Afghanistan - A Strategic Analysis Wow, all this name-calling (typical of pee ke daru hamre Chowkwale among others) and conversation makes me wish I could actually watch all of you drinking scotch, Tharra, or whiskey, while partaking of some myself. . .who likes Irish whiskey around here?! Kulharee?

Pavo, you can still talk, while some are still listening to you. your caps lock is screaming at us. Please tone it down. :)

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and New American Dreams Well, my apologies, Masadi. I guess your arrogance knows no bounds. First you seem to know all there is to know about hamidm and Tahmed, then you think your opinion of Dr. King is all that matters, and finally, you know more about what is happening to black folk in America than the black folk themselves.

I think I should just leave you to your love affair with yourself.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and New American Dreams My goodness Masadi, what incompetent jasoos did you hire to learn all this stuff about Hamid? I mean most of us already know that he drinks scotch and is a disciple of the great George Carlin, although I think he should have followed Richard Pryor.

Furthermore, where do you get off talking about how Martin Luther King Jr. was a sell-out? I have read these words from you enough times, and let me tell you, you are incorrect sir. Of course slandering just about everyone here, the living as well as the dead, is your modus operandi. Do you live in Amreeka, Masadi? Do you really mean to insult the intelligence of countless African-Americans who unlike you, do not think of King as a sell-out?

Even furthermore, it is not up to Obama alone to lead this godforsaken country back to some semblance of decency. Quite ironic that you should be preaching about decency, since you fail to show any here.

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Who is this guy anyway? Is he another echoboom? Is he the same as boom boom? At least boom boom knows poetry. . .

The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party Is there some reason why my post #117 got flagged? I was not calling anyone a "muttarwa", if it was, it would not have been in quotes. I guess some people are not intelligent enough to understand that I was quoting the pos(t)er who said that.

What I have said is nothing compared to what has come from some of your bloody keyboards. . . how pathetic.

The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party Hurricane: I would beg to differ here. There is no brotherly love between some of these brothers, but thank you for being positive here.

Viqar: If you can say that about the "muttarwas", then why not apply it to some of the Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluch and Pashtuns as well? Y'aani ke I am not buying the argument that mohajirs are not Pakistanis. That level of thinking simply does not work for me.

Khair, time to say good night. . .

The Dirty Tricks Brigade Tries to Spoil a Party Wow forget the "Injuns bashing Pakis" here. YahaaN tau Pakistanis are bashing Pakistanis. Good grief guys, aagay baRhnay ki tau koi gunjaish hi nahiN. . .

Charlie Wilson\'s War Stretches the Imagination HP: Thank you for clearing that up for me. :)

Chalta: You don't remember much about me do you? LOL. I could use a few lessons in economics and politics myself, but not from any one here, thank you!!! I am the English major who eschewed economics and paalitiks.

Masadi: I cannot agree that Tauheed sahib has stabbed "our" people in the back (behind was even more painful to contemplate)in favor of the gora babu. I think he has lived amongst goras for a long long while, as has Hamid sahib, but he still has "our" people's best interests at heart. But since you don't listen to reason and we disappoint and disgust you, all this was in vain. . .

Shab-e-khair!

Charlie Wilson\'s War Stretches the Imagination HP: I always thought that ji was very much a part of Punjab culture because I heard it used so much, even in Punjabi, like "aaho ji!" The point where I begin to make fun of it is when it sounds sycophantic like "mian ji" Anyway. . .

Charlie Wilson\'s War Stretches the Imagination maazrat khwah: i meant reread HP's post.

Charlie Wilson\'s War Stretches the Imagination HP sahib: I had no idea "ji" was an alien alqab! I grew up using this in Lahore mostly with elders like grandparents, uncles, aunts. . . I should definitely try to kick the habit. . .

Vaisay, I know he was commenting on the acting talent, I just thought I'd be contrary for the fun of it. :)

Masadi: I do not think I have ever interacted with you, but I know of your distate for Tauheed sahib. Having said that HP was being critical of me for how I addressed Tahmed, and not Tauheed. If you did not get that, I think you need to reread your post. Unless you feel you must express your disgust even when he is remotely involved.

