Nadeem F Paracha December 13, 2004
#29 Posted by drlokraj on December 16, 2004 10:14:04 am
very good attempt to see the history of pop music in the context of the socio-political developments.It looks like a dessertation or a thesis...congrats. By the way,what is the current status of leftist student movement in Pakistan?
#28 Posted by kaka on December 15, 2004 7:56:20 pm
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#27 Posted by Warlus on December 15, 2004 9:51:44 am
looks great NFP but do you think the artists will learn anything from this, dont think they will
They shout though but they will still believe NFP is a pest out to destroy their corporate incomes heeheehe
They shout though but they will still believe NFP is a pest out to destroy their corporate incomes heeheehe
#26 Posted by MantoLives on December 15, 2004 8:42:28 am
NFP
A good piece...
Makes sense since the left seems to be reorganizing...
Are you Lahore based ... Did I see you at the seminar on ``Tarikh Kay Mughaltay`` by ``Idara-e-Mutallah-e-Tarikh`` on Sunday? Pakistan`s Social History needs to be documented... in the end... it will be more important than our blighted political history...
A good piece...
Makes sense since the left seems to be reorganizing...
Are you Lahore based ... Did I see you at the seminar on ``Tarikh Kay Mughaltay`` by ``Idara-e-Mutallah-e-Tarikh`` on Sunday? Pakistan`s Social History needs to be documented... in the end... it will be more important than our blighted political history...
#25 Posted by ilusfa on December 15, 2004 8:42:28 am
oh i am sorry,you are a bit too much inspired by the Americans...in INdia u ppl only get BESIn and HALDi..
#24 Posted by baaghiraja on December 15, 2004 8:42:28 am
#23
~~ A classic case of chutya marxist ideologues letting their ideolgies govern musical sensibilities. ~~
Gee, kaka, kaki`s PMS really seems to be bothering you. Misgoverning your general sensibilities. Take a break. Have a Kit Kat.
~~ A classic case of chutya marxist ideologues letting their ideolgies govern musical sensibilities. ~~
Gee, kaka, kaki`s PMS really seems to be bothering you. Misgoverning your general sensibilities. Take a break. Have a Kit Kat.
#23 Posted by kaka on December 15, 2004 4:44:16 am
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#22 Posted by Nass on December 14, 2004 8:38:12 pm
Nadeem Farooq Paracha,
Was this an attempt to write Pakistani pop`s War and Peace? It was good but had it not been so harsh and subjective about mullahs and multinationals and objective about everything else. Any plans to turn this into something more?
Was this an attempt to write Pakistani pop`s War and Peace? It was good but had it not been so harsh and subjective about mullahs and multinationals and objective about everything else. Any plans to turn this into something more?
#21 Posted by catfischblues on December 14, 2004 6:45:39 pm
I`m inspired to read more into our cultural history. I did not expect the article to be insightful but it was which is great. Our musical history should be documented; and we should be encourage to analyse our musical history in a sociological perspective.
#20 Posted by nikki7777 on December 14, 2004 6:45:39 pm
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#19 Posted by jang on December 14, 2004 2:05:41 pm
runa laila was far bigger..(since she was popular in india as well.)
so, the kashmir jihad and the big bums of 98 missing .. why?
so, the kashmir jihad and the big bums of 98 missing .. why?
#18 Posted by samb on December 14, 2004 11:41:41 am
NFP, what`s with repeatedly misspelling Abrar`s name, man? it is Abrar-ul-Haq not Abrar Ahmed.
#17 Posted by ilusfa on December 14, 2004 10:38:32 am
HeY Nikki, you dont bother about others... if u want , i can pay for your family`s cosmetic bills.
#16 Posted by baaghiraja on December 14, 2004 10:38:32 am
#1 Stuka
Thank you, stuka for the comparison. But the only difference is that in Pakistan, we DID start the fire! And anyone trying to put it out is scorned at as a “traitor.” A lucrative corporate sponsorship deal usually takes care of that. ;)
#2kaurasach
Oh, come now, mate, Abrar is nowhere like a “bad copy of a struggling western group.” And neither was NFK. Far from it ... that is, of course, if you don’t consider Abrar’s clinging contract with Coca-Cola. And Chamkila …? Okay. But I can shine better.
#3nikki7777
Stop reading Khawateen Digest so much, niki. You’re turning into a fried jumbo prawn.
#4 pakfin
There were quite a few stand-offs like the one I’ve mentioned. The later did take place in 1985. Yes, I agree the student unions were not banned in 1981 but in late 1982 (and not 1983).
