Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad
Can you explain the Gujarat murders of 2002 or the Sikh riots of 1984 in the land of the (alleged) Mahatma?
Majumdar bhai, you might have noticed that the other illustrious son of Gujarat and the founder of a neighboring country has been increasingly beginning to gain approval from Indians. Maybe that should explain it.
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harish_hyd
Jun 11, 2008 05:10 am
#211 by majumdarCan you explain the Gujarat murders of 2002 or the Sikh riots of 1984 in the land of the (alleged) Mahatma?
Majumdar bhai, you might have noticed that the other illustrious son of Gujarat and the founder of a neighboring country has been increasingly beginning to gain approval from Indians. Maybe that should explain it.
Pakistan\'s Nuclear Test - Ten Years Later
Majumdar bhai, you're getting more desperate by the day. There's a saying in Telugu which crudely translates into: "When asked who robbed the pumpkin, the thief was the only one who shrugged his shoulders".
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harish_hyd
Jun 4, 2008 05:17 am
#442 by majumdarMajumdar bhai, you're getting more desperate by the day. There's a saying in Telugu which crudely translates into: "When asked who robbed the pumpkin, the thief was the only one who shrugged his shoulders".
Pakistan\'s Nuclear Test - Ten Years Later
The civilian casualties are a fact of modern warfare; it is impossible to avoid them. Personally, I don't understand why they should be avoided at all.
And yet you don't hesitate to shed crocodile tears for civilians killed by USAF jets in Iraq/Afghanistan or Predator drones in FATA. Is it because the civilians are Muslims and not Kafirs?
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harish_hyd
May 29, 2008 10:13 pm
#54 by UrstrulyThe civilian casualties are a fact of modern warfare; it is impossible to avoid them. Personally, I don't understand why they should be avoided at all.
And yet you don't hesitate to shed crocodile tears for civilians killed by USAF jets in Iraq/Afghanistan or Predator drones in FATA. Is it because the civilians are Muslims and not Kafirs?
Pakistan\'s Nuclear Test - Ten Years Later
Posted by
harish_hyd
May 29, 2008 04:25 am
Pakistan's whole nuclear program is based on the false premise that India is out to gobble it up, but today it is the US that regularly attacks Pakis inside Pakistan. What are the nuclear weapons going to do to the US? The Jihadis have almost completely destabilized the country but is there anything the nukes can do about it? Billions of dollars and years of scandals and opprobrium later, Pakis aren't any safer than they were before the nukes.
Dancing on Broken Glass
While I dont see the Pakistanis being thrilled with a mid-term poll, I don't see them again welcoming a military coup again. If not for anything else, for Lal Masjid.
Majumdar bhai, the public has a short memory. All the next army chief needs to do to appease the public is try Mushy for the Lal Masjid killings and people will welcome him with open arms.
After all, Zia hanged Bhutto who was supposedly Pakistan's most loved leader and still continued to rule the country till his death.
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harish_hyd
May 29, 2008 02:44 am
#175 by majumdarWhile I dont see the Pakistanis being thrilled with a mid-term poll, I don't see them again welcoming a military coup again. If not for anything else, for Lal Masjid.
Majumdar bhai, the public has a short memory. All the next army chief needs to do to appease the public is try Mushy for the Lal Masjid killings and people will welcome him with open arms.
After all, Zia hanged Bhutto who was supposedly Pakistan's most loved leader and still continued to rule the country till his death.
Dancing on Broken Glass
If the present govt falls and new elections throw up another govt it is no great cause for concern. India has had three premature elections in the 1990s - 1991, 1998, 1999 in addition to the regular ones and was none the worse for it.
Majumdar bhai, please do not compare the situations in India and Pakistan. Before the 1991, 1998, and 1999 premature elections, India had about 4 decades (barring the emergency) of stable elected governments. Pakistan is just finding its democratic feet after about 6 decades. If the present govt falls due to the bickering between NS and Zardari, Pakis being an impatient people will not take it too kindly and who knows that might be the toehold that the next army chief needs to wrestle back into power? And then Pakis will jump onto the streets in wild celebrations as we saw when Mushy kicked out Nawaz in '99.
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harish_hyd
May 29, 2008 02:24 am
#173 by majumdarIf the present govt falls and new elections throw up another govt it is no great cause for concern. India has had three premature elections in the 1990s - 1991, 1998, 1999 in addition to the regular ones and was none the worse for it.
