The \'poor\' Neighbour
Posted by
jang
Aug 17, 2007 05:28 am
before anyone notices...wtf? its dalrymple on chowk? is he going to interact?
What about Bombay 1992?
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 07:41 pm
yar tahmed, try eating those quaker oats..they cause all kinda violence in the bowels.
What about Bombay 1992?
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 03:30 pm
yar pardesi, salim et al..you guys are talking about some strange planet....its very rare that a political demagogue gets prosecuted for this kinda stuff. please talk about what is remotely possible..or join tahmed ;-)
What about Bombay 1992?
i got a local politician to get me a ridfe to the airport thru curfew and reached there rather early with some ariline crew. there was no ice at the airport bar. one gora was complaining..so the barkeep said "sala murdey rakhne ke lite barf kam pad rahe hain aur isko whisky mein barf chahiye". so i stuck to beer.
i agree that justice is not to be begged, but demanded.
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 01:13 pm
i have a couple of memories of the 92 riot..although i had left mumbai for a while, i was visiting. once the curfew was lifted there was a sad line of migrant muslim families leaving town for safety. so i asked our local boys..wtf (we never had riots before anyways)? he said, yeah..they are all new to the neighborhood ..look at the new mosque..its fortified with 10-ft high walls.i got a local politician to get me a ridfe to the airport thru curfew and reached there rather early with some ariline crew. there was no ice at the airport bar. one gora was complaining..so the barkeep said "sala murdey rakhne ke lite barf kam pad rahe hain aur isko whisky mein barf chahiye". so i stuck to beer.
i agree that justice is not to be begged, but demanded.
What about Bombay 1992?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_Riots
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 08:09 am
just posting a short wiki entry in the riots. its brief.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_Riots
What about Bombay 1992?
since these riots are not civil wars between communities, such police action is sufficient, esp considering the "rioters" are not armed with serious weapons.
in short, the congress govt (which controlled police) that time calculated wrong and did not press police and that is how the riot got out of hand. as riot develops, political opportunity materializes, that is the simple fact.
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 07:56 am
no police in the world is truly "professional", and to expect indian police, which are extention of the state political machinary is not something possible. the political will eventually gets the police to act. after the riots and the bombs, the police were ordered to make sure that riots dont happen. the police complied by formation of a special RAF (rapid-action force) squads, which can shot-up at any place within 10 minutes, armed to the teeth with automatic weapons and somewhat armoured cars. there were attempts at forming more riots afterwards also, but these RAF vans made sure that it does not happen. but ultimately it was political will of the govt which got this done.since these riots are not civil wars between communities, such police action is sufficient, esp considering the "rioters" are not armed with serious weapons.
in short, the congress govt (which controlled police) that time calculated wrong and did not press police and that is how the riot got out of hand. as riot develops, political opportunity materializes, that is the simple fact.
What about Bombay 1992?
they however could not have done it without the existing environment, which had been brewing for a while. shivsena is not a crazy organization, they have some amount of brainwashing against the muslims but they are a calculating political party and use the existing environmental conditions with street-grabbing mafia style...they are prolly out MQM but without guns.
Posted by
jang
Aug 16, 2007 05:42 am
#34 sure sure it was a calculated power-grab by shivsena, making the "best" out of communal anger that existed. they managed to change the local bakery name to "maharashtra bakery" (after damaging it)...the focus on muslim bussinesses was the easiest thing they could do...sending a message they they own the street.they however could not have done it without the existing environment, which had been brewing for a while. shivsena is not a crazy organization, they have some amount of brainwashing against the muslims but they are a calculating political party and use the existing environmental conditions with street-grabbing mafia style...they are prolly out MQM but without guns.
Javed Miandad : My Man Friday
Posted by
jang
Aug 15, 2007 05:12 am
#4 in many places in the world, you are known by the company you keep...samdhi is a relation of choice.
India\'s Yin and Yang 60 years After Independence
Posted by
jang
Aug 14, 2007 08:37 pm
I guess india has been "free" for 60 years but slumbering as a nation for at least 1000 years. Good news is there is a lot of "potential".
Javed Miandad : My Man Friday
Posted by
jang
Aug 14, 2007 07:52 pm
isnt he samndhi of an international gangster?
Cause For Celebration
can you elaborate a little about this? do you mean its moorish, or byzentine? or maybe disney-alladin style? its unclear what an islamic facade means.
Posted by
jang
Aug 9, 2007 08:15 pm
"Impressive architecture with a distinctive Islamic façade meets the eye."can you elaborate a little about this? do you mean its moorish, or byzentine? or maybe disney-alladin style? its unclear what an islamic facade means.
A New US Vision?
Posted by
jang
Aug 9, 2007 06:56 am
this article reads like a blackmail.
Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement
Posted by
jang
Aug 9, 2007 05:16 am
mohar and giani, what tahmed means is we should laud his inane pontifications on the chowk.com .. that is what he means by how indians should help ;-)
Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement
Posted by
jang
Aug 8, 2007 05:47 pm
#588 tahmed, watch your language...we do not take the perjorative achoot lightly.
Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement
cliftonbi, its the bunnies that make rattlesnake hunting impossible..muddy up the waters, provide deniability for the states jihadi actions. tahmed is a great example. hopefefully borivli local will remove the cobwebs from tahmeds toungue ;-)
Posted by
jang
Aug 8, 2007 05:20 am
yar borivli, didnt you read the noose or you got stuck on platform 2 at kandivli...sanjay dutt was convicted. he is at least half-hindu, after all his name is that of a famous mahabharat charoteer and reciter.cliftonbi, its the bunnies that make rattlesnake hunting impossible..muddy up the waters, provide deniability for the states jihadi actions. tahmed is a great example. hopefefully borivli local will remove the cobwebs from tahmeds toungue ;-)
Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement
yeh..you tell tahmed. its his duty to carry out jihad and not using perfidious hindu technique a la krishna, but honest paki method..dont hide, be open and conduct it. paki public is (aparently) fully behind you (to get justice for kashmiri brothers who are under hindu occupation) so why worry? all you got is some hindu liberals, get them some free cabs and maybe we can install bamiyan buddha back again.
Posted by
jang
Aug 7, 2007 07:30 pm
#500 borivli fast local (there is no such a thing as an authentic borivli express)yeh..you tell tahmed. its his duty to carry out jihad and not using perfidious hindu technique a la krishna, but honest paki method..dont hide, be open and conduct it. paki public is (aparently) fully behind you (to get justice for kashmiri brothers who are under hindu occupation) so why worry? all you got is some hindu liberals, get them some free cabs and maybe we can install bamiyan buddha back again.
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