Don’t Hang Sarabjeet

Pakistani legal system..well if only they had one. Take the case of national accountability bureau cases, all those..sorry only a few who have been charged have been left free and all cases withdrawn

Then the muktaran mai case. Initially no one was charged per the hoodood law..then five were charged and then ..wait for it, four sentenced to death foe rape in pakistan..well because mushy wanted it to appease the western media.

That is the legal system of pakistan and you talk about any one found guilty by a court in pakistan, what value what credibility any pak system has got, zilch

Re: # 162 Iqbal.

If Indians don't mind sarbjeet getting hanged, then we have no issue. Rest of your post is immaterial. You had 8 years to challenge the legal system, which you didn't. Questioning lax security is no defence and neither it can exhonorate anyone. Case closed.

Re: # 158
DM
Ans: This is possible. Provided, Indian Govt. does not release somebody like Omar Seikh. All the released prisoners from Kandahar Hijack, later proved to be fatal and carried out more henious crime...

Dear Moeed,masadi and Urstruly

The question of hanging Sarabjeet doesn’t arrive. We, Indians don’t mind hanging Sarabjeet provided he is guilty and has really committed the crime. Tell me if the accused Sarabjeet is left free and tomorrow commits a heinous crime in India, Will the Indian Government paradon or exonerate him. These are the questions to be answered. Not only that the witness in this case has taken a 360 degree turn. Some of the relatives of the victims have said they will commit suicide if the accused is left free. But first I ask u honestly to answer my question. What were the pakistani intelligence officials and police agencies doing when Sarabjeet crossed the Border with the Bomb. Where they (Police officials)sleeping or munching peanuts when he was planting the bomb. Since there was no fence or barbed wires, he might have actually slipped across the border. How is it possible for one person single handedly to orchestrate bomb blasts in different cities viz (Lahore, Multan & Islamabad). There must be some local people or local conspirators involved in this crime.

Regards

Iqbal

Urstruly,

Ur points sound plauible but India doesn't resort to Qoranic path to resolve this issue.

Prez of Pakistan is a titular head as on date therefore final decision on Sarabjit wud be taken by the govt of the day; given what the top guys who matter tell, there's a way out for the guy.

The stakes for India as very high as the intevention at the top-most level was applied in this case. So Pakistan wud play ball. Moreover the visit of the Foreign Misniter was fixed during this month followed by PM's slated visit sometime this year. Reckless Pakistan under Mush (if the Gillani's govt is dissolved) wud alone do some adventurous thing......

Instead of guessing abt the outcome, I'd prefer to rely on the key factors in this case. The qisas angle of Qoran is not on table for India at all. Lets see.

Re: # 159

Hey you half-hanood Salim Chauhan, what's your problem?... let pakis free the dude, he has suffered enough... if you have a dude on other side of the border, let's talk about an exchange... otherwise let him go...

The braggging and boasting bravado of self-admitted Indian spy Kashmira Singh upon his release does not help the cause of Sarabjit Singh and that Paki fool Ansar Burney. Of course the mutilated and tortured corpse of Khalid Mehmood taught all foolhardy Pakis the lessons of misplaced clemency for convicted Indians.

#156:

For saving the life of Sarabjit Singh, I think that a swap of prisoners is still a possibility; but to achieve that Indian diplomats will have to display much greater political savvy than they have done so far.

#155155:

I am suggesting that in a case of terrorism allegations involving the citizen of an enemy country with sensitive bilateral relations, political interference cannot be ruled out; whether or not such interference took place I have no way of knowing.

Re: # 154 DM

Try telling that to the dictator's government that his courts are not fair therefore let sarabjit go. I think you are not fully comprehending the garvity of the situation where the life of a man (presumed innocent by many) hangs in balance, and you are trying to engage in ideological debates?

There are only two possible ways to save Sarbjit's life:

1. Either this dicator commutes his sentence, chances of which are becoming bleaker as 1 pakistani per week is being extrajudicially executed in Indian jails.

2. The legal council of Sarbjits files a petition to invoke the law of Qisas. That will buy GOI sometime while they continue their diplomatic efforts on option# 1 as well. Thus GOI will have some leverage.

AS for Sarabjit, frankly, no one in India or Pakistan gives a shit whether he lives or dies. After he is hanged there will be hue and cry for about 7.5 days and no one will remember him until India will hang a pakistani in reciprocation.

#154
"Remember what happened when the CJ took some decision not to the liking of the men in khakis?"

What?
Mostly governments interfere in politically motivated cases.
I doubt that there is much interference in any court system over the criminal proceedings. Unless the case is against a politician and politically motivated.

CJ Iftikhar Chaudry was not removed for some criminal cases. He was asking that people be prosecuted, if there are cases against them. He wanted missing persons to be produced before the courts for prosecution.
He was also running political cases about Mush's election etc.

Urstruly#153:

Are you suggesting that Pakistani courts under military rule were independent of political pressures and decidedly solely on the basis of untainted evidence? Remember what happened when the CJ took some decision not to the liking of the men in khakis?

Besides this case, how many other cases do you know of mercenary,indulging in such acts? Whether it was Sri Lanka, Nepal, Ireland, India or Pakistan ideological considerations seem to be the primary motive.

Re: # 152

What you say is heresay and has no value as an evidence in court of law that could save sarabjit's life.

So far, paid operatives are not commonly known for planting bombs in the trains; this is another reason why this case is so suspect.

Re: # 150
what about the poor blokes who plant bombs in the trains?

Intelligence operatives and agents:

People who cross the border on behalf of intelligence agencies are not "agents" as the term is generally understood. These are poor, poorly educated people who are paid lump sum amounts by the intelligence agents and helped to cross the border to bring some low level information. I know that in the old days, agennts of both countries preferred to recruit Christian Punjabis who had relatives on the other side and could easily merge in the host society. Looks like they have run out of Christians now. But these poor blokes should not be confused with agents on the regular payroll of intelligence agencies.