Riaz Haq March 22, 2009
#94 Posted by nkg on March 31, 2009 5:29:02 am
Re: # 90
Riaz...
"There are 450m (three times the entire population of Pakistan) poor, hungry and homeless and...."
Wild dream.....
Riaz...
"There are 450m (three times the entire population of Pakistan) poor, hungry and homeless and...."
Wild dream.....
#93 Posted by RiazHaq on March 30, 2009 9:36:08 am
Re: # 86
nkg: "the upper reaparian countries generaly takes it all...for strange reason, India tries its best to adjust with neighbours in this regard...."
Have you heard about a country called Egypt? Do you know anything about which way the Nile flows? Is Egypt upper riparian or lower riparian?
Do you honestly believe that whatever India does is out of goodness of its heart...and what Pakistan does is because of Indian or international pressure? If you do, then I must say you are suffering from total delusion.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
nkg: "the upper reaparian countries generaly takes it all...for strange reason, India tries its best to adjust with neighbours in this regard...."
Have you heard about a country called Egypt? Do you know anything about which way the Nile flows? Is Egypt upper riparian or lower riparian?
Do you honestly believe that whatever India does is out of goodness of its heart...and what Pakistan does is because of Indian or international pressure? If you do, then I must say you are suffering from total delusion.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#92 Posted by masadi on March 30, 2009 9:32:58 am
RiazHaq writes "There are 450m (three times the entire population of Pakistan) poor, hungry and homeless and/or slumdwelling people in India who are picking through garbage and coming up empty handed."
It says that India has 7 times the number of people than Pakistan does moron, 1.147 B versus 170m, and it also says that the fanfare about the "IT miracle" has not affected the vast majority of the population just as the 'military dictatorship miracle' you are touting which never happened...
TNITC masadi
It says that India has 7 times the number of people than Pakistan does moron, 1.147 B versus 170m, and it also says that the fanfare about the "IT miracle" has not affected the vast majority of the population just as the 'military dictatorship miracle' you are touting which never happened...
TNITC masadi
#91 Posted by masadi on March 30, 2009 9:29:46 am
RiazHaq writes "If you are serious about understanding the issues of development in South Asia, please pay no attention to one perpetually disgruntled heckler on this forum..."
Of course when stumped all morons come with similar excuses. Tell us that Pakistan is developed and not underdeveloped, at the near bottom of the list on almost all human development indicators. You talk about GDP doubling while ignoring the componets based on which that pittling figure to start with doubled. It was consumption based, linked to a growing population as well the dirty US money and the billions squandered that flowed in post 9/11 from expats. Those who were living in Pakistan unlike you in 2007 saw daily blackouts, extreme inflation and absolutely no sign of the development as related to the common man/woman. We also saw big billboards advertising luxury items, a lot of useless construction and contracts given to foreigners and luxury cars worth more than a million dollars a piece to protect the thugs, as well as growing poverty where over half the population is termed food insecure.
Those are more than enough facts that disprove your BS.
TNITC masadi
Of course when stumped all morons come with similar excuses. Tell us that Pakistan is developed and not underdeveloped, at the near bottom of the list on almost all human development indicators. You talk about GDP doubling while ignoring the componets based on which that pittling figure to start with doubled. It was consumption based, linked to a growing population as well the dirty US money and the billions squandered that flowed in post 9/11 from expats. Those who were living in Pakistan unlike you in 2007 saw daily blackouts, extreme inflation and absolutely no sign of the development as related to the common man/woman. We also saw big billboards advertising luxury items, a lot of useless construction and contracts given to foreigners and luxury cars worth more than a million dollars a piece to protect the thugs, as well as growing poverty where over half the population is termed food insecure.
Those are more than enough facts that disprove your BS.
TNITC masadi
#90 Posted by RiazHaq on March 30, 2009 8:27:57 am
Re: # 87
nkg: "take away money, Pakistan received as foreign assistance (US and Saudi) for last 10 years, you will get real picture about how productive Pakis are...."
