sufia ajaz June 29, 2009
#23 Posted by bubbly on July 5, 2009 7:39:19 pm
Re: # 22
hi! nandan
i've already replied to ur queries. surprisingly, i don't find it published. sigh.
hi! nandan
i've already replied to ur queries. surprisingly, i don't find it published. sigh.
#22 Posted by NandanVaidya on July 3, 2009 11:30:46 pm
Dear Sufia, I am awaiting your response to points I raised.
#21 Posted by nkg on July 2, 2009 11:35:30 pm
Re: # 16
bsm...
"And don't worry about numb-heads, who have commented below. These are the people, who will give you justifications for all atrocities committed in India to Israel, Pakistan to Saudi Arabia, and of course, UK to US - the savage land...."
Does the public administration adpot enough mechanism to minimize it? If it not effective, UN bodeis can intervene. Iraq, specialy, Iraqis were victims. But, that single incidence does not make US a bad country/society.
I am sure, when you see Palestinians are gunned down by IDF, your and other moslem's blood boils down. Even that issue creates rage after Friday afternoon prayers (what sort of prayer I don't know, which do not look for solution but creates anger)...But does you blood boiled, when Pundits in Kashmir were uprooted? Definitely "NO"...Force occupatoon of Tibet by Chinkus? "NO"...
This is another Mumabi Urdoo movie representing a cliche, which people from cow belt and Pakistan may take it seriously; but not the educated class in India or elsewhere....
bsm...
"And don't worry about numb-heads, who have commented below. These are the people, who will give you justifications for all atrocities committed in India to Israel, Pakistan to Saudi Arabia, and of course, UK to US - the savage land...."
Does the public administration adpot enough mechanism to minimize it? If it not effective, UN bodeis can intervene. Iraq, specialy, Iraqis were victims. But, that single incidence does not make US a bad country/society.
I am sure, when you see Palestinians are gunned down by IDF, your and other moslem's blood boils down. Even that issue creates rage after Friday afternoon prayers (what sort of prayer I don't know, which do not look for solution but creates anger)...But does you blood boiled, when Pundits in Kashmir were uprooted? Definitely "NO"...Force occupatoon of Tibet by Chinkus? "NO"...
This is another Mumabi Urdoo movie representing a cliche, which people from cow belt and Pakistan may take it seriously; but not the educated class in India or elsewhere....
#20 Posted by nkg on July 2, 2009 11:26:44 pm
Re: # 16
bsm...
"today moslems, tomorrow..."
Why moslems are chosen today accross the globe? I mean Thailand, UK, Spain, France, India, USA?
Is it single incidence of 9/11 alone?
How, in most cases, "few misguided youths" gets associated with some religious seminaries and gets training before committing crime?
Lot of answers and questions as well...But do you have the patience to listen to that....
Ragarding attacking Iraq by US-UK force; these two countries are permanent member of UNSC and have some authority to take miliraty action against rogue states ( though they have ignored the VETO from majority of the mamebrs. That is different issue)...Comparing them with central asian looters is typical moslem logic, which nobody will buy....
bsm...
"today moslems, tomorrow..."
Why moslems are chosen today accross the globe? I mean Thailand, UK, Spain, France, India, USA?
Is it single incidence of 9/11 alone?
How, in most cases, "few misguided youths" gets associated with some religious seminaries and gets training before committing crime?
Lot of answers and questions as well...But do you have the patience to listen to that....
Ragarding attacking Iraq by US-UK force; these two countries are permanent member of UNSC and have some authority to take miliraty action against rogue states ( though they have ignored the VETO from majority of the mamebrs. That is different issue)...Comparing them with central asian looters is typical moslem logic, which nobody will buy....
#18 Posted by bittersweetmojo on July 2, 2009 5:19:07 pm
Cobra,
Come up with arguments. I suggest that you don't expose your not-so-cute face to the the world anymore by being an idiot like you are.
If you have no answers, just shut up or walk off the party, you psycho!
-E
Come up with arguments. I suggest that you don't expose your not-so-cute face to the the world anymore by being an idiot like you are.
If you have no answers, just shut up or walk off the party, you psycho!
-E
#17 Posted by Cobra on July 2, 2009 1:41:07 pm
"Lets just stick to the movie review shall we!
No intention of persuading anyone, just want to share my perspective."
okay, so what was this?
