Open Letter to all Pakistanis: Bombay, Faridkot and Us

PM, ludicrous analogies are an attempt to drive home the point better than logical analogies :)

Hyperbole and exaggeration are tools used in desperation - when the other person will not yield to logic (just like Pakistan govtt will not yield to all the evidence thrown at its face).

At least you could realize that ;)

kcs,

"Now if you had two sons, one always committing mischief, and the other always obedient,... "

Sorry, but I couldn't get myself to read past that ludicrous analogy. Now what to do!?

Yasser, appreciate your honesty. More power be unto you.

Re# 220 PM,

"Anyone remember a train named SamjhoTa? If the Indians (media mostly) could so assuredly and rapidly blame Pakistan for an attack on a train carrying a majority of Pakistani travellers, it's a good indication of the level of knee-jerk involved in their reactions."

What to do, Pakistan has spoilt the Indian media so :-). Now if you had two sons, one always committing mischief, and the other always obedient, wouldn't you always suspect the first one when something went wrong (even if in this case it was the other one that did it)? It's natural. At least in this case the Indian system did not allow the real perpetrators (though nothing is proven beyond doubt yet) to escape. Whereas the likes of Dawood Ibrahim and Maulana Masood Azhar are still scot free in Pakistan, because Pakistan apparently has no evidence against them.

"i) a Pak-type jehadi would allow himself to be captured alive" - what to do PM sa'ab, they didn't train him well enough. At least Pakistan should punish the masterminds for this serious lapse :) - maybe a month's house arrest and two hard lashes on the back will do?

"ii) Indian authorities would have failed to be one up on the attackers had they, as reports suggest, been informed in advance of the attacks AND that the perpetrators would be arriving by sea" - what do do, if only Indian authorities were more vigilant and took these inputs more seriously than they did... alas, you give them more credit than they deserve :)

", if India is so damn cocksure of the evidence it has against Pakistan, why doesn't it just share it with the International community, by which I do not mean the US/Israel, which has too much to gain from Pakistan being inculpated." - what to do now, I can only quote this:

Not much explanation is needed for those who are willing to understand;
No amount of explanation is sufficient for those who are not willing to understand.

Re: # 220

Even your own GeoTV has proved that Kasab is from Pakistan. What more do you want? India is definitely sharing the information with the world community. Are you in some kind of denial mode?

Yasser,

The Indians have pointed a finger at Pakistan following every single act of terrorism/militancy in India. No one is saying that Pakistan has always been innocent of the charges (and, for the sake of balance, only a fool would deny the strong possibility of a RAW hand in many similar attacks, especially in past decades).

Anyone remember a train named SamjhoTa? If the Indians (media mostly) could so assuredly and rapidly blame Pakistan for an attack on a train carrying a majority of Pakistani travellers, it's a good indication of the level of knee-jerk involved in their reactions.

However, it beggars belief that:

i) a Pak-type jehadi would allow himself to be captured alive,

ii) Indian authorities would have failed to be one up on the attackers had they, as reports suggest, been informed in advance of the attacks AND that the perpetrators would be arriving by sea,

iii) The killing of the city's anti-Terrorism chief - who was about to nail the real culprits of SamjhoTa(?) and/or another attack - was a mere coincidence.

Now, if India is so damn cocksure of the evidence it has against Pakistan, why doesn't it just share it with the International community, by which I do not mean the US/Israel, which has too much to gain from Pakistan being inculpated.

Let's not be hasty. Just because Pakistan has a big ass religious extremism/ terrorism problem, it doesn't absolve any other nation from having to provide reasonable evidence before making irresponsible accusations or unreasonable demands -- especially when that nation has a big ass vested interest in doing just so!

#216 Masadi,

Kindly read #214 again.

This is the only option available to Pakistan at this point in time. Unless we decisively move against the terror infrastructure that has manifested itself in our unfortunate country, we are threatened to be completely consumed by it. It is in the best interests (or should I say, for the sake of its very existence and suvival) of the country that we get rid of the cancer once and for all.

Living in a state of hollow denials, blaming US elite and Indians for all our problems, not recognising that solutions have to come from within and that if they do not come from within, they will be imposed upon us. Not admitting that our Nuclear deterrent is aged and might not be effective, that our airforce , composed of better men and ageing machines might not last more than a few hours in face of enemy attack, continuing to believe that this time we might beat India unlike in 1948, 1965 or in 1971.

All of the above characterise a brainwashed mindset... A mindset that needs to be abandoned.

re: #217

Feel free to write up any rules that you like. Maybe a psychological exam (of both the terrorists and Indian interrogators) should be on that list.

Why should Pakistan accept the Ajmal's statement, when even Indian courts don't accept testimony of prisoners in custody? Interpol today complained of the same lack of evidence (or even information) from Indian authorities.

It's not really up to you (since you claim to be spokesperson of Indian Government), to be judge, jury and executioner in your own cause. Don't be afraid of an international investigation, if you have no skeletons to hide.

Re: # 215
Your Excellency,
Indian Government has seen your orders. Accordingly Government of India intends to give following instructions to all departments and foreign missions to ensure compliance with your desire for concrete proof
1. Henceforth only an exit stamp from Pakistani Border Post will be treated as proof of origin for a terrorist.
2. It will also be necessary to produce a birth certificate of said terrorist, in triplicate, duly attested by a Pakistani official, no less than a first class gazetted officer.
3. Last, but not the least, it will be necessary to produce 4 male muslim witnesses to the act of terrorism. Pakistani army will maintain a list of persons who are approved to be witnesses to such acts.

Your excellency, please write your approval to these instructions ASAP so that compliance can be ensured.

Yours faithfully

#208 okhla, we should start by eliminating your kind of genocide provokers that share the mentality of GWB and other Hitler wannabes, from our midst. You have voluntarily by selling your ignorant soul to the White man expunged yourself from our midst which is a welcome sign, if only the others who want to leave to live the rest of their lives as peons were allowed to do so our problems would end....

Have a nice day and get a brain,

TNI Masadi

Manto,
Your letter is really moving, but Pakistan has already fought terror very effectively... and does not need lectures from countries that haven't even done half. Pakistan has lost more soldiers fighting terrorists than all the ISAF put together.

However, Pakistan cannot cooperate (and rightly so) with thinly veiled attempts by India to "manufacture" a link between Mumbai bombings and ISI/Jamaat/Pakistanis etc.

Even after 21 days, India has not shared evidence with Pakistan... nor has India accepted Pakistani offer of Joint Investigation. There are too many questions that need to be answered before any effective action can be taken.

We don't know under what circumstances Kasab (if that's is indeed his real name) gave his statement? Did he write it, or was it dictated to him by his captors?

How did a large amount of ammunition enter the hotel? Who helped them?

We need telephone records to establish the fact that calls were made to Zaki ur Rehman Alvi by the terrorists during the operation, and not afterwards by the Police to manufacture a link.

We also need to know whom Kasab was calling before D-day... to determine who was involved in this planning.

There are also questions about Kasab's alleged kidnapping in Nepal 2 years ago... there are reports that 200 other Pakistanis have been kidnapped by RAW since then. This must be investigated.

What connection do the 40 people (many of them dead or out of Pakistan) have with the Mumbai blasts? Did Kasab call each of them to pay his regards?

This terror attack is not a litmus test for Pakistan alone. It is also a litmus test for India's sincerity in fighting terror. It is time Pakistan snarled back at India in fury and tell her to get serious about fighting terror, instead of making childish demands (like hand over your citizens to us).

The way forward..
"We have to purge the tribal areas and all the Pakistan of non state actors,"

How do we carry out this purge...BY RUTHLESS ELIMINATION (Like some Sikh Police Chief carried out in Indian Punjab).

For a start let us eliminate 500 non state actors (proven or strongly suspected). These can include Dawa, Toiba, Harkat, Jaish, whoever, retired military, ex ISI, any body providing arms/training/support to non state actors.

This is what the rest of the world means by "doing enough against terrorism" and this is what we will have to do sooner or later.

Once this exercise is taken up in due sincerity, it can be controlled and allowed to grow to the required momentum (again like the indians did successfully in the case of Punjaab militancy). Sure some innocents will suffer. But sure as hell, the bulk of non-state actors and their support system will disintegrate.

The more we delay this, the more dangerous the situation will become for us. The sooner we accomplish this, we shall become accepted as mature members of the world community, relations with India will improve and economic benefits shall flow to the region.Future of Afghanistan will also then improve. The alternative of pakistan receding into a mullah-controlled Afghan-like situation will diminish.

Akcheema, that's very impressive. Seriously.

Re: # 210
"All three must be destroyed to destroy Al-Qaeda!"

Show restraint Luddan mian. You're actually asking for the al-CIAda to be dismantled!

They'll be very unhappy in Langley considering how much the Moss/RAW love each other when it comes to Kashmir and Islam.

Convey my regards to bhabi and the kids.

bubba#208:

I know both Pakistanis and Indians. Believe you me that Pakistanis are much nicer as people than Indians although India is a nicer concept. That is until you bring Islam into the picture when all bets are off.

Re: # 202

Nonsense.

Al Qaeda = ISI + Ulemas + Paki Elites.

All three have to be destroyed by the world in a united way.

All these three control Pakistan and its media and are into massive propaganda within Pakistan to fool the common abdul into believing their story.

All three are massively into drug peddling world wide.

All three are into arms peddling and smuggling.

All three must be destroyed to destroy Al-Qaeda!

Re: # 148; hamidm sahib

not eating certain things in front of your family is not hypocrisy but simply being polite to others ... it is often not if WE OURSELVES can face the truth but if the OTHERS can too! ... I'd consider myself to be similar in that respect ... unlike mrs hamidm, mrs cheema is from a nonmuslim background ... yet she hasn't eaten pork ever since I have known her! simply out of respect for my family ... even though she knows it matters nought to me

these issues are simply best described as "teething troubles" when one ventures out ... they get sorted out with time (banda deedth hona chahi da!)