Singur and the Small Entrepreneur in India

NB, Majumder...
It is Devi for ladies (Ashapurna Devi, Mahasweta Devi), like Babu for Gentleman....(Postfix)...

Paki...
"Most of the skilled workers in Karachi are gigantic Pathans with big clumsy hands that cannot possibly squeeze into the small, narrow, and congested areas to tighten the little screws...."

Pakiland is great!!! But don't you guys pack your family ( 2-3 wives, 5/6 children) on 70 CC, two stroke motor cycles or Suzuki Alto?


They can do that on smaller vehicle like Suzuki Alto....

Deal is out: Win-win for Tata, Gujarat

TIMES NEWS NETWORK November11, 2008

Gandhinagar/ Ahmedabad: If this is the deal, it is a win-win situation for both Tatas and Gujarat. A loan of Rs 9,570 crore and that too at an amazingly soft 0.1% simple rate of interest. That’s the big sweetener along with other carrots that the Gujarat government is understood to have doled out to draw Tata’s Nano project to Gujarat.

This, as per a document circulating in Sachivalay on Monday which the Modi administration refused to either confirm or deny was authentic. The government has denied the information sought under the Right to Information Act to the media.

If the document is official, it is a deviation from Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s hard stance on sops. But then look at it another way. Tatas need only Rs 2,900 crore for setting up the Nano plant, including the relocation cost of Rs 700 crores. The remaining Rs 6,670 crore will be spent on infrastructure development, including roads and rail, gas pipelines, effluent treatment plant, electricity, water and all that goes in the name of providing infrastructure to the Nano plant.

This infrastructure will be of use not only to Nano but to fuel the CM’s vision of turning Gujarat into a global auto hub, as more players follow the Nano trail from Singur to Sanand. It is just that Modi is picking up the bill first and Ratan Tata is paying back in easy instalments spread over 20 years. The document is believed to have been put before the Cabinet for approval. Just to give an idea about the size of the loan, it would be a quarter of Gujarat government’s annual budget of Rs 40,000 crore. Tatas have got their share too. They get a 100% exemption on electricity duty in addition to a concessional power tariff. The 1,100 acre land comes highly subsidised without any stamp duty, registration and transfer charges. The payment for land would be made in eight equal annual instalments at a compound interest of 8% per annum.

THE DEAL

Tata wants only Rs 2,900 cr for Nano plant
Infrastructure cost of Rs 6,670 cr also billed to Tatas
Repayment of Rs 9,570 cr loan @ 0.1% over 20 years

THE SWEETNERS

100% exemption on electricity duty
Concessional power tariff
1,100 acre land comes cheap
No stamp duty, registration and transfer charges
Payment for land in 8 equal annual instalments

How the Nano deal is structured

Gandhinagar/ Ahmedabad:

The soft loan of Rs 9,570 crore that the Gujarat government has offered to Tatas will have to be repaid by them in 20 years but the repayment schedule will be linked to the VAT outgo on production capacity of 2.5 lakh cars in first phase.
For first four years, Tatas will have to repay the state government at 200% of the gross VAT payments per month. Estimates are that Tatas will have to pay an annual VAT of Rs 375 crore to the government based on its declared phase one annual capacity of 2.5 lakh cars. This means, the company will have to pay three times this amount or Rs 1,125 crore to the government as its loan repayment for the first four years.

Thereafter, repayments will reduce to 150% of its VAT payment till the state government recovers 150% of the proposed Rs 2,900-crore investment that Tatas will put up in phase one. This repayment will further come down to 100% of the VAT payment over the following years.

Various infrastructure facilities to be provided by the state government to Tatas include construction of a two or four-lane road connecting the project site, construction of a natural gas pipeline to the site, a 200-kva power supply, a 14,000-cubic metre per day water at the project site as well as facilities for waste disposal.

The state government has also promised to provide facilities for development of a ‘Tansportnagar’ on a publicprivate partnership for loading/unloading, lodging and boarding and other facilities in addition to providing 100 acres of land near Ahmedabad for a township at a later stage.

The leak of details of the sops being offered to Tatas, which has been a closely guarded secret, is understood to have set off a scramble within the CMO to find out how the document got leaked. The note was prepared by state industries department on the basis of the MoU with Tatas to get it approved by the Cabinet.