"Today it is Muslims, tomorrow you, day after them, and then… Think. Put a stop to this simmering fire. Stop the TORTURE. Stop it. We don’t need a superpower to dictate our lives to us. If they label others’ terrorists, so what are they when they have Gitmos with no questions asked?"
That doesn't sound like a movie review to me! Unless of course you were doing regular whining for the benefit of the likes of bittersweetmojo!
No intention of persuading anyone, just want to share my perspective."
okay, so what was this?
"Today it is Muslims, tomorrow you, day after them, and then… Think. Put a stop to this simmering fire. Stop the TORTURE. Stop it. We don’t need a superpower to dictate our lives to us. If they label others’ terrorists, so what are they when they have Gitmos with no questions asked?"
That doesn't sound like a movie review to me! Unless of course you were doing regular whining for the benefit of the likes of bittersweetmojo!
#16 Posted by bittersweetmojo on July 2, 2009 11:03:15 am
Dear Sufia,
Thank you for this write up. In agreement with you 100%, though I would kill all "sure-shot" terrorists myself if I were in charge of a genuine anti-terrorist operation.
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And don't worry about numb-heads, who have commented below. These are the people, who will give you justifications for all atrocities committed in India to Israel, Pakistan to Saudi Arabia, and of course, UK to US - the savage land.
They will quote from history and try to legitimize it.
What nobody is willing to understand is that WHY ANYTHING HAPPENS! In this case, they've assumed: "oh1 because of a crazy lot and Islam."
Let me see if people here, who think Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq and committing genocide of Iraqis for god forsaken WMDs, are in favour of trying the American moron. Let's see how Americans can now proclaim to believe in their Constitution, which reads "...And Justice For All".
And let me see how Indians can now curse Ghaznavi for looting their land. Imperialists are to loot, no matter what religion they believe in, and what justification they come up with.
and yes...
-Rest in HELL, you bootlickers of Imperialists!
-E
Thank you for this write up. In agreement with you 100%, though I would kill all "sure-shot" terrorists myself if I were in charge of a genuine anti-terrorist operation.
-------------
And don't worry about numb-heads, who have commented below. These are the people, who will give you justifications for all atrocities committed in India to Israel, Pakistan to Saudi Arabia, and of course, UK to US - the savage land.
They will quote from history and try to legitimize it.
What nobody is willing to understand is that WHY ANYTHING HAPPENS! In this case, they've assumed: "oh1 because of a crazy lot and Islam."
Let me see if people here, who think Bush made a terrible mistake by invading Iraq and committing genocide of Iraqis for god forsaken WMDs, are in favour of trying the American moron. Let's see how Americans can now proclaim to believe in their Constitution, which reads "...And Justice For All".
And let me see how Indians can now curse Ghaznavi for looting their land. Imperialists are to loot, no matter what religion they believe in, and what justification they come up with.
and yes...
-Rest in HELL, you bootlickers of Imperialists!
-E
#15 Posted by azzerism on July 2, 2009 10:58:40 am
Lets just stick to the movie review shall we!
No intention of persuading anyone, just want to share my perspective.
No intention of persuading anyone, just want to share my perspective.
#14 Posted by NandanVaidya on July 2, 2009 12:43:35 am
Dear Sufia,
So you educated us with following insights / findings....
Your conclusion # 1: Katrina has finally demonstrated that she is a highly competent actor and not just sweet-faced-stiff-legged-damsel) I disagree with this conclusion but I respect your opinion.
Your conclusion # 2: “Today it is Muslims, tomorrow you, day after them, and then… Think” …
This scared me a lot. So in your opinion, America is preparing for drone attacks on Indian soil. Thanks for advance warning.
Your conclusion # 3: But no one even once questioned – why 9/11 happened? What led to it?”
So, in your opinion there is some legitimacy/justification for 9/11 attack. You know those reasons but world did not care to know. Can you please educate world with your understanding of what lead to 9/11 and how it is justified.
Your conclusion # 4: Bush suddenly became the hero of America. He was out to save Americans.
So, your conclusion is that Bush should not started war. He should have been more big hearted and forgiven/pardoned preceptors. Ok, basically your are suggesting that for every Muslim mis-adventure by few unemployed youths, world’s reaction should be that like Indian Congress party. Its most trusted home minister’s (Mr Patil) only reaction to every terror attack was to change dressing suites. I guess your are right bush was stupid to not know such great Gandhian approach.