#5 rahul_capri
``young petty-bourgeoisie teens..`` deserve more of such condescendence than cola, rahul. Lil’ poster hugging fascists! ;)
#6 snail
Ironically this piece was extracted from the many notes I had made for a book on the subject. But as always, impatience gets its way with me. And this is not a complain. Keeps me in a constant state of prolific anarchy. Yippee!
#7 yasirz
Yes. Especially memories that make history.
#8 huma_mir
Okay, huma, I’ll check it out. I must be too stoned to notice the difference. ;)
#9 ana
Hey, ana. Yes, this was first published in, I think, the August issue of bandbaja.org. And if you did get the “political economy fused with pop culture bit” (and which I think you did), kindly explain it to twintopaz. She too seems to be spending a lot of time reading Khawateen Digest and turning into a jumbo prawn.
#10 twintopaz
(See above: #9).
(And now below)
There. Now I hope your stiff neck is a lot better. Try the same with your attitude. Loosen up. Everything is political. Even your neck ache.
#11 AhmedBilal
Hello Ahmed. Yes I did hear about Zak’s double album. But then, I’ve been hearing about it for quite a while now. Let’s hope this time it does come. And nope. Still no sign of Atish Raj’s lost master tape. Still searching, bro. I handed out a few copies back in 1995. I wish someone still holding one can read this and deliver.
#12 adityapant
Yes, I have read that book. Such studies have become vital in today’s Pakistan (or for that matter, India).
#13 spider
I chose 1966 because I believe here lay the true beginnings homespun pop. “Cococoreena” was the start.
#14 CoolHandLuke
Come on, Luke, I think recent events in this context are pretty much covered.
#15 syke
Yes, syke, this did take some running around. And for this I would like to thank bandbaja’s Omar Tariq and Safwat. Two of the finest new Pakistani music journalists (and far more sober, sensible and patient than I ever was.)
Rgds,
NfP
Thank you, stuka for the comparison. But the only difference is that in Pakistan, we DID start the fire! And anyone trying to put it out is scorned at as a “traitor.” A lucrative corporate sponsorship deal usually takes care of that. ;)
#2kaurasach
Oh, come now, mate, Abrar is nowhere like a “bad copy of a struggling western group.” And neither was NFK. Far from it ... that is, of course, if you don’t consider Abrar’s clinging contract with Coca-Cola. And Chamkila …? Okay. But I can shine better.
#3nikki7777
Stop reading Khawateen Digest so much, niki. You’re turning into a fried jumbo prawn.
#4 pakfin
There were quite a few stand-offs like the one I’ve mentioned. The later did take place in 1985. Yes, I agree the student unions were not banned in 1981 but in late 1982 (and not 1983).
#5 rahul_capri
``young petty-bourgeoisie teens..`` deserve more of such condescendence than cola, rahul. Lil’ poster hugging fascists! ;)
#6 snail
Ironically this piece was extracted from the many notes I had made for a book on the subject. But as always, impatience gets its way with me. And this is not a complain. Keeps me in a constant state of prolific anarchy. Yippee!
#7 yasirz
Yes. Especially memories that make history.
#8 huma_mir
Okay, huma, I’ll check it out. I must be too stoned to notice the difference. ;)
#9 ana
Hey, ana. Yes, this was first published in, I think, the August issue of bandbaja.org. And if you did get the “political economy fused with pop culture bit” (and which I think you did), kindly explain it to twintopaz. She too seems to be spending a lot of time reading Khawateen Digest and turning into a jumbo prawn.
#10 twintopaz
(See above: #9).
(And now below)
There. Now I hope your stiff neck is a lot better. Try the same with your attitude. Loosen up. Everything is political. Even your neck ache.
#11 AhmedBilal
Hello Ahmed. Yes I did hear about Zak’s double album. But then, I’ve been hearing about it for quite a while now. Let’s hope this time it does come. And nope. Still no sign of Atish Raj’s lost master tape. Still searching, bro. I handed out a few copies back in 1995. I wish someone still holding one can read this and deliver.
#12 adityapant
Yes, I have read that book. Such studies have become vital in today’s Pakistan (or for that matter, India).
#13 spider
I chose 1966 because I believe here lay the true beginnings homespun pop. “Cococoreena” was the start.
#14 CoolHandLuke
Come on, Luke, I think recent events in this context are pretty much covered.
#15 syke
Yes, syke, this did take some running around. And for this I would like to thank bandbaja’s Omar Tariq and Safwat. Two of the finest new Pakistani music journalists (and far more sober, sensible and patient than I ever was.)
Rgds,
NfP
#15 Posted by ana on December 14, 2004 6:46:35 am
this feels like deja-vu to me. was some of this published in bandbaja a while back? the ``political economy fused with pop culture`` bit?
#14 Posted by twintopaz on December 14, 2004 6:46:35 am
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