Majumdar bhai, please do not compare the situations in India and Pakistan. Before the 1991, 1998, and 1999 premature elections, India had about 4 decades (barring the emergency) of stable elected governments. Pakistan is just finding its democratic feet after about 6 decades. If the present govt falls due to the bickering between NS and Zardari, Pakis being an impatient people will not take it too kindly and who knows that might be the toehold that the next army chief needs to wrestle back into power? And then Pakis will jump onto the streets in wild celebrations as we saw when Mushy kicked out Nawaz in '99.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Minus the insults, a great post Masadi sahib!
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harish_hyd
May 28, 2008 11:16 pm
#116 by masadiMinus the insults, a great post Masadi sahib!
India-US Nuclear Deal
Majumdar bhai, well said!
But what else did you expect from the traitors who held India responsible for the 1962 India-China war?
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harish_hyd
May 28, 2008 04:40 am
#5 by majumdarMajumdar bhai, well said!
But what else did you expect from the traitors who held India responsible for the 1962 India-China war?
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Majumdar bhai, I know at least Brahmins in Bengal eat fish but wasn't aware that they do so in some other places too, but overwhelmingly they are vegetarian and were perhaps so from times immemorial.
AFAIK vegetarianism is not widespread; most Hindus are non-vegetarian. Jains are vegetarian (assuming they belong to a distinct religion Jainism) but you are right in saying it perhaps influenced some non-Jains into vegetarianism.
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harish_hyd
May 28, 2008 12:27 am
#37 by majumdarMajumdar bhai, I know at least Brahmins in Bengal eat fish but wasn't aware that they do so in some other places too, but overwhelmingly they are vegetarian and were perhaps so from times immemorial.
AFAIK vegetarianism is not widespread; most Hindus are non-vegetarian. Jains are vegetarian (assuming they belong to a distinct religion Jainism) but you are right in saying it perhaps influenced some non-Jains into vegetarianism.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
When Murad Saab's job is to demystify the saatvik qualities we associate with the present day Hinduism, where is the question of him searching for the goodness in it.
Vengat garu, Murad's area of expertise I believe is automobiles and he should have stuck to that. I guess this is what happens when you try your luck with something you know nothing about.
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harish_hyd
May 28, 2008 12:13 am
#36 by vengatramananWhen Murad Saab's job is to demystify the saatvik qualities we associate with the present day Hinduism, where is the question of him searching for the goodness in it.
Vengat garu, Murad's area of expertise I believe is automobiles and he should have stuck to that. I guess this is what happens when you try your luck with something you know nothing about.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Ahimsa and vegeterianism is to a great extent Jain import, Vedic Hindooism is rife with reference to meat eating and animal sacrifice. And Buddha became a Vishnu avatar.
Vegetarianism was already a part of Hinduism even before Buddhism and Jainism were founded but the only practitioners were the Rishis (again, not all of them) and saints and highly spiritual people. Non-vegetarian food is not considered Satvik and Satvik food is considered very essential for highly spiritual pursuits, which is why Brahmins do not (or at least they're not supposed to) consume non-vegetarian food.
Ahimsa IMHO was never a part of Hinduism. It was the "racist, casteist, misogyinst, and fascist bigot" who brought it into vogue.
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harish_hyd
May 27, 2008 11:57 pm
#33 by majumdarAhimsa and vegeterianism is to a great extent Jain import, Vedic Hindooism is rife with reference to meat eating and animal sacrifice. And Buddha became a Vishnu avatar.
Vegetarianism was already a part of Hinduism even before Buddhism and Jainism were founded but the only practitioners were the Rishis (again, not all of them) and saints and highly spiritual people. Non-vegetarian food is not considered Satvik and Satvik food is considered very essential for highly spiritual pursuits, which is why Brahmins do not (or at least they're not supposed to) consume non-vegetarian food.
Ahimsa IMHO was never a part of Hinduism. It was the "racist, casteist, misogyinst, and fascist bigot" who brought it into vogue.
Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?
Half-a$$ed folks like this Baig dude will never mention Sankara's peaceful conquests.
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harish_hyd
May 27, 2008 11:40 pm
Majumdar bhai, Vengat garu etc., Adi Sankara played a huge part in revitalizing Hinduism at a time when Buddhism and Jainism were gaining ground all across India. He engaged in debates with scholars from these religions on the condition that the loser will adopt the winner's religion. And sure enough, no one could trump him.Half-a$$ed folks like this Baig dude will never mention Sankara's peaceful conquests.
Dancing on Broken Glass
Any country that can't solve the untouchable issue, should be under the UN watch! The democracy in that country will remain sham until they learn to treat people equally.
