It's Yet Another Pakistani Nuclear Anniversary Today

@@@@@@@@Just curious, if all the knowledge there is to have, is contained in Quran, why would one need to go to China to get any?@@@@@@@@@

Very wise question to moslems - you are a fertile mind - and I appreciate your intellect....but I am sure these moslems will come with deceptive question answer to misguide you and others....because they are blind folded and infected with a virus called Islam which is flowing into thier green blood - exclusive patent of Allah.......

Re: # 473
Just curious, if all the knowledge there is to have, is contained in Quran, why would one need to go to China to get any?

@@@@@@@@@Also, as per tahmed (mullah32), the great prophet had said "Go to China, if you have to, for knowledge". So Pakis go to China for knowledge about bomb-delivery systems like missiles, as well as the nuclear bomb.@@@@@@@@@@

Correct....

But this prophet of doom also said the following about India, hence we got gauris, ghaznavis, akbers, aurngzeb, baburs and what not......

Here are his glorious words about conquering India....


“… in the hadith collections the prophet Muhammad himself is credited with the aspiration of conquering India. Participants in the holy war against al-Hind [the Hindus] are promised to be saved from hell-fire… Thus also an eschatological work which is called the Kitab al-Fitan (’Book of Trials’) credits Muhammad with saying that God will forgive the sins of the members of the Muslim army which will attack al-Hind, and give them victory.�

In one of the Hadiths (Muslim scripture) the Prophet Muhammad isquoted as saying “Two groups of my Ummah Allah has protected from the hellfire: a group that will conquer India and a group thatwill be with Isa ibnu Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary).� The first attempted invasion of India by Muslims occurred in 636 CE — underCaliph Umar, within four years of Muhammad’s death. The first 16 invasion attempts utterly failed.

Source = Al-Hind by Andre Wink


Islam is based on subterfuge and deception against their enemies - kafers

#471 meenug

I have to say that you don't have a clue, not being Muslim yourself. While all these scientists all over the world are searching for answers in their laboratories and studies like fools, Muslims know that ALL the knowledge that there possibly could be is encoded in the Koran. So while the rest of the world chase their tails, the Muslims are stuying the "book" and gaining an advantage over everyone else in the afterlife. If you don't believe ma, ask Masadi.

Also, as per tahmed (mullah32), the great prophet had said "Go to China, if you have to, for knowledge". So Pakis go to China for knowledge about bomb-delivery systems like missiles, as well as the nuclear bomb.

Pakis have all the bases covered.

Re: # 471

Where is Riaz Bhai.... Kaafi dinon se Dikhe Nahi..... I am eagerly waiting for his Pakistani Green take on these no. produced by "meenug".

okey here we go on ALL FIELDS: Top 20 Countries in ALL FIELDS, 1998-August 31, 2008:


Ranked by Papers
Rank Field Papers Citations Citations
Per Paper
1 USA 2,959,661 42,269,694 14.28
2 JAPAN 796,807 7,201,664 9.04
3 GERMANY 766,146 8,787,460 11.47
4 ENGLAND 678,686 8,768,475 12.92
5 PEOPLES R CHINA 573,486 2,646,085 4.61
6 FRANCE 548,279 5,933,187 10.82
7 CANADA 414,248 4,837,825 11.68
8 ITALY 394,428 4,044,512 10.25
9 SPAIN 292,146 2,602,330 8.91
10 RUSSIA 276,801 1,135,496 4.10
11 AUSTRALIA 267,134 2,784,738 10.42
12 INDIA 237,364 1,088,425 4.59
13 NETHERLANDS 231,682 3,148,005 13.59
14 SOUTH KOREA 218,077 1,256,724 5.76
15 SWEDEN 174,418 2,257,641 12.94
16 SWITZERLAND 168,527 2,502,210 14.85
17 BRAZIL 157,860 880,821 5.58
18 TAIWAN 144,807 828,751 5.72
19 POLAND 131,646 766,033 5.82
20 BELGIUM 125,520 1,461,478 11.64
SOURCE: Essential Science Indicators from Thomson Reuters.

Who u r trying to fool my friend with such disinformation ?

Next time take yr lies somewhere else and dump them......


http://sciencewatch.com/dr/cou/2008/08decALL/

@riazhaq:

@@@@@@@@1. According to Science Watch website that tracks science publications, citations of Pakistani research papers/publications are sharply up in multiple fields, ranging from engineering to computer science to material sciences and plant biology. @@@@@@@@

Source: http://sciencewatch.com/dr/rs/08sep-rs/

Pure methane discharge......

According to the same source, here we go for top twenty countries on computer science first where Pakistan is nowhere.....


Rank Country Papers Citations Citations
Per
Paper
1 SWEDEN 3,207 21,675 6.76
2 USA 70,638 374,292 5.30
3 ISRAEL 4,364 20,500 4.70
4 DENMARK 2,096 9,510 4.54
5 SWITZERLAND 4,006 17,898 4.47
6 ENGLAND 15,919 62,960 3.96
7 SCOTLAND 2,182 8,037 3.68
8 CANADA 11,584 41,135 3.55
9 AUSTRALIA 6,654 22,763 3.42
10 NORWAY 1,542 5,181 3.36
11 BELGIUM 3,344 11,080 3.31
12 NETHERLANDS 5,867 19,368 3.30
13 FRANCE 14,731 47,469 3.22
14 GERMANY 18,982 60,956 3.21
15 ITALY 11,531 34,085 2.96
16 SINGAPORE 3,788 10,649 2.81
17 AUSTRIA 2,774 7,625 2.75
18 FINLAND 2,583 6,783 2.63
19 JAPAN 14,714 37,958 2.58
20 INDIA 3,979 9,838 2.47


Your lies are too many to be nailed....Any sane person with common sense would reject your claim of Pakistan, a muslim country having achieved such a success - its not possible against the back drop of quran and hadeeth type teaching n preaching which takes every moslem far away from the realm of science - pro pervez hoodhboy is a wonderful person, read his books about science, islam and rationality.....and get a life...

I have lost all respect for Dr. Hoodbhoy. He is at his best when it comes to criticizing whatever we have achieved or might achieve with limited resources at our disposal.

Some comments in response to this article;

-He keeps on harping the mantra of elating the nation's 'scientific' prowess to the standards of the west, yet he fails to recognize the same when it comes to achievements in the nuclear arena.

-He *fails* to mention the peaceful uses of this technology (in agriculture and medicine, for instance) that Pakistan has successfully integrated into its system, and is heavily investing (in research) in such technologies to extend its benefits to its people.

People like Dr. Hoodbhoy live in an idealistic world of their own, and leave no stone unturned to dampen the nation's spirits with their own insecurities, which have continued to haunt them for the most part of their lives, or worse, might haunt them for the rest of their lives.

I can’t understand it why peoples speak out about Pakistan nuclear capability only on some specific period of time. I have watched some TV programs as well about it on which they are trying to tell that Pakistan has not anything form nuclear capabilities. Why they talk about it only when western media launch campaign against it. Why only on that time??? Are they up to something? I think so. It makes sense.
Nuclear capability is not responsible for the current situation of Pakistan but it is our politicians who failed to deliver. They looted millions of rupees from Pakistan which could be use for the welfare of peoples. and peoples who are working for foreign agendas are responsible for the instability of Pakistan. Who have been paid for arising conflicts in Pakistan, especially when there are problems in Pakistan.
As mentioned in article its not bomb it is peoples who protect Pakistan, yes it is true but it is also true sir it is not bomb its peoples (politicians, fake mullas, and paid intellectuals) who are responsible for instability of Pakistan. Its peoples like Musharaf who follows the instructions of America, its Zardari; it was Benazir who were bringing American agenda here. It is peoples like Altaf Hussain, Fazul Rehman and yes also I said before Paid Intellectuals who only speaks on time of crisis and do nothing but just throwing words.

#340 by RiazHaq

Here's the connection between military and poverty (guns vs bread) as pointed out in the UNICEF report:

Unicef was also critical of high military budgets in the region at the cost of social protection. India is modernizing its armed forces and projecting its power more widely than in the past.

“A number of countries in south Asia decide to invest in the military and not to increase investment in their people.� said Daniel Toole, Unicef’s regional director “Budgetary allocations can be more than 10 per cent in the military, while education is only 2 per cent.�

Moron, if there is one country in South Asia that spends close to the upper limit the Unicef guy mentioned, it is Pakistan. You guys spend almost 5% of your GDP, additionally stealing from US aid money to buy weaponry and God alone knows how much narco-money you spend on buying arms. India spends about 2.5% of its GDP on the military.

Being a numbers guy producing discredited stats all the time, couldn't you find the numbers to show which military spends more?

thanks romair
nice to hear from you.
dont be such a stranger.

shankar #: "I've always scratched my head wondering why there is so much antipathy against Pakistan, in Afghanistan. After all, during the Soviet occupation, nobody helped the poor, displaced Afghans more than Pakistan."

....there is antipathy against pakistan, for the same reason there is antipathy against usa in afghanistan.......right now, the most hated country amongst afghans is the usa......the second most disliked is pakistan.......why....because no one likes a country that tries to control it......

......the usa is occupying afghanistan (not to be confused by the propoganda on us tv shows)......hence it is hated......prior to that, pakistan tried to occupy afghanistan, via taliban.....hence it is disliked......

....pakistan has been able to clear a huge area around swat in a month, from the taliban.......nato has been unable to do so, in afghanistan, over 7 years, despite having orders of magnitude more resources.......why......

because people of swat are on the side of the pakistan military and govt.......while people of afghanistan are not on the side of the usa......

no one likes being occupied......

(in addition, the world used afghanistan (and pakistan) to break up the soviet empire........and it is, now, using afghanistan to take on al-qaeda etc.).......

It is a fact that Pakistan is a nuclear state but it is also true that our governments could not provide basic needs of survival to their people. instead of providing strong foundation to people our government make them fool. Hoodbhpy's article is eye opener for all of us.

tahmed writes "What is also interesting is that the mullah Bacha Saqa was supported by the British in overthrowing the secularist Amanullah who had made Afghanistan too independent of British rule."

Nothing interesting or surprising in it, the US supported the mujahideen against the secular leftist government in Afghanistan, Israel/US supported and built up Hamas as a bullwark against the secular PLO, and the US in particular had been doing that all through the cold war opportunistically using religion and right wing lunatics (like you) to destabilize countries whose governments were pro-people and left. Currently they are supporting the Taliban against the civilian government of Pakistan ensuring that it fails.

What you don't know is that the US supported and facilitated Khomeni's "revolution" and then helped him get rid of the leftists that made overthrowing the shah possible, they handed over ownership of the 'revolution' to the mullahs....

TNITC masadi

What tahmed wont tell you is the US role in manufacturing the Taliban theocracy in Afghanistan, and their current attempts to do the same in Pakistan in order to create an enemy to further its farcical GWOT.

TNITC masadi

tahmedji,

#460

Very informative.
Afghans, for the longest time was very secular & tolerant--& yet devoutly muslim. Its sad to see what has happened to that country.

I've always scratched my head wondering why there is so much antipathy against Pakistan, in Afghanistan. After all, during the Soviet occupation, nobody helped the poor, displaced Afghans more than Pakistan.

Many of them are still in Pakistan & have now their descendants are into the third generation, who have never seen Afghanistan. There ought to be some gratitude for that. Friendship is a 2 way street.

Personally, I think the Soviets, Americans & Zia played the biggest role in Afghan anger.