Awake, the Wretched of My Land

YLH,

Let me hear one example of Gandhis role in present day pakistan. The bhumian budhas survived the gaznavis and the ghoris. It is not able to survive the jihadis of pakistan.

My theory is simply TNT, muslims cannot live with people of other religions. This was taught by the pakistani mullahs in teh nadrassas and that is why teh statues are gone. TNT is a political ideology that made the islam very virulent, and that is why second generation pakistanis come to pakistan, get trained and bomb london buses.

Tell me why such a virulent strain is engulfing pakistan. It is not due to the version that orighinated in India, it is not due to Gandhi, but why is it so potent in pakistan today and increasing. If extreme islam is an indian creation, why not even a single indian is in guntaname while that is most paki crowded place outside of karachi.

Re: # 7

How about someone trying to trace back every Pakistani
ill to Mullah freaks all the time?

jayp the liar,

Are you still distorting the argument. The only reason one feels compelled to expose Gandhi the racist casteist misogynist hindu supremacist bigot in his true light is when you try and come up with the humbug of trying to trace back every Pakistani ill to its creation.... when most of the Mullah freaks you see were always allied with the Congress...

Mohammed 3,

The lack on interest in your articles by the pakistanis is teh proof that there are no wretched in pakistan, pakistan is a country doing very well, and the pakistan that you are seeing is something unique to you and is not shared by any one else.

Next time if you think of writing write about the press freedom in pakistan, how beautiful the people are and the terrorism and wana troubles are due to long dead gandhi. You can find a whole lot of pakistanis interetsted.

You are a self critical pakistani who wnats to improve the situation, and you are alone in that veiw.

Re: # 3
Mr. Dash, Dot, Cipher, or whatever:
There is nothing pretentious about establishing a set of assumptions that define basic ideas of a viable social, political, and economic system in Pakistan. Most civil societies embrace these assumptions. I was hoping to invite a range of informed discussuion within this set of assumptions so we can enhance the strength of the assumptions, ingraining them in our minds as the entire possible spectrum of opinion that there is. Your tirade is irresponsible and insults other Pakistanis who have a clear vision of what Pakistan should look like. You just run your mouth?

before he ventures with thrid stuff= before he ventures out with his third marketting guff

so there I am on a cold saturday morning at work - marking Course work, and some resit papers - while trying to sort out a submission to the EC.

So yes I am bored out of my wits - undergraduate and postagraduate writes are pretty piss-poor these days.

Thought let me have some decent intellectual activity and logon onto chowk.
What do I see but he following

"Pakistan must learn from its turbulent past to save its future. It must confront its demons and restore democracy as a just and fair a system of government that is self-sustaining and guarantees civil society with protections from various forms of oppression—, political, military, institutional,religious, economic, educational, and intellectual. But in fighting for such a system, Pakistanis must refrain from brutality and other tools of oppression that are self-defeating"


I mean how more pretencious can you get? Which world does the author live in? Thiw is a write by an marketing MBA wiz-kid with a screwed up mind. THis is marketing speak and by jove the rest of the article would not be out of place in a INSURANCE SALESMAN convection where the chair is giving the annual pep-talk.

This guy out to read the likes of

(a) YLH
(b) Ferok
(c) HP
(d) zeemini
(e) Captian, Feild Marshall, Air Cheif Marshall, First Lord of Seas Romair

before he ventures with thrid stuff.

There I never thought I would ever be so blunt and miserably insulting to anyone - but this article takes the cake

Author,

You're shooting off unsubstantiated propaganda.

If NS was corrupt as BB, how come there're no corruption cases* against either him or his brother while dozens pending against BB and her husband; and that both the former actually arrived to face whatever other charges but were deported instead of being tried, while both the latter left Pakistan on medical grounds and have since been absconding and playing delaying tactics in court proceedings through expert shysters like Farook Naik, and have now made a deal so they wouldn't have to face courts while the former still don't want any part of it?

Please desist from ignorant rantings.

(* don't mention Hudaybia Paper Mills because that isn't a corruption case but an alleged bank default which was settled by handing over the mills to the banks. The NAB case is just over its valuation).

Mohammed,

You must be new to chowk. You have not read the posts by YLH, pakistan has tremendous economic growth, there are no slums in pakistan, hindus and christians live as equals in pakistan, all in accord with the one speech by MFJ to the parliment.

To know the real pakistan, you have to listen to YLH and tahmed.