Jihad – The Misperceptions

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Samina,

You are a very nice person. I hate to lose you as a friend. You are right. This was a totally useless argument which took us to death valley. No hard feelings from me. Hope all is well with you.

Godot,

Chance after chance? We`ve had an argument over absolutely nothing....and you still dont know who I am!....

re: Pak`s superiority over India
Indians (at least some of them) are complaining that they can never compete with Pakis. In what? You could have never guessed it. In Sycophancy and A$$licking uncle sam:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1021113/asp/opinion/story_1377789.asp

Sridhar

Ref Dikshit #142

[The days when a couple in love can go to certain secluded spots at Mahalaxmi & Haji Ali & make out with reckless abandon to the sounds of the Arabian Sea crashing on the coastline...are numbered.]

You keep waxing lyrical about Bombay. Bombay has NO beach worth the name. What is worse, the coast near Mahalaxmi Temple and Haji Ali is rocky. There is no sand there and on top of it, it is slimy. One would need to take not a blanket but a bedstead in order to do anything there that requires lying down. Unless of course you are a yogi who sleeps on a bed of nails.

For one who claims to have grown up in Malabar Hill, you display the most amazing ignorance about the neighborhood.

Ref pmishra2 #146

[shankar #142

You seem to live in a very protected world.]

Nope. Just in a cloud of ignorance.

Ref Rizwan #147

[Amazingly enough each one had witten the same thing. I mean four hungry persons and no difference in what the wrote, and that is for 23 years.]

Amazingly, there is nothing like a closed mind to ward off opposing viewpoints.

The fact is that copies of various versions of the Koran have been found which differ from each other. Since you can`t burn copies of the Koran, they have been sealed in urns and ceremoniously buried and have been discovered a la the Dead Sea Scrolls. Nobody can talk about it because the minute somebody says that there have been multiple versions of the Immutable Word of God as Dictated to The-Prophet-to-End-All-Prophets by God`s Own Angel, he will come under a fatwa pronouncing the death sentence.

So, keep believing that the Koran has been handed down with no changes. It is a comforting thought in a world that changes rapidly and you can find solace there that you still can beat your wife and kick the dog because God told you you can do so.

Samina,
Hey, don`t complain now. I gave you chance after chance, but you kept asking me to explain my self...yeah, so typical...just like Judge Judy...

Godot,
Well I see you Have Gotten the Last Word....typical....

Sameer, you need to add your signature in the poem. Here I take your permission to change the last 2 lines.;

Sameer kahe tutt paine kafiro,
waDD ke dakray keetae jaoge.:-)

snow #151: What Auranzeb could not achieve in 50 years of his rule. we accmplished his unfulfilled dream in 25 years. It did not happen overnight. We had our military brains working overtime to put together a strategy to defend ideological borders (read: a permanent and dominating stay in the internal and external affairs of Pakistan). The Islami Jamiaat-e-Talaba cadre were moving on to military and bureaucracy from colleges to universities and military had their cronies running the show on their behalf like Pagara, MQM, Jihadis, Sharif brothers and now Jamali. Finally Aladin came out of the lamp and grew so big with feeding from military, Saudi Arabia and coldwar politics that even his toe won`t fit back in the lamp. Now it is:
MaareN gae aur mar jaayeN gae
marney ke baad jaza paayeN gae
ab khoon ke naddyaN bahayeN gae
phir hooroN se aankh laRayeN gae
Jum`aa ke Jum`aa nahaney waley
har din baar baar nahayeN gae
din raat janimaz pe sajdey waley
ba-sujood ber-hooran bitayeN gae
angoor kee mithass tarsney waley
sharab sae ghus`l furmayeN gae
Aur Sameer:
begum se jhiRkeN khaney walo
allah se jhiRkeN khao gae
apna khana aap pakaney walo
kisi kee khana ban jao gae
apna chuhla aap jalaney walo
Uss ke chuhley mieN pae jao gae
sharab ka lut`f uthaney walo
angoor galey meiN phuNsao gae
be-haya, be-sharm, tut paiNeo
wadd ke dakrey keetae jao gae

Muslamano, aaj kee tafseer khatm!!!

Samina (150),

I wish you stopped keep asking me to ``explain`` my self. Yes, there are ``convoluted`` logics out there that are not for everybody to understand. I know, for some, if it`s not black-and-white, they can`t get it. It`s very foolish for them to try to understand something they are not meant to, just as it`s even more foolish for one to try to explain it to them.

No, I am not interested in being read in any particular way. I am sorry if said that in my last post, forgetting that you`d very quickly pick on that. One can read me any way one wants to. I don`t really care about it; except that I am not going to ``explain`` my self. I know what I mean when I write, and the smart ones--and there are quite a few of them at Chowk--know what I mean.

A wise man once said, ``Like kind attracts each other.`` As this interaction between us clearly shows, we know how attracted we are to each other!

I agree that no one, me included, likes to be insulted. So, just say goodbye and good-riddance and leave it at that.

HamidM, SameerJB, Samina et al

I couldn`t agree more. Just the other day I spoke to my mom and she said that they had a couple of friends over to have a tafseer, as in someone read the Quran and there was a Q&A session afterwards. The first thing that came to mind was this is like Bible study in universities. The second thing was Why ? you never did it before, why start now ? Turns out everyone`s doing it... its the latest fad after coffee mornings and committees.

Go figure.. Koran study a fad ! I have a nagging feeling it might get out of hand...

re: shankar

{Heheh...next time try rolling around with a broad next to the tidepool off the Mahalaxmi temple.}


...that`s probably because it is on temple premises...even the pope would be pissed if he saw tongue-dancing sessions going on by his church...i`ve got friends in bombay and they say there is no dearth of places to go do this...

Saxena,

Heheh...next time try rolling around with a broad next to the tidepool off the Mahalaxmi temple. The ambience is peaceful, serene, beautiful & romantic. Also many nooks & crannies for you to dissappear from the world.

Now I`ve heard there are hawaldars patrolling the nooks & crannies. The SOB ``Sakarams & Shindes`` wait for a poor bakhra couple to be in a very..er.. compromising situation & then pounce on the scene saying ``saala bchod tumkho sharam nahi aata hai?!``..Well, for 20 bucks they`ll look the other way, though:)..they`ve got families to feed too...

ThankGod I`m not a young guy in Bombay, these days...Price of housing in Bombay is absolutely INSANE. Even many married couple have to share a bedroom with several other family members. The sad part is, most of the couples behind the Mahalaxmi temple & Haji Ali mosque are MARRIED (er..to each other). The just want to carry out their God given ..er duties, in privacy..Now even thats gone!..OK OK, theres a 20Rs TAX imposed...Maybe thats one good way to curb population growth..