Charlie Wilson\'s War Stretches the Imagination Tahmed ji:

Om Puri in your opinion may be the ugliest actor, but he's a bloody good one and Punjabi to boot, so Old Surma-eyes might not be so hopping mad in hell afterall. :D

Pakistan\'s Flawed and Feudal Princess What I have a problem with Zeemax is you assuming what I know over my questioning what you know. And believe me, you know nothing about what I think about those bomber cowards.

But I'll tell you what. you have taught me something valuable today. You have taught me that if Christians are Pakistanis, they do not have to be referred to as Pakistani Christian assassins. They can be referred to as religious extremists, just as our fellow Muslim assassins. Be they the effin' best, or not. Or just plain murderers. No need to bring their faith (hypocritical or not) into it. . . that's it. . . Ah, I like that. I like just being referred to as a Pakistani, as do probably the Christian assassins except that I'm not one anymore, so there goes that idea. . .

Pakistan\'s Flawed and Feudal Princess zeemax:

I am not in Lahore right now. Are you?

What you have described about the Defense Thana is not beyond the realm of disbelief, afterall, corruption is rampant, but I still would not have taken this to the so-called logical conclusion that you did. Nor do I buy the "detail" or "fact" that the "Christian assasins" are the best.

Anyway, I have to go to work now. . .


And no, Zeemax, I did not go to a convent school called St. Joseph's. I went to a school in Lahore where the majority of the students were Muslim. And I knew Muslim girls I could call my best friends. Where was the moralizing in what I said earlier? You can spin your conspiracies but when I tell you that I know Christians who have been beaten up in Lahore for saying amongst a group of Muslims that Jesus is the son of God, you accuse me of moralizing and call me a bimbo? Wah ji wah. My facts make me an effin' bimbo, and yours make you the king of the hill. That is truly frightening. . . .

Good luck in your world.

Pakistan\'s Flawed and Feudal Princess tahmed32:

Have you been possessed by the spirits of Geraldo Rivera, Jerry Springer, or the Grand Inquisitor in asking me that question in #133?!?

zeemax:

Your personal experience aside, and personal and professional aside, for your fellow Muslims, insinuating that a Christian could have been an assassin is dragging the community into it. I mean look what happened to a Christian village when one Christian man was wrongly accused of destroying a page from the Quran. Now that did not happen when a Muslim man desecrated it, did it? They went after just that one man. So please forgive me if I am not convinced about you NOT dragging the Christian community into this sordid mess, even if you had Christians as best friends. Details ki baat aur hai, aur fact ki baat aur hai. And for goodness sakes, Zeemax, do you still not recognize the irony or sarcasm in hamid's posts???

hamidm2:

I find that lengthy absences from Chowk are good for the soul, and one's mental health. Which would explain a lot of things here. :)

Pakistan\'s Flawed and Feudal Princess hamidm2

Hai, hai! (not to be confused with yes, yes! in Japanese) Not only am I not fair-skinned enough, but also, murder is one of the ten commandments I have not broken yet. :)

Pakistan\'s Flawed and Feudal Princess Oh lovely, when something goes dreadfully wrong, why not go and blame the Christian community? A hired Christian assassin, my ass.

Some of you, as not entirely surprising, have some rather incredible misconceptions about the Christian community in the Punjab, let alone Pakistan. As a Christian, let me tell you first of all, that there are fair-skinned Christians in our community. Secondly, many of us are not political by choice, and many of us have stuck with the Pakistan Peoples Party, because of its supposed progressive policies, which we are still waiting for, should a suitable PPP leader head the government again.

This conspiracy is simply out there and a bunch of behooda bakwaas. I guess it is not possible that a Muslim brother from any part of Pakistan could have done this, no let's drag the "chooras" into it. I hope no one else is taking your "witchhunt" seriously.