There are 450m (three times the entire population of Pakistan) poor, hungry and homeless and/or slumdwelling people in India who are picking through garbage and coming up empty handed. What does that say about Indian productivity with the well documented, widespread and abject poverty in India?
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
nkg: "take away money, Pakistan received as foreign assistance (US and Saudi) for last 10 years, you will get real picture about how productive Pakis are...."
There are 450m (three times the entire population of Pakistan) poor, hungry and homeless and/or slumdwelling people in India who are picking through garbage and coming up empty handed. What does that say about Indian productivity with the well documented, widespread and abject poverty in India?
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#89 Posted by fuzair on March 30, 2009 7:46:01 am
VRV,
Thank you; allow me to return the compliment. I don't know much about the Baghlihar Dam issue so can't say about whether or not it is purely power generation or a dual purpose dam.
JayP,
Unfortunately you are correct; Pakistan has some technically very competent people but its usually the idiots who make decisions. I have no doubt that GoP (politicians or more likely ignorant bureaucratic Burra Sahibs) will make a hash of things.
Thank you; allow me to return the compliment. I don't know much about the Baghlihar Dam issue so can't say about whether or not it is purely power generation or a dual purpose dam.
JayP,
Unfortunately you are correct; Pakistan has some technically very competent people but its usually the idiots who make decisions. I have no doubt that GoP (politicians or more likely ignorant bureaucratic Burra Sahibs) will make a hash of things.
#88 Posted by tahmed32 on March 30, 2009 6:06:42 am
#87 indian lowlife are unhappy because the world does not join them in the cesspool and squawk against pakistan. poor jay thakeray is having seizures. arjun is hyperventilating. nkg is in the intensive care ward.
the situation is critical.
the situation is critical.
#87 Posted by nkg on March 30, 2009 6:00:06 am
Re: # 85
RaizHaq...
In human sense, it is shmaeful for a country to survive on it's nuicense creating ability....Pakistan has created Islamic/terrorist infrastructure and now milking money using it....take away money, Pakistan received as foreign assistance (US and Saudi) for last 10 years, you will get real picture about how productive Pakis are....
RaizHaq...
In human sense, it is shmaeful for a country to survive on it's nuicense creating ability....Pakistan has created Islamic/terrorist infrastructure and now milking money using it....take away money, Pakistan received as foreign assistance (US and Saudi) for last 10 years, you will get real picture about how productive Pakis are....
#86 Posted by nkg on March 30, 2009 5:56:34 am
Re: # 43
fuz...
these water treaties are not somthing, every country abides by...the upper reaparian countries generaly takes it all...for strange reason, India tries its best to adjust with neighbours in this regard....
fuz...
these water treaties are not somthing, every country abides by...the upper reaparian countries generaly takes it all...for strange reason, India tries its best to adjust with neighbours in this regard....
#85 Posted by RiazHaq on March 29, 2009 10:04:28 pm
If you are serious about understanding the issues of development in South Asia, please pay no attention to one perpetually disgruntled heckler on this forum who sees nothing but doom and gloom for his own people. I encourage everyone to check the HDR report as well as other international data on hunger (world hunger index), poverty (real per capita income data by ADB), infrastructure (roads, telecom, Internet access, water, power etc) and focus specifically on South Asia region...Bangladesh, India and Pakistan. By comparing various reports (rather than just HDR) and looking at all of the relevant data (have plenty of references on my blog) you can reach better informed conclusions.
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#84 Posted by masadi on March 29, 2009 8:59:44 pm
Try this and click on Pakistan
http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/
http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/
#83 Posted by masadi on March 29, 2009 8:58:19 pm
Here, check RiazHaq's claims about Pakistan the "developed"
From 2006 after Musharraf was well on his high horse of killing the people on behalf of the Americans:
http://hdrstats.undp.org/2008/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs _PAK.html
From 2006 after Musharraf was well on his high horse of killing the people on behalf of the Americans:
http://hdrstats.undp.org/2008/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs _PAK.html
#82 Posted by masadi on March 29, 2009 8:29:46 pm
RiazHaq writes "Pakistan has done fairly well during this decade..."
That is why I wrote earlier that this person is a spineless sellout. Pakistan ranks well near the bottom of every indicator of social well being, and just because a few billion in blood money flowed in during the Musharraf era from the Americans that was then recycled back to the ultra rich and the Americans for their F-16s, while sustaining mere survivability on massive overprinting of money resulting in massive inflation and the bottom falling out, not to mention that the poor got totally slaughtered in the process and the country's major cities were going through half a day of electric blackouts/load shedding says a lot for the "reality" of the Musharraf era. The moron was gambling with the lives of the vast majority of Pakistanis while enriching the very few less than 1% of the Pakistani population and RiazHaq says that was 'development'. That is precisely why Pakistan is today being termed a failed state.... great going Einstein, they use your country as a massive short term casino and you think that is "development"- sellouts operate in similar fashion. You're a supporter of dictators and thugs...
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
That is why I wrote earlier that this person is a spineless sellout. Pakistan ranks well near the bottom of every indicator of social well being, and just because a few billion in blood money flowed in during the Musharraf era from the Americans that was then recycled back to the ultra rich and the Americans for their F-16s, while sustaining mere survivability on massive overprinting of money resulting in massive inflation and the bottom falling out, not to mention that the poor got totally slaughtered in the process and the country's major cities were going through half a day of electric blackouts/load shedding says a lot for the "reality" of the Musharraf era. The moron was gambling with the lives of the vast majority of Pakistanis while enriching the very few less than 1% of the Pakistani population and RiazHaq says that was 'development'. That is precisely why Pakistan is today being termed a failed state.... great going Einstein, they use your country as a massive short term casino and you think that is "development"- sellouts operate in similar fashion. You're a supporter of dictators and thugs...
TNITC masadi
TNITC masadi
#81 Posted by RiazHaq on March 29, 2009 8:00:49 pm
Re: # 77
Cheema Sahib, "the 'quote' you reacted to was taken from this article (by Riaz Haq) which I disagreed with myself"
I think your assessment about Pakistan's lack of development is not entirely accurate. In spite of tremendous challenges and political instability, Pakistan has done fairly well during this decade ( particularly during Musharraf years) in several sectors, including telecom, roads/bridges infrastructure, commercial and residential construction, auto manufacturing, financial services, defense production and export, number of college graduates/growth in higher education, attracting foreign direct investment and outsourcing of services, etc. Pakistan's GDP has doubled from 2003-8, and so has the tax base.
Ample water availability is essential for residential and commercial development as well as agriculture which still accounts for 20% of Pakistan's GDP.
If you are seriously interested in learning more, please take a look at my blog called South Asia Investor Review at http://southasiainvestor.blogspot.com/
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
Cheema Sahib, "the 'quote' you reacted to was taken from this article (by Riaz Haq) which I disagreed with myself"
I think your assessment about Pakistan's lack of development is not entirely accurate. In spite of tremendous challenges and political instability, Pakistan has done fairly well during this decade ( particularly during Musharraf years) in several sectors, including telecom, roads/bridges infrastructure, commercial and residential construction, auto manufacturing, financial services, defense production and export, number of college graduates/growth in higher education, attracting foreign direct investment and outsourcing of services, etc. Pakistan's GDP has doubled from 2003-8, and so has the tax base.
Ample water availability is essential for residential and commercial development as well as agriculture which still accounts for 20% of Pakistan's GDP.
If you are seriously interested in learning more, please take a look at my blog called South Asia Investor Review at http://southasiainvestor.blogspot.com/
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide
#80 Posted by tahmed32 on March 29, 2009 6:47:18 pm
Mr. Madani: overpopulationing is very bad thing.
#79 Posted by tahmed32 on March 29, 2009 6:46:42 pm
masadi: I understand hot air is a substitute for water. And as such, Pakistan need not fear anything as long as you are there to provide the hot air (for which you have a proven capacity equal to 100 Tarbela dam-size reservoirs).
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