India Did Not Kick Us Out

Re: # 169

Please forgive me O enlightened one! Of course you don`t think on ``caste lines`` anymore. Now you just hate North Indians, which is much more civilised! Will I ever be forgiven, you think?

re: North Indian prejudice
A classic eg of North Indian color prejudice is presented here. This is from The sunday edition of a Paki daily:
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/(at ``Welcome to India`` in Footloose)
(``Most Pakistani girls have a very fair complexion, it seems,`` giggled a sprightly Gagan Singh, a student of engineering at a university in Amritsar after we had opened up to each other. ``Except in Amritsar,`` he continued, ``the majority of Indian girls have a very dark complexion here,..)
Need is say more?
Sridhar

re:#176 by delhiwala
Do u make the same observation when u visit Bihar?
My contention is that India is inhabited by predominantly dark skinned people, so it does not make sense to talk about skin color unless one is racist.
Sikhs are predominantly to be found in Punjab and are scattered around the rest of India. To someone visiting Punjab for the first time, their overwhelming presence is striking.
Anyway, sorry for being rude in my last post.
Sridhar

Re: # 174
Rsrishar,
I am not racist at all. You are misrepresenting my words due to some agenda.

What is wrong in calling dark skinned people dark?

African Americans are referred as Black, right.

It was just an observation. I often hear visitors to Punjab saying, I have never seen so many Turbanned people before.....

Please be rational.

Re: # 170
Couldn`t agree more. It is is down right frustrating, when one finds thought evoking material in all sincereity of purpose, posted on CHOWK, being trivialized into irrelevancy, simply on account of intolerant, agressive, and the most casual comments by individuals who can`t possibly find another forum, to clean and litter their laundry.

CHOWK provides for all tastes, and hopefully with the new mangement, things will improve.

Thank You CHOWK staff. I sincerely hope that you with the help of most of your members, would succeed in allowing sober and serious discussions and debates to carry on.

Ciao

re: #173 by delhiwala
(I was 14 years old and hated every single moment in that over crowded Station where you could see these dark skinned people a...)
Another north indian pig boasting about his superior color.
All Indians are black, some blacker than the others. That is my opinion.
Sridhar

O Hyderabad, O NaamPalli!!

My memories of that old city.

I distinctly remember when I first landed at Secundrabad station from Nizammuddin Express, after a short haul at Nagpur. Our Sarkari Driver did not show up to pick us up and we had to walk carrying our own luggage. I was 14 years old and hated every single moment in that over crowded Station where you could see these dark skinned people and so many Burqa wearing Muslim woman squatting on the platform. It seemed that everyone chewed Paan and then spit right in front of them like a projectile at 90 Degrees angle that turns into an arc few feet away.

For a first time visitor overwhelmingly stupid accent is a stark observation. ``HOOW`` instead of ``Yes``. ``Nako Jee`` for ``No``.

Our Fauji friends from Punjab who were in EME in Secundrabad told us that there is a Gurudwara 100 yards away from the station and we can get a bus to go to Hyderabad.

We walked towards the Gurudwara fighting among the crowd of beggars and locals(all non-Sikhs) who were hanging outside to get free food. I slowly started realizing that I am not in North India anymore. Another fact that stuck me was that Muslims were not like Muslims as I had known them, they did not speak Urdu/Punjabi but their own version of Urdu and Telegu and they looked very docile.

Both Hindu and Muslim woman would wear Red ``chameli-ke-Phoolo Ka Ghuccha`` in their head. Young Muslim woman would wear a Burqa in such a way that you could see their face, hands and legs clearly. Muslim men would have a beard and Skull Cap, would be riding their Bajaj Chetak Scooters and their young wives clutching on their Husbands waist. You could see people staring at such couples with jealousy.

Some time later we took Bus Number ``17``(I am pretty sure) to Charminar. For some reason I felt that locals were afraid of us Sikhs, I don’t know why.
This bus reminded me of Meerut Cantt where bus had dividers in the middle for men/woman. Muslim woman would sit only behind Purdah, others would mix freely with rest of the passengers. Here again, I saw the pich…pich of Paan spitting. It was very annoying.

Finally we landed at Charminar Stop, only to be swarmed by Cycle -Rickshawalas. Out host was a famous Muslim of yesteryears that my dad knew from his Work. On hearing this man`s name Rickshawalas backed out and we were left alone, he was a big shot. We decided to walk to his house. Charminar is a nice building where every year some people decide to commit suicide by jumping from it. Charminar is also home to famous Bedree work done on metals.

My father once again amazed me with his knowledge of Urdu and Farsi, my dad told me that he was a Hafiz/Ulem in Urdu and could even understand Farsi. Later on he impressed our Muslim hosts with his knowledge of Shair-o-Shariee.

I can never forget those days.....

Hyderabad is also home to SalarJang Museum that is probably the best museum in India. Visitors would find it to be comparable to any North American Museum if not any better. I highly recommend Salarjang Museum to any visitor to Hyderabad.

We also met a ``Sardar Bahadur``, Mr Gill who is a fifth generation Huderabadi Sikh. We were told that Nizam was afraid of his life from his cousins and other locals.
He requested a contingent of Sikh Army from Maharaja Ranjit sikh, ruler of North India that he willingly obliged, in lieu Nizam offered money and assitance for Huzor Sahib Gurudwara in Nanded that was his territory.
Sikhs stayed on in Hyderabad and Nizam`s Police had significant number of Sikhs.

My Dad`s Nanaji who was a famous Shikari has a monument dedicated to him(that is almost not visible) in old Hyderabad. He was killed by a Tiger during the hunting expedition.

I miss Hyderabad.

#170, Chowk Staff,
Thank you very much for this logical advice. I fully agree with your statement and request Pakihunk aka Scout and others to stop copying, doctoring, and pasting this filth that is totally unrelated to the articles on FP. She has done this on a number of FP boards and I request that you ban this multi-nicked interactor. This is a very interesting topic about the expulsion of Ms. Kermani from Lucknow and I have contributed with my views.
Thanks again,

I know this should be part of feedbacks, but noone may read it.
We should have an honorable duel challage .. in old days a gentelman would request a duel by slapping other with white hand-gloves. chowk should provide such an icon. any time an interactor can challange other interactor using this icon. If the challange is accepted, then they automatically get a duel thread on UP, and they are barred from FP untill the duel is over, which they can do by clicking a duel-over icon (surrender). If the challange is not accepted, the challanger is suspended for 1 week automatically, and the challanged is assumed to have accepted a surrender at that point.

On Sheema, many poor indians and pakis have to suffer lot of misery due to bad visa regime. Sheema should use this opportunity to highlight this casue. (this will ensure that my post is ``filtered``) ;-)

Those of you who wish to bend rules and fight your battles, kindly do so where you started them. Do not mess up other article boards with filth. It will not be tolerated. Your views on the subject under discussion, or art/culture are welcome, though.

One should hope this is clearly understood.

Thank you.

re:#142 by burpinder
Burpi boy,
Do not bring caste equation into everything. Some of us who live in the west for many years now do not think on those lines any more.
Sridhar

Let`s see, our world is dying, through poverty, half of the world`s population lives on less than $2 a day, which adjusting for Purchasing Power Parity does not come to much more than $2 can buy in the US, and adjusted by 1985 prices, it actually comes to an average consumption of a dollar and few cents a day- the environment is being ruined, forests are being destroyed, the world is fast becoming a desert- all through the actions of the captains of the world system, the American Elite; and here we are Indian and Pakistani educated folk, those who can and have the capacity to create history in their region, calling each other names and busy with BS discussions; and we have Hoodbhoy, as a faithful House Slave, worrying about burkhas in Hyderabad.

Wake up people, or pretty soon, you wont have a world to wake up to.

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