HP sahib, in that case, Pakistan should have been under UN watch right from its independence. Any country that has 98% of its population adhering to a single religion and is still not cohesive needs strict monitoring. As for the caste system which you're so fond of pointing out, why was Mukhtaran Mai raped? Now don't come up with all sorts of justification as to how the feudal system is responsible for it or how it is a Hindu cultural influence. Islam should have unified Pakistan long ago, but it still hasn't managed to. The answer perhaps lies in introspection.
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harish_hyd
May 27, 2008 11:14 pm
#147 by HPAny country that can't solve the untouchable issue, should be under the UN watch! The democracy in that country will remain sham until they learn to treat people equally.
HP sahib, in that case, Pakistan should have been under UN watch right from its independence. Any country that has 98% of its population adhering to a single religion and is still not cohesive needs strict monitoring. As for the caste system which you're so fond of pointing out, why was Mukhtaran Mai raped? Now don't come up with all sorts of justification as to how the feudal system is responsible for it or how it is a Hindu cultural influence. Islam should have unified Pakistan long ago, but it still hasn't managed to. The answer perhaps lies in introspection.
Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice
Mosquitoes breed wherever there is greenry and water, so I dont see why they could not have bred in AKP.
The presence (or the lack thereof) of mosquitoes is more dependent on the maintenance and less on greenery and water. Majumdar bhai, when you're in Hyderabad the next time, I'll take you to some eateries on the Necklace Road by the Hussain Sagar lake, one of the filthiest water bodies I've ever seen. You will be surprised.
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harish_hyd
May 25, 2008 08:18 pm
#341 by majumdarMosquitoes breed wherever there is greenry and water, so I dont see why they could not have bred in AKP.
The presence (or the lack thereof) of mosquitoes is more dependent on the maintenance and less on greenery and water. Majumdar bhai, when you're in Hyderabad the next time, I'll take you to some eateries on the Necklace Road by the Hussain Sagar lake, one of the filthiest water bodies I've ever seen. You will be surprised.
Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice
'Cos she was denied penicillin by MKG, not by the Brits.
Majumdar bhai, please stop mixing up issues. MKG's penchant for nature cure is a whole different story, perhaps for another occasion.
I have twice contracted malaria myself although I have never lived in slums (or Aga Khan's palace for that matter).
If your home was anywhere comparable to the AKP as per Yasser's (and your own) claim, perhaps you wouldn't have contracted it.
Posted by
harish_hyd
May 25, 2008 07:59 pm
#338 by majumdar'Cos she was denied penicillin by MKG, not by the Brits.
Majumdar bhai, please stop mixing up issues. MKG's penchant for nature cure is a whole different story, perhaps for another occasion.
I have twice contracted malaria myself although I have never lived in slums (or Aga Khan's palace for that matter).
If your home was anywhere comparable to the AKP as per Yasser's (and your own) claim, perhaps you wouldn't have contracted it.
Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice
And mind you ... I only came in after Harish mian claimed that he had never heard of Aga Khan's palace being the place of Gandhi's incarceration which it certainly was.
Yasser mian, now your dishonesty is really shining through. First of all, I did not claim that Gandhi was never imprisoned at the Aga Khan palace. After all the debates we've had through the years where you made it a point to highlight this particular episode, it would be foolish of me to deny it outright. It is your own inadequate comprehension skills that you thought so. I was merely contesting your assumption that Gandhi by virtue of having been incarcerated there was treated like the Aga Khan himself would be. The fact that his wife died of and he himself was afflicted with malaria (a disease more likely to inflict those living in filthy slums) there belies your claim that he was accorded 5-star treatment there.
The bottom line is that you have been called on your claim that Gandhi was only imprisoned twice. The biggest and perhaps the unkindest slap would be the total refutation with proof of your claim that Gandhi was treated like a king at the AKP.
Posted by
harish_hyd
May 25, 2008 07:25 pm
#252 by MantoLivesAnd mind you ... I only came in after Harish mian claimed that he had never heard of Aga Khan's palace being the place of Gandhi's incarceration which it certainly was.
Yasser mian, now your dishonesty is really shining through. First of all, I did not claim that Gandhi was never imprisoned at the Aga Khan palace. After all the debates we've had through the years where you made it a point to highlight this particular episode, it would be foolish of me to deny it outright. It is your own inadequate comprehension skills that you thought so. I was merely contesting your assumption that Gandhi by virtue of having been incarcerated there was treated like the Aga Khan himself would be. The fact that his wife died of and he himself was afflicted with malaria (a disease more likely to inflict those living in filthy slums) there belies your claim that he was accorded 5-star treatment there.
The bottom line is that you have been called on your claim that Gandhi was only imprisoned twice. The biggest and perhaps the unkindest slap would be the total refutation with proof of your claim that Gandhi was treated like a king at the AKP.
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