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unfortunately i am unable to convey when i am teasing you, and when i am preaching. and i run out of things to say to you because there is a hadd to how much one can hit themselves against a brick wall!!!
you are one brick wall, hamid is another. hamid is a wall I can throw paint on every once in a while because I do not take half (or more) of the things he says seriously. you on the other hand, i do take seriously (contrary to what i've said before) . . . .and anyway. . .we know that i do not agree with you all of the time. why should i preach to the already converted?
Posted by
ana
May 3, 2008 11:04 am
masadi:unfortunately i am unable to convey when i am teasing you, and when i am preaching. and i run out of things to say to you because there is a hadd to how much one can hit themselves against a brick wall!!!
you are one brick wall, hamid is another. hamid is a wall I can throw paint on every once in a while because I do not take half (or more) of the things he says seriously. you on the other hand, i do take seriously (contrary to what i've said before) . . . .and anyway. . .we know that i do not agree with you all of the time. why should i preach to the already converted?
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Kul, I would have been the best damn sitar player period! (sports reference!) had I been given the right training. (and had I not been a violent hothead as an adolescent and smashed my sitar against the wall! :(( )
Posted by
ana
May 3, 2008 08:45 am
no doubt that Desis excel in sciences and math. They also excel in music if given the right training.Kul, I would have been the best damn sitar player period! (sports reference!) had I been given the right training. (and had I not been a violent hothead as an adolescent and smashed my sitar against the wall! :(( )
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hamid, seriously though, because i think your saturday morning appearances are another alternative to the morning cartoons, do you really believe that in order to better yourself, you have to be in that state of mind???!!! Why attribute the betterment of yourself as an individual (or group) to a construct that has been used as a means of oppression?
I might add that the gora has not been the only oppressor in this world. My point being that in improving one's mind, one's wealth, the goal should not be to be like the "gora" . . . .
masadi: har muqabala ke kuch usool hotay haiN, it is a foul to tell someone you're trying to top to go fcuk themselves if you have not run out of things to say!
Posted by
ana
May 3, 2008 07:41 am
"white is a state of mind. . ."hamid, seriously though, because i think your saturday morning appearances are another alternative to the morning cartoons, do you really believe that in order to better yourself, you have to be in that state of mind???!!! Why attribute the betterment of yourself as an individual (or group) to a construct that has been used as a means of oppression?
I might add that the gora has not been the only oppressor in this world. My point being that in improving one's mind, one's wealth, the goal should not be to be like the "gora" . . . .
masadi: har muqabala ke kuch usool hotay haiN, it is a foul to tell someone you're trying to top to go fcuk themselves if you have not run out of things to say!
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Turns out they were right afterall. :((
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hamare "nuktahdaan" hamid ne farmaya:
let me start of by saying that i wish i was white, but i am not .... unfortunately, i am a desi like the rest of the poor souls here ... the only consolation is that, alhamdolillah, i am a proud paki instead of a horrible hindoo .... but then again, a paki is nothing but an indian with a bad attitude and somewhat better looks .....
such honesty! subhanallah! vaisay in terms of certain attitudes, you've got plenty gorapan, so don't be too rueful about it. *rolling eyes ikaan*
Posted by
ana
May 3, 2008 07:02 am
I had to beg my parents to let me take sitar lessons. They did not think I was serious enough about it, and why spend all that money on a musical instrument if you weren't serious about it?Turns out they were right afterall. :((
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hamare "nuktahdaan" hamid ne farmaya:
let me start of by saying that i wish i was white, but i am not .... unfortunately, i am a desi like the rest of the poor souls here ... the only consolation is that, alhamdolillah, i am a proud paki instead of a horrible hindoo .... but then again, a paki is nothing but an indian with a bad attitude and somewhat better looks .....
such honesty! subhanallah! vaisay in terms of certain attitudes, you've got plenty gorapan, so don't be too rueful about it. *rolling eyes ikaan*
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Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 09:49 pm
yeah, tell me about it!
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Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 09:11 pm
Eklavya: why should you apologize? arjun and the rest of you are believers, you just believe in something different that's all.
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so how do I reconcile all that...who do I break the news to that they're not going to heaven and are going to be eaten by maggots..probably relished more..
why should you be the herald of such "good news" haiN? arre, as long as you know that you are going to meet the same fate, you could let us figure that out ourselves. Didn't you do that, when you decided there were no answers in the bible?
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 07:46 pm
arjuna:so how do I reconcile all that...who do I break the news to that they're not going to heaven and are going to be eaten by maggots..probably relished more..
why should you be the herald of such "good news" haiN? arre, as long as you know that you are going to meet the same fate, you could let us figure that out ourselves. Didn't you do that, when you decided there were no answers in the bible?
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arre pa ji, koi farq nahin parta, aap kis taapik ko chheReNge, kuch tau log kaheNge. . . just make sure you dot your i's and cross your t's! :)
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 07:22 pm
My next article will be about a non-racial topic: “role of extramarital sex in keeping a spark in marriage”. No, I am not graduating into a new territory, that is Dr. Sohail Sahib’s area. I will stick with my silly nonsense about unimportant stuff, like kids, family, sports and music.arre pa ji, koi farq nahin parta, aap kis taapik ko chheReNge, kuch tau log kaheNge. . . just make sure you dot your i's and cross your t's! :)
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If I was interested in reading religious texts, I would have stuck to my bible...
hmmmm, if you had stuck to your bible (King James? Revised?) you might have stopped asking who the "chosen people" are, no? You may have even been a kinder, gentler person. okay, so that was a major stretch. . . . *dull tympani*
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 05:06 pm
arjuna:If I was interested in reading religious texts, I would have stuck to my bible...
hmmmm, if you had stuck to your bible (King James? Revised?) you might have stopped asking who the "chosen people" are, no? You may have even been a kinder, gentler person. okay, so that was a major stretch. . . . *dull tympani*
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HP: huzoor, it sounds like you have us all figured out. is the ISI's reach really that long????!!!! ;|
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 01:06 pm
stuka #271: i think that might be quite a few of us guessing it was "her", but when majumdar said "respected" i had to question that. :)HP: huzoor, it sounds like you have us all figured out. is the ISI's reach really that long????!!!! ;|
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enjoy your abuse. . .and your hatred.
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 07:01 am
i really had no idea that being gay, or a cabbie, or indian or pakistani was an insult. or being jewish. but this is our nirala chowk, what to do lah? everyone's an authority. . . enjoy your abuse. . .and your hatred.
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good night.
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 02:50 am
It is almost 4 a.m in this part of Amreeka. I would be waking up right about now, rather than being awake due to sleeplessness. I shall retire and attempt to sleep now. good night.
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IF you are not racist, using words like the N-word first of all is not explained away by being non-PC. I do not consider myself to be PC, but I try to draw the line at the point where people's sensibilities might get hurt.
IF you are not racist, then you are a bloody trouble maker!
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 02:46 am
Naqsh,IF you are not racist, using words like the N-word first of all is not explained away by being non-PC. I do not consider myself to be PC, but I try to draw the line at the point where people's sensibilities might get hurt.
IF you are not racist, then you are a bloody trouble maker!
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and i am simply questioning your friend's testimony, because that very characterization of blacks as being fat lazy asses living on welfare is loaded, and once that is said, any other characterization is suspect. I have no doubt that there are some African-Americans who out of anger, or resentment, or plain ignorance attack desis, but my own experience has been that of African-Americans finding links and wanting to forge bonds with desis. . .You began this with describing what your friend said as "The black people in the USA. . ." and that is where I have to say either you or your friend has taken something horrible that has happened in one section of one town in the US and applied it at a larger scale. And that's just ridiculous.
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 02:41 am
majumdar,and i am simply questioning your friend's testimony, because that very characterization of blacks as being fat lazy asses living on welfare is loaded, and once that is said, any other characterization is suspect. I have no doubt that there are some African-Americans who out of anger, or resentment, or plain ignorance attack desis, but my own experience has been that of African-Americans finding links and wanting to forge bonds with desis. . .You began this with describing what your friend said as "The black people in the USA. . ." and that is where I have to say either you or your friend has taken something horrible that has happened in one section of one town in the US and applied it at a larger scale. And that's just ridiculous.
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well then you should know that there are Pakistanis, and I will refrain from making generalizations as your friend did who are prejudiced bigots, and consider black people to be as low as some of them think certain Pakistanis are. You may not have reason yourself to disbelieve her testimony but you should definitely question it.
Fortysomething years ago, my father was in this country, my father being a Pakistani Punjabi who is actually lighter in complexion than I am. And as a struggling resident in a clinic/hospital, he was told by a white man that he did not want to be seen by a "n----r" Now granted, that was fortysomething years ago, but Pakistanis or Indians should be under no illusions about being spared of racism or bigotry from certain Americans, and they are not all black. The terminology may change over time, but some of the attitudes are still very much there.
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 01:52 am
majumdar,well then you should know that there are Pakistanis, and I will refrain from making generalizations as your friend did who are prejudiced bigots, and consider black people to be as low as some of them think certain Pakistanis are. You may not have reason yourself to disbelieve her testimony but you should definitely question it.
Fortysomething years ago, my father was in this country, my father being a Pakistani Punjabi who is actually lighter in complexion than I am. And as a struggling resident in a clinic/hospital, he was told by a white man that he did not want to be seen by a "n----r" Now granted, that was fortysomething years ago, but Pakistanis or Indians should be under no illusions about being spared of racism or bigotry from certain Americans, and they are not all black. The terminology may change over time, but some of the attitudes are still very much there.
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The racial problem has been a problem (and still is) for those who you call "chinks" and "Japs". Perhaps you should read up on some history before asking these questions. Perhaps you have not heard of the Chinese exclusion act, or the fact that Japanese-Americans, were put in " relocation camps" during WWII, and that was not for their protection. That was racially based. Asians in America have made strides as well, but it was not too long ago that they were addressing issues regarding racism and prejudice.
And nkg, I do not know where you live right now, but the terms "chink" and "jap" are considered derogatory in this country and racist. So please check yourself before you defend your own against the charge of racism. Thank you.
majumdar:
you are joking right? Do tell me that you do not take the words of whoever that was seriously? Good grief!
and calling me ana would suffice. i don't like the "ji" added. . . thanks :)
Posted by
ana
May 2, 2008 01:32 am
nkg:The racial problem has been a problem (and still is) for those who you call "chinks" and "Japs". Perhaps you should read up on some history before asking these questions. Perhaps you have not heard of the Chinese exclusion act, or the fact that Japanese-Americans, were put in " relocation camps" during WWII, and that was not for their protection. That was racially based. Asians in America have made strides as well, but it was not too long ago that they were addressing issues regarding racism and prejudice.
And nkg, I do not know where you live right now, but the terms "chink" and "jap" are considered derogatory in this country and racist. So please check yourself before you defend your own against the charge of racism. Thank you.
majumdar:
you are joking right? Do tell me that you do not take the words of whoever that was seriously? Good grief!
and calling me ana would suffice. i don't like the "ji" added. . . thanks :)
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