The Marriott Bombing: ‘Pakistan’s 9/11’?
I tend to agree. This blast is home grown unless the investigation like that of BB is deliberately misled.
This appears to be the same group as Sheraton, US Consulate, bids on Musharraf, FIA building, Naval war College and assasination of BB.
If you add who benefitted from BB's death? a new working theory comes into existence.
By the way, the only surviving gaurd who also took part in the rescue died the next day of a mysterious accident.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 09:58 pm
Khyber,I tend to agree. This blast is home grown unless the investigation like that of BB is deliberately misled.
This appears to be the same group as Sheraton, US Consulate, bids on Musharraf, FIA building, Naval war College and assasination of BB.
If you add who benefitted from BB's death? a new working theory comes into existence.
By the way, the only surviving gaurd who also took part in the rescue died the next day of a mysterious accident.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
After becoming nuclear, Pakistan had ample time to moderate its policy options in the region. Benazir tried in 1996, but was shown the door by Leghari. For USA, peace and stability in Afghanistan was not desirable.
She again tried in 2001 to bail out Musharraf from Afghanistan. Again Uncle Sam showed no interest.
The worst was that because status quo was maintained, Jihadi policies were not given up.
The concept of strategic depth relates to Pakistan's elongated shape. Some Thought that if the road from Kabul to Kandhar could be used as a lateral in case of war with India, it will give Pakistan many more options of manouvre. What it means is a friendly Afghanistan in case od war.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 10:06 am
Backwash and not BlowBack! I predicted it in 1997 and everyone thought I was crazy.After becoming nuclear, Pakistan had ample time to moderate its policy options in the region. Benazir tried in 1996, but was shown the door by Leghari. For USA, peace and stability in Afghanistan was not desirable.
She again tried in 2001 to bail out Musharraf from Afghanistan. Again Uncle Sam showed no interest.
The worst was that because status quo was maintained, Jihadi policies were not given up.
The concept of strategic depth relates to Pakistan's elongated shape. Some Thought that if the road from Kabul to Kandhar could be used as a lateral in case of war with India, it will give Pakistan many more options of manouvre. What it means is a friendly Afghanistan in case od war.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 09:48 am
not there yet
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 09:31 am
well it is not that.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
What is the meaning of Strategic Depth? I need to be educated.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 08:35 am
Cliftonbridge,What is the meaning of Strategic Depth? I need to be educated.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Efcourse and for some time you shall be my guest at St. Mary's.
I live close by.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 07:31 am
Re: # 152Efcourse and for some time you shall be my guest at St. Mary's.
I live close by.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Nothing that I have alluded to since I joined chowk ever proved a conspiracy theory. So please spare this one too.
Whatever I suugest is always causative and it is up to you to put the linkages togather.
By the way I passed on yur's and Tahmad's salams to Miss Flanagyn.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 06:28 am
Hamid,Nothing that I have alluded to since I joined chowk ever proved a conspiracy theory. So please spare this one too.
Whatever I suugest is always causative and it is up to you to put the linkages togather.
By the way I passed on yur's and Tahmad's salams to Miss Flanagyn.
The Frontier Mail
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 04:01 am
welcome back. Long time no see.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
1. What was that black vehicle which was not checked at the gate and drove straight through? Did it get destroyed in the hotel or did it exit from theother side?
2. A security gaurd who survived by bolting the scence and then took part in the rescue, said that this black vehicle had warned everyone to clear the area.
3. Next day, after having survived the blast, this security gaurd died in a road accident.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 03:19 am
This is in realtion to the hotel blast after seeng the CCRV footage.1. What was that black vehicle which was not checked at the gate and drove straight through? Did it get destroyed in the hotel or did it exit from theother side?
2. A security gaurd who survived by bolting the scence and then took part in the rescue, said that this black vehicle had warned everyone to clear the area.
3. Next day, after having survived the blast, this security gaurd died in a road accident.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
In history, Talibs have been associated with conflict and war for a very long time. It was they who formed the foot soldiers for the invading armies from Central Asia. Again it was they who were the foot soldiers to the Soviet resistance. So that is nothing new.
What is new is my next post.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 03:14 am
HP,In history, Talibs have been associated with conflict and war for a very long time. It was they who formed the foot soldiers for the invading armies from Central Asia. Again it was they who were the foot soldiers to the Soviet resistance. So that is nothing new.
What is new is my next post.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Thats what inquest is about.
I stand by my treat at Marriots.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 22, 2008 01:05 am
HP,Thats what inquest is about.
I stand by my treat at Marriots.
The Marriott Bombing: ‘Pakistan’s 9/11’?
My family had barely turned the corner at 5 minutes distance when the blast took place. Thank God they were outside the range.
The spot of the explosion is so familiar. I always stopped there for a moment to pat two Labradors (golden) called Dodo and Lucy. They were sniffers and always recognised me and my daughter. Very playful indeed!
I also remember the big moustached security guard who used to hold their leash. An ex-soldier, and a veteran of 1971 and an ex-prisoner of war.
God knows how many more that I knew are no more. The tall concierge dressed in red, the Valet drivers, page boys and the scanning machine staff.
I remember that young girl at the entrance next to the Chinese Restaurant Dynasty. She must have been right next to where the big crater is now. She always had that typical greeting smile across her face. I am sure she died with it.
The gentleman waiving with a small child from the fourth floor has turned out to be the ambassodor of Czech Republic. He burnt to death.
Rescue services for high rise bulidings were inadequate. No helicopters came on the roof top. Though the rescue services and Edhi were on the dot, they lacked the expertise to handle a disaster of such propotions.
The explosion has the tell tale signatures of the FIA building in Lahore and is most likely to be the work of a home grown organisation. This organisation is now known for double crossing
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 21, 2008 11:42 pm
Once upon a time it was Called Holiday Inn and it has remained my favourite eating spot for long. I held a number of seminars in the Hall where the Thai cafe now was. Then I also installed the non chemical water treatment sytems on their air conditioning system. Recently, a new cafereria Dum Pukht had opened with traditional Mughal Food. Yesterