir Saheb`s upkeep in London and all those day long telephone call speeches ... hahaha ... what a joke.

Your leader is just a speakerphone with a microphone upended on it. LoL. What a blast.

by atif2 on March 18, 2007 5:08am PT
#11 - excuse me injun! pakistan was defeated by just 3 wickets. India got clobbered by 5 (FIVE!) wickets
take that! ``}

So, the PPPs are down to this?
Claiming victory over the Injuns for having only three wickets inserted up their ass instead of the 5 the Injuns inhaled rectally.

Sun Tani and Jeemax,
I have been following your wet dreams about a united Poonzab and honestly, I find myself in total agreement with you. The forced departure of the noble Sikhs from West Punjab created a vacuum that has resulted in this unfortunate half century of hooliganism, PPP misbehavior, corruption, and deadly violence. The brave Sikhs had a history of administration and culture and provided a rule of law and order under the glorious Sikha Shahi based in Lahore.

Having said that, I noticed several problems and being land-locked would be the least of your miseries. I have been following the interesting results of the world cup cricket matches in Maghribi (Pachim) Hindustan. :) Here are some observations:

Physique was not a factor in the outcome of the two significant matches - The team with the better physique won in the Ireland/Pakistan match, but the team with the better physique was defeated in the Bangladesh/India contest.

Height was not a factor - the taller Irish beat the shorter Pakis, but the shorter Bengalis beat the taller Injuns.

Skin color was also not a factor - the white-skinned Irish beat the dark Pakis, but the dark-skinned Bengalis whipped the lighter-skinned Injuns.

Islam was definitely not a factor - the Catholic Irish beat the crap out of the Muslim Pakis (including a recycled apostate), but the entirely Muslim Bengalis humiliated the mostly Hindu Injuns (there was only one Muslim on the losing Injun side).

The number of Punjoo players on each team was a definite factor - The victorious Irish included no Punjus, the losing Pakis were mostly PPP (Paki Punju Paindoos). The successful Bengalis included no Punjus, but the defeated Injuns had a few Punjus. The side with the most Punjus performed the poorest of all four.

These are the facts - now do you really want a united Punjab and field a team consisting of ALL Punjus? :)

#87 Zeemax {``There is NIL prejudice between them (with intermarriages and all other social interactions) except in the minds of MQM types who are miniscule in numbers. ``}

Zee Sahib,
First you rant about the 2/3 majority of the Paki Punjus, then you diminish the significance of MQM influence. In the limited democracy of Pakistan, the MQM has always enjoyed an absolute majority in Karachi and wins all elections in that city - much to the chagrin of the moolas and the PPP. Make up your mind about democracy, majority rule, and demographics. You are making no sense at all, sir.

#88 Zeemax {``My ex-wife was the purest of the pure mohajir from Lucknow ... ahl-e-zabaan you know...... still you condemn me. ``}

Zee Sahib,
Your own words speak far louder than anything I have said. Your ex obviously caught on. :)

#88 by zeemax on March 17, 2007 10:09pm PT


My ex-wife was the purest of the pure mohajir from Lucknow


The one who died a suicide bomber?

#85 by Salim_Chauhan

My ex-wife was the purest of the pure mohajir from Lucknow ... ahl-e-zabaan you know ... still you condemn me. I could also tell you that actually I`m related to Altaf Husain in a distant sort of a way, but then you`ll still condemn me.

I`m just a Pakistani. That`s all. But you condemn me .. boo hoo ...

... contd ...

Mushy Zindabad. Paki Punju Paindoos Murdabad.

Salim, I guess you have more problems at hand. By all indications your mohajir musharraf`s fate appears to be sealed and he may have a worse ending than his predecessors as I had predicted back in 1999 that he`ll be dragged on the streets. USA has begun distancing itself being unhappy over the FATA. NS and Benazir are back on the media. Once a clear signal is given, there`ll be another gallows ready of just the right size for musharraf` neck. He is totally isolated. Shaukat Aziz will escape back to from where he crawled out from.

It is becoming clear that the Geo attack was orchestrated by the Chaudhry`s of Gujrat (remember it was the Punjab Police, not federal, which did it). They have seen the paradigm shift and have ditched musharraf. You might also recall that at the time of the alleged NS attack on Supreme court, Shujaat was the Federal Interior Minister and Pervaiz Elahi the Speaker of Punjab Assembly, and busloads from Gujrat had arrived to witness the SC proceedings against NS. Remember?