Info on Nano project denied under RTI


Note that the land is fertile land, belonging to the Anand Agricultural UNIVERSITY, is TOTALLY FREE OF COST.

In years gone past, if you went to any middle class restaurant in the South and said "Babu Rao", then if not the manager then at least the senior waiter would respond to the call.

Somehow "Babu" became "baboo" and that became a nickname.

"Doctor babu" is a term used for all doctors, regardless of gender.

"Babushka" is used in Russia also, as a term of endearment?

One school of thought has it that the term "London Bobby" was also derived from the Indian "babu".

#37,38.
Now I feel there may not be female babu term. This term may have (?) have started with british East India establishment in Culcutta. At that time british would not employ females. The babu term appaers to be related to office job for british officers adding prestige. Or Babu term derived from "Bhadralok".
Di may be more related to"JI" or Haji haji of central proviences. Even today like peole will refer to mrs Madam Soniyaji Gandhiji as " Madam Soniyaji".
Other than Bengal Babu and Babugiri are derogatory term it appaers.
Good day

Didi is the equivalent of dada, not babu.

Ahmedmadani sahib,

What is equivalent to Babu for females.

Very often, "di" is attached - like Mamata di.

While mr. Basu or Buddhadev etc are never referred with tail of Babu.

They are. Mr Jyoti Basu is called Jyoti babu, Mr. BB is referred to as Buddha Babu

Regards

Just curiosity about Bengal custom and ethos so some body can answer without btwists.

What is equivalent to Babu for females.
Is babu attached to name is complimentary or derogatory.
Great indian patriot Mr. Bose is refered many times "Desh Gaurav SubhasBabu", defenitely not derogetory. While mr. Basu or Buddhadev etc are never referred with tail of Babu.

Are brother or relatives any time refered with Babu.

If correct in maharata state when man reaches and show qualities he becomes Rao. IS Babu used only when you have done something out standing ? It is absolutely not clear. Or first indian president as refered as RajPrasad Babu , sure was honarory attached kitab.

Language is strange only some times person in depth understands.
Here Babu is equivalent to lazy Kachheri going person and who never answers except I do not know and is always busy in something except office work.

Babu= NaukarShah is literal meaning here

Good day.

What is asic ? Shortform for

Ratan Tata has rendered a great service to the nation, and I think like all Tatas, acted for public good though he lost considerable time and money in the process. He could have compromised as politicians, right and left, were expecting him to do. Loss of Mamata Banerjis vote market will serve her and other of her ilk a lesson.

I hope that some other politicians who pander to vote banks and not to public welfare like Mayawati, Thakres etc will also take a lesson. It was already visible when Mayawati backtracked on railways coach factory land in Rai-Bareily when famers's land etc.. etc.. backfired on her.

#22 ahmedmadani {"If Parthaab does not want Tata why not ask him to come to Karachi and take over Pakistan Steel mill for start followed by Nano Plant in Hub Industrial estate"}

Madani Sahib,
While you have a great idea for producing the Nano in Karachi, I must disagree with the actual implementation details. You see, the Nano is a miniature vehicle - you can consider it a lawn mower with small seats to envelope the scrawny posteriors of swarthy aborigines. Most of the skilled workers in Karachi are gigantic Pathans with big clumsy hands that cannot possibly squeeze into the small, narrow, and congested areas to tighten the little screws. That is the main reason why Tata considered producing this toy in Calcutta. Sorry!

Sincerely,
Salim Ahmed Chauhan

Majumder....
Please don't see everything evil from this CPI(M) Govt.During Congress Govt. work culture was equally bad....

NB...
Frankly speaking, most of the farmers in WB have very small land holding. For them,earning from land is at most 25000/PA. That is just enough to feed and school education for their children. Now a days, higher eductaion is quite expensive and you need some extra income (other than farm income) for that...
People of Singur were offerred almost twice the market price. Some people relied on Mamta to put pressure on GoWB, such that last couple of farmers get much bigger amount. Now Tatas left, Mamta have prey heavy price in Singur. Praying namaz on roads will not work.....
I am pretty sure, next time I visit my village, I will try to influence TC workers, to shift their loyalty....