One question. What is your recommendation to current Pakistani government? Should they stop war-against-muslims in north-west Pakistan? So far no Pakistani court has given any verdict against Pakistani Talibans. They have not been proven guilty of any crime. So why Pakistani army is killing them without proper legal proceedings? What is your advise here?
Your conclusion # 5: Could Bush have done the same with Jews or other communities and got away as easily as with Muslims.
What would have Busih done if an Hindu/Jew team had attached WTC? Good hypnotical scenario. For that you first need to find some mis-guided-unempployed-youths from these communities to carry an attack on Amrican soil. Compared to mis-guided muslims; mis-guided-other communities seem to be lack required valour. Why don’t you try instigating other communities to do similar things on American soil. Till then answers to hypothetical questions are also hypothetical. Usless waste of time.
So net-net I am expecting few things from you
1. Please educate world with “what lead to 9/11?
2. Present Pakistani government (elected by Pakistani people) and Bush both are doing same thing. Both killing innocent Muslims.
3. In your opinon what should have been correct reaction of Bush? Put your self in his job and advise us as how you would have acted the moment you got the new of 9/11. And what would have been outcome of your suggested actions?
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
So you educated us with following insights / findings....
Your conclusion # 1: Katrina has finally demonstrated that she is a highly competent actor and not just sweet-faced-stiff-legged-damsel) I disagree with this conclusion but I respect your opinion.
Your conclusion # 2: “Today it is Muslims, tomorrow you, day after them, and then… Think” …
This scared me a lot. So in your opinion, America is preparing for drone attacks on Indian soil. Thanks for advance warning.
Your conclusion # 3: But no one even once questioned – why 9/11 happened? What led to it?”
So, in your opinion there is some legitimacy/justification for 9/11 attack. You know those reasons but world did not care to know. Can you please educate world with your understanding of what lead to 9/11 and how it is justified.
Your conclusion # 4: Bush suddenly became the hero of America. He was out to save Americans.
So, your conclusion is that Bush should not started war. He should have been more big hearted and forgiven/pardoned preceptors. Ok, basically your are suggesting that for every Muslim mis-adventure by few unemployed youths, world’s reaction should be that like Indian Congress party. Its most trusted home minister’s (Mr Patil) only reaction to every terror attack was to change dressing suites. I guess your are right bush was stupid to not know such great Gandhian approach.
One question. What is your recommendation to current Pakistani government? Should they stop war-against-muslims in north-west Pakistan? So far no Pakistani court has given any verdict against Pakistani Talibans. They have not been proven guilty of any crime. So why Pakistani army is killing them without proper legal proceedings? What is your advise here?
Your conclusion # 5: Could Bush have done the same with Jews or other communities and got away as easily as with Muslims.
What would have Busih done if an Hindu/Jew team had attached WTC? Good hypnotical scenario. For that you first need to find some mis-guided-unempployed-youths from these communities to carry an attack on Amrican soil. Compared to mis-guided muslims; mis-guided-other communities seem to be lack required valour. Why don’t you try instigating other communities to do similar things on American soil. Till then answers to hypothetical questions are also hypothetical. Usless waste of time.
So net-net I am expecting few things from you
1. Please educate world with “what lead to 9/11?
2. Present Pakistani government (elected by Pakistani people) and Bush both are doing same thing. Both killing innocent Muslims.
3. In your opinon what should have been correct reaction of Bush? Put your self in his job and advise us as how you would have acted the moment you got the new of 9/11. And what would have been outcome of your suggested actions?
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
#13 Posted by Urstruly on July 1, 2009 1:42:29 pm
O bhai yeh amriki 9/11 ka randi rona kab band karain gay?
With genocide of 2 million Iraqis and hundereds and thousands killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan, these animals have exacted revenge several times over. They must be plainly told to shove their 911 and get lost now. World does not owe these asswholes anything anymore.
With genocide of 2 million Iraqis and hundereds and thousands killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan, these animals have exacted revenge several times over. They must be plainly told to shove their 911 and get lost now. World does not owe these asswholes anything anymore.
#11 Posted by Cobra on July 1, 2009 11:16:50 am
"Everyone saw 9/11. The ‘face’ of terrorism was presented to the world – Islamicterrorists. But no one even once questioned – why 9/11 happened?"
To whom ask this question and what is the answer? Do you know it?
