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Liberation of a Monster

Subhash Gatade April 27, 2007

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#23 Posted by masadi on April 30, 2007 11:30:33 pm
stuka writes <<< `` The fact that the US is hypocritical with only goal in mind--to spread capitalism``

and what is wrong with that? >>>

Let`s see, the 40,000 that die every day due to (distributionally induced) deprivation, a consequence of the policies of those that are dominant players in the global system, and the over 40 million in the US that lead marginal lives and are always on the brink of disaster due to no health insurance, the many countries that are destroyed and the world whose vast majority are FORCED to lead lives of deprivation, and the earth that is being environmentally destroyed...should I go on? The US goal is not to spread capitalism, its goal is to consolidate capital in the hands of the few, the kind of capitalism it practices is a kind of ultra concentrated monopoly capitalism, not too different from the state capitalism of your ``comrades``- the only difference is that the ``comrades`` were not as smart as these US elite. They understand the influence of religion and diversification and setting the agenda of the world, unlike the ``comrades`` who merely reacted to the cat and mouse game the US imposed on them. Hypocrisy is a mild world, it is the higher immorality that the US elite adhere to, and their methodology of goal attainment and mentality reflect on a larger scale the mentality of the self-destructive suicide bombers, they will eventually end up destroying themselves as they destroy the earth...
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#22 Posted by arjun2 on April 29, 2007 5:58:07 am
#11 by chaltahai on April 27, 2007 2:38pm PT

My interests and the county`s interest. What do you have a problem with? Double standard? which country doesn`t employ a double standard?


I`d argue that there`s only one standard: Is it good for the US?

And it`s a good thing that the US does what`s good for the US...heck, just last week, US forces waltzed into paki airspace and bombed a madrassah and a home...
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#21 Posted by arjun2 on April 29, 2007 5:55:03 am
#13 by SaimaShah on April 27, 2007 6:11pm PT


with only goal in mind--to spread capitalism


You can fight back!! Refuse to participate in the capitalist system of bondage...refuse to export to the US...!!
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#20 Posted by harimau on April 28, 2007 5:57:38 pm
Impotent left-wing retards such as the author can only rail against the US.

Invade the US and capture Louis Posada Carriles if you can. The US at least invaded Afghanistan and engineered a regime change in its bid to capture Osama bin Laden.

What the author and other left-wing nuts really need is a gonads transplant.
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#19 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 28, 2007 6:51:14 am
Re: # 18
Wrong topic ? Misplaced article, what is there in this about Pakistan or India is big puzzle to me.
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#18 Posted by stuka on April 28, 2007 1:03:23 am
``For the benefit of us Asians can you disclose the amount you paid to buy this ruler called the US.``

I did not pay anything. Just have the desire to be free.

`` Are there other varieties available at competitive prices? ``

Depends. Do you want social, economic and political freedom? Or are you willing to compromise for a false ideology?
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#17 Posted by HP on April 28, 2007 12:50:52 am
Eat your heart out...


Cheney Converts to Islam

Posted by Eric Kenning

Keith Ellison, a Democrat from Minnesota, was sworn in as the nation’s first Muslim member of Congress in early January, but he is not the highest-ranking Muslim official in the United States. That honor belongs to Vice President Dick Cheney, who during one of his many trips to Saudi Arabia in the 1990s on behalf of Halliburton secretly converted to Wahabbi Islam, a rigorous fundamentalist version of the faith. In 1997, according to sources in Riyadh, Cheney visited the dusty provincial town of Bakh-Asward, a Wahabbi stronghold, where he realized he had found exactly what he was looking for, a religion that was grim, rancorous, authoritarian, and violent, and yet, on the other hand, insane.

Since that time, Cheney has been working tirelessly to restore the medieval Islamic empire, or caliphate, in the Middle East and has actually been toying with the idea of naming himself caliph, or at least pulling strings behind the scenes as vice caliph. The centerpiece of this secret strategy has been the carefully planned and executed war in Iraq, which has done so much to raise the prestige and power of jihadists in that country and elsewhere. That’s why Jihadtime magazine, a weekly published out of a cave somewhere between the lawless Pakistani border region of North Waziristan and the lawless Afghan border region of South Wazooistan, sent Cheney a copy of its year-end issue with a mirror on the cover, which proclaimed that “Our annual ‘Person of the Year’ is you--yes, you, along with all the other neo-armchair warriors out there who have done so much for our cause.”

Cheney has kept his faith a private matter, choosing not to reveal it to President Bush, a sincere Christian who has vowed to read the entire Bible someday, just as soon as he finishes My Pet Goat. But it has led to considerable tension in the Cheney household, where the devout veep unrolls a prayer rug and prays five times a day facing toward an oil well just outside Mecca. In particular, his conversion to Wahabbi Islam has led to bitter arguments with his daughter Mary, who converted to an entirely different sect, Wasabi Islam, while having dinner at a fusion sushi and shish-kebab restaurant in Georgetown last month with her partner Heather Poe. The heated exchanges between father and daughter have been further complicated by the fact that Cheney’s wife, Lynne, is a devotee of the ancient Egyptian snake goddess Irma.

Cheney’s strict adherence to militant Islam has also caused problems with his fellow neoconservatives, most of whom are equally devout, but adhere to a rival sect, militant Bedlam.

Eric Kenning is the pen name of a writer in New York. He can be reached at eric_kenning@hotmail.com.

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#16 Posted by samar1982 on April 27, 2007 10:31:44 pm
#15, stuka,


`...the ability to choose my rulers, buy and sell what I wasnt and make my own destiny.`

How nice! That`s the best way to be free, really. For the benefit of us Asians can you disclose the amount you paid to buy this ruler called the US. Are there other varieties available at competitive prices?

Samar
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#15 Posted by stuka on April 27, 2007 7:29:43 pm
`` The fact that the US is hypocritical with only goal in mind--to spread capitalism``

and what is wrong with that?

`` and use religion to destabilize threatening regions is a fact that most of us know and have rationalized because a large majority of the world lives to consume.``

I beg to differ. The US did not initiate the use of religion. It just so happened that the Comrades did not like religion as it was an alternative power center and so the primary opposition in that part of the world came substantially from those who were religious. I don`t want to go on another Pak bashing spree but I would like to state that Pakistani sources themselves state that the US was pretty agnostic about dispersal of cash and weapons as long as it went to those who killed Russians. If religion worked great, if something else worked, that`s fine too.

``That is why you speak to deaf ears and that is why US is not answerable to any authority, because everybody wants a big house, a big car, a fancy computer, fashionable clothes and success.``

Again, only those make statements like this who have not waited 8 years for a damn scotter or stood outside a Ration Card shop like so many bhikaris. I am free. And I want to remain free. My freedom encompasses both economic and political freedom; the ability to choose my rulers, buy and sell what I wasnt and make my own destiny. These comrades have never allowed freedom to the individual and rant about hypocricy and imperialism? All of us may not aspire to big cars, but we do aspire to have the freedom to aspire. Neither you nor this moronic author can take that away from us.

`` People do not connect that injustice today may mean more injustice tomorrow. And people do not realize the consequences of their indulgences--both environmental and social justice. For example, we choose to kill Iraqis to have SUV`s in America. At the end of the day it is about power. In that narrow world view, any cries of foul play translate to only this: You want what I got. ``

What?? Even if Iraq is about SUVs (a rather simplistic slogan) that negates all the US has stood for? The US can also be blamed for Vietnam where it went in to fight Communism and ended up fighting Nationalism. But look at Vietnam today..aspiring to be today what the US wanted it to be yesterday. Instead of being at the level of a Korea or a Thailand, it`s just another struggling country. And Sibhas Gatade wants us to follow that unfortunate system..or even worse..Cambodia.
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#14 Posted by khamy1 on April 27, 2007 6:45:19 pm
Re: # 7
... i agree with kulli...us must support it`s operatives...i wonder if osama bin ladin the great hero of the russo-afghan war has already been granted asylum...and is being pampered somehwere by the cia bosses for further use in future...maybe in soodi arabia...;)
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#13 Posted by SaimaShah on April 27, 2007 6:11:21 pm
Dear writer

Appreciate the information in this article. The fact that the US is hypocritical with only goal in mind--to spread capitalism and use religion to destabilize threatening regions is a fact that most of us know and have rationalized because a large majority of the world lives to consume. That is why you speak to deaf ears and that is why US is not answerable to any authority, because everybody wants a big house, a big car, a fancy computer, fashionable clothes and success. People do not connect that injustice today may mean more injustice tomorrow. And people do not realize the consequences of their indulgences--both environmental and social justice. For example, we choose to kill Iraqis to have SUV`s in America. At the end of the day it is about power. In that narrow world view, any cries of foul play translate to only this: You want what I got.
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#12 Posted by Shah2 on April 27, 2007 5:11:54 pm
#11 Chaltahai are you pissed off they did not publish your article as yet
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#11 Posted by chaltahai on April 27, 2007 2:38:44 pm
it is not hypocitical. It is US interst. My interests and the county`s interest. What do you have a problem with? Double standard? which country doesn`t employ a double standard?

name one..if you can`t name one..then go back to the chowk editorial staff and ask them to remove this trite shiite off the board.
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#10 Posted by Kulharee on April 27, 2007 12:59:48 pm
Re: # 9


If that is already not the case. as if. But Dr Saab, all I am saying is that there is so much other stuff that one can find to show the duplicity of the US in terms of its global goofups. The problem is that anti-American groups pick up on stuff that is no short of laughable if not outright ludicrous. This whole Posada episode, at best, it will be a so so plot for a b-rated movie. A guy escapes prison in some Latin country, where he was rotting in Jail without a “proper” trial, asks for asylum (after being caught) in the US based on the work he did for CIA 45 years ago. Wao.. I am really moved, and I am sure the whole world is too.

Dr Saab and Strom, I understand where you are coming from. I really do.
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#9 Posted by DrDr on April 27, 2007 12:39:24 pm
kul we r way past the nazi era - now habeaus corpus is practically suspended on acc. of the wot - why mollycoddle others` terrorists - what wud u say if venezuela gave asylum 2 al zawahiri?
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#8 Posted by thinkingstorm on April 27, 2007 12:27:24 pm
#5
Kulharee-

Well you are right. No one is shocked, or dismayed. One expects the powerful to do what it wants.

But the guy is a known terrorist, has bragged about it, and sneaked into US illegally. The charges he was captured on are ``illegal entry``, immigration related. It is hypocritical to cry about the war on terror and keep people illegally detained without proof, and then letting go a self confessed terrorist without hesitation.

Canada has done wrong with the ex Nazi`s (And so has every other country on some other moral issue), but that does not make the Posada thing correct.

I am with you on the ``loving the old US of A``, there are a lot of great things about this place. But I do not defend its wrongdoings either.

With respect,
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    #22 arjun2
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    #20 harimau
    #19 ahmedmadani
    #18 stuka
    #17 HP
    #16 samar1982
    #15 stuka
    #14 khamy1
    #13 SaimaShah
    #12 Shah2
    #11 chaltahai
    #10 Kulharee
    #9 DrDr
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