Majumder/NB...
For natural reason, personaly, I feel, there should not be any large industry in naturally irrigated areas like Singur. I was surprised, why Tatas have not accepted the offer in Kharagpur or Burdwan....
I will say Ratan Tata should have been little more modest while dealing with Mamta Banerjee. Banking too much on CPI(M)....He should not have avoided referrening to Mamata, while unveiling the first NANO in New Delhi auto show...

Nb di, Nkg moshai, Others,

The fault was not of Tatas but of GoWB for acquring land forcefully and without due compensation.

Nkg moshai, WB became an industrial wasteland long before Nano- in the 1960s due to the strike culture and militant unionism sponsored by the Commies. Now whose fault was that? Did the Bong themselves vote in the Coomies or did outsiders impose Commies on WB?

Regards

Veeresh, forget about the Nano, why should farmers have to sacrifice their little for cheap cars? I'd rather hear more about Netaji and the Gulag.

Majumder,Viresh.....
Bongs hate to work, so they are against Tata Nano project in Bengal!!!!
The first automobile factory in India was established at Hooghly district, some 40/50 KM away from proposed Tata Nano site. HM was doing roaring business for more than 50 years....

Population denstity of Indian cities are so high, it will tax nature extreamly, if we come up with such kind of vehicles like Tata Nano. For building infrastructure, we need some land. GoWB is not finding land to widen NH34....In current situation, is not possible to allocate land in South Bengal, specialy in East Midnapur-Hooghly-Howrah-East Burdwan belt...
GoWB offered Tata 3 alternate sites to Tatas. Tatas were very much adamant on Singur. CPI(M), desparate to bring tata, agreed on Singur, fully knowing that some farmers may not like the idea. A cultivable land, with history of more than 1000 years of agriculture, can not make away for a factory, people do not know, how many years it will survive....

http://profit.ndtv.com/2008/11/07192252/Tata-Motors-to-shut-Luckn ow-P.html

Re: # 23

Veeresh, The history of the Tatas and their recent transformation, might well be forgotten in our country of WORSHIPPERS - of industrialists, feminists and the soopernatural ( not necessarily in that order ).

Pls explain your question "Why only the Tatas, why not the rest of them, and by that I mean those who were given the keys in 1947?"

As for those here, who suspect my True love for the Nano, I do proclaim that I do NOT hold anything against the small car. But its the blatantly arrogant method of it being made, that raises such a stink, considering India is now a democracy, unlike in the times of JNehru.

AM, I can understand those are just your own opinions. You are hence excused ;)

Thanks Veeresh/Majumdar/Salim for writing article and commenting.. Greatness of Mr. Tata lies in catching and popularising idea middle to lower class Indian family can aspire to have freedom of movement. The idea was similar to pc. Hopefully hundreds of millions Indians can have freedom of movement. Only future will tell if his company was successful or others will be successful but history will note that this man seeded the idea of "people's car.
Computers changed not economics of India real change happened they understood and were happy they can be somebody in world market. Great psycological boost same way a family man can stand on earth and open door of car for new experience for family. He can have same joy as only few wealthy families have. It can be said mr.Ford Sr similary thought and gave mobility to American nation, Tata will do same. One can say very very wealthy world class rich man demolishing rich people's elite dreams of ownership of 4 wheel vehicle.
It is very clear technical advances when they reach mass production and access for masses to new technology have more significantly impact on social , political, economic,sexual( like introduction of family control ways) psycological( new drugs for depression )( social, political and economical effects are too obvious). The key is mass production of tech, producrts and rational prices for large number of people. These technologists are dreamer and they start some little things as Herbingers of coming future. For this such men and women should be respected.

I will ask Parthaa to forgive me what I wrote was imprudent and in anger. At my age there shuold be sublimation in actions and reactions as we are over hump and should listen more.

I will ask Parthaa to listen to music and be happy.
THis is typical Kirana presentation in maru bihag as their speciality is melody.
Second bandish is in Drut Trital , ( all women are not predatory) but caring also. Lady is waiting and awake... Jagoon May Sari Raina Balama,Man Lagena Mora Rasiya...

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/f271772b-c144-42ad-91e0-b8da40a7ca25/Pr abha-Atre-Kal-na--Marubehag-Ektal.mp3

1.http://www.esnips.com/doc/373219bc-39 63-4d70-b360-959f130d106e/Prabha-Atre-jaagu-na--Marubehag-teental.mp3