Actually, there`s always been a struggle between the Punjabis who are the sons of the soil and the urdu-speaking mohajirs in the beuorocracy, and not anywhere else as you allege. There is NIL prejudice between them (with intermarriages and all other social interactions) except in the minds of MQM types who are miniscule in numbers. I accept the beurocracy struggle for control because that`s what Liaquat Ali Khan was doing and was knocked off by the Hyat`s of Punjab for doing that. So don`t even try to usurp the 2/3rd majority rights of Punjabis through MQM type tactics and threats of secession in cahoots with hindustan (which would be the funniest joke I`ve heard from you on a long time, if it wasn`t shocking coming from a Pakistani).

Biharis Refuse Repatriation to Pakistan

By Abul Qasim Muhammad Shamsul Haque
The Bangladesh Observer
17 March, 2007

Dacca, Bangladesh: Shaikh Muhammad Nur is a leader of the Bihari community - which is a term commonly used to refer to the thousands of Pakistanis stranded in Bangladesh since the surrender of Pakistani forces in 1971.

After watching the World Cup one day cricket match between Pakistan and Ireland, a dejected Mr. Nur announced that his community would refuse any repatriation to Pakistan. ``We knew that the Pakistanis were cowards when they surrendered in humiliation to the victorious Indian Army in 1971. What we did not know is that they were also HijRa losers. It was bad enough that they saved their own skins by surrendering in 1971, but they also abandoned us to the cruel retribution of the Mukhti Bahini. Now they have again demonstrated their inherent cowardice by losing to the Irish cricket team. From now on we will cheer for our Bangladeshi team, which has been victorious with grace and skill. Furthermore, we refuse to go back to our ancient homeland of Bihar, because we want to be associated with victors and not losers.``

Mr. Nur congratulated the Bangladesh national cricket team upon a great victory and prayed for its continued success in the World Cup. He also said ``These Pakistanis always act like the dark-skinned Sudanese ``Arabs`` who somehow justify their persecution and killing of the slightly darker fellow Muslims of Darfur. The Pakistanis discriminated against Bengalis and Biharis who are only slightly darker than themselves. Their continued defeat clearly proves that there is a God.``

There are unconfirmed reports of a significant increase in Bihari applications for asylum status in the Republic of Ireland.

Courtesy, The Bangladesh Observer.

#84. Zeemax,
My friend, your anti-Mohajir views confirm you as a PPP. Being a ``mohajir`` is much more than moving from East Punjab to West Punjab. Your people were welcomed in West Punjab. Our people were told to keep on going to Karachi by West Punjab authorities. We have been systematically oppressed and now killed - something the West Punjabis did not do to your immigrant people.

#77 by Salim_Chauhan,

Well Salim, if I told you (as you said it in a previous post that all people who migrated from Hindustan are mohajirs) that my family migrated from Amritsar at partition, would you then call me one of your own, or would you still call me a Paki Panju Paindoo?

Awaiting your reply. Thanks.

For a country that has no fricking law, there sure are a lot of screaming, shouting, misbehaving lawyers in the Land of the Pure. Can anyone buy a black and white outfit and start to riot?

Reaction in Sindh - obviously there are far more important matters than misbehaving and terrorist lawyers. The treasonous liars are getting no sympathy other than in Poonzab.


SHIKARPUR: CM threatens to dissolve Sindh Assembly

By Our Correspondent

SHIKARPUR, March 15: Sindh Chief Minister Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim has said that the agitation launched by the lawyers and the opposition on the issue of the action against the chief justice can be considered as a conspiracy against national interests

He warned that if the opposition did not change its attitude, he had the right to dissolve the Sindh Assembly.

He was talking to journalists after prize distribution ceremony of Shikarpur Festival in Wazirabad on Thursday.

Dr Rahim said that the lawyers and the opposition leaders were trying to destroy peaceful atmosphere in the country and particularly in Sindh.

Answering a question about a statement made by Leader of the Opposition in Sindh Assembly, Nisar Ahmed Khuhro, the chief minister said that he wanted to serve the people well hence how could he (chief minister) hurl threats to the people. However, he said if Mr Khuhro was taking his very statement as a threat then ‘my threat to him is to avoid unfair attitude of creating confusion between the people and the government.”

Earlier Dr Rahim visited Shikarpur Festival, witnessed the horse and cattle show and sports festival organized by the district government.

District Nazim Mohammad Arif Mahar presented a shield, an Ajrak and a Sindhi cap to the chief minister.

The chief minister gave away shields to Mr Mahar, DCO Khwaja Shafiq Ahmed, festival coordinator Zahid Memon, convenor Dr Abdullah Sethar and deputy convener Abdul Karim Sehto.

Speaking on the occasion, the chief minister said that district governments would be encouraged to hold cultural festivals and horse and cattle shows throughout the province.

Courtesy - Dawn, March 16, 2007 Friday Safar 26, 1428