This article is one sided. It reeks of the apologist mindset of the so called 'moderate' majority Muslims who don't have guts to do the critical analysis of their own faults. Why did Bush become hero? Bush, an idiot who can't scratch his head without consulting others didn't ask to be a hero. 9/11 was pushed down his throat. He was bound to take action. The situation warranted it.
Questioning the objectivity of Iraq-war is one thing but you seem to be lumping Afghanistan in it too. A bunch of brainwashed thugs killed scores of people in America for no fault of theirs. That is a grim reality of life. You reconcile with that first before preaching civility to others.
If you want to stop torture of innocent Muslims stop killing innocents across the globe. Just last year these ‘innocents’ killed hundreds of unsuspecting civilians in Bombay in cold blood. Killing the mother clutching a crying child in her dying hands. These terrorists are not innocent then are worse than animals.
No one’s asking the Muslims should be punished for fbeing a Muslim. But what’s appalling is utter lack of understanding why rest of the world views them as deheshadgars. When you come to the negotiation table bring the acceptance of what ails your society too.
To whom ask this question and what is the answer? Do you know it?
This article is one sided. It reeks of the apologist mindset of the so called 'moderate' majority Muslims who don't have guts to do the critical analysis of their own faults. Why did Bush become hero? Bush, an idiot who can't scratch his head without consulting others didn't ask to be a hero. 9/11 was pushed down his throat. He was bound to take action. The situation warranted it.
Questioning the objectivity of Iraq-war is one thing but you seem to be lumping Afghanistan in it too. A bunch of brainwashed thugs killed scores of people in America for no fault of theirs. That is a grim reality of life. You reconcile with that first before preaching civility to others.
If you want to stop torture of innocent Muslims stop killing innocents across the globe. Just last year these ‘innocents’ killed hundreds of unsuspecting civilians in Bombay in cold blood. Killing the mother clutching a crying child in her dying hands. These terrorists are not innocent then are worse than animals.
No one’s asking the Muslims should be punished for fbeing a Muslim. But what’s appalling is utter lack of understanding why rest of the world views them as deheshadgars. When you come to the negotiation table bring the acceptance of what ails your society too.
#10 Posted by sunil7090 on July 1, 2009 1:16:53 am
"With this movie, she no loner is an illusion, where many cribbed that she didn’t know to dance or emote and that she rode on Akshay Kumar hit" TOTALLY WRONG,KATRINA IS FAR SUPERIOR TO AKSHYA ,YOU MUST SEE HER FIRST FILM NAMASTEY LONDON PAIRED OPPOSITE AKSHAY WHERE SHE CARRIES FILM ON HER SHOULDERS,FILM WAS HIT BE' OF KATRINA
#9 Posted by laddu on July 1, 2009 12:36:46 am
Re: # 8
"In other words, its par for the course Bollywood idiocy with pretensions to profundity and seriousness, which are actually soft peddling apologia for terrorism.....which makes it a bizarre combination of India movie camp cretin fodder and genuinely nasty stupidity.'
Very nicely sums up the movie.
"In other words, its par for the course Bollywood idiocy with pretensions to profundity and seriousness, which are actually soft peddling apologia for terrorism.....which makes it a bizarre combination of India movie camp cretin fodder and genuinely nasty stupidity.'
Very nicely sums up the movie.
#8 Posted by PabloGanja on June 30, 2009 11:18:05 am
Oh yeah, the sequences of them at University are pure idiotic Bollywood infantilism too. It's meant to be a taut thriller and they have song breaks and scenes shot like a childrens TV show like High School Musical or Miley Cyrus, scenes that will make you cringe for the depiction of American life by the moron merchant Kabir Khan who is the Bollywood director of the movie.
(I use that phrase generically, Bollywood is an industry of moron merchants with only a handful of directors like Kashyap and Bhardwaj who rise above it)
In other words, its par for the course Bollywood idiocy with pretensions to profundity and seriousness, which are actually soft peddling apologia for terrorism.....which makes it a bizarre combination of India movie camp cretin fodder and genuinely nasty stupidity.
(I use that phrase generically, Bollywood is an industry of moron merchants with only a handful of directors like Kashyap and Bhardwaj who rise above it)
In other words, its par for the course Bollywood idiocy with pretensions to profundity and seriousness, which are actually soft peddling apologia for terrorism.....which makes it a bizarre combination of India movie camp cretin fodder and genuinely nasty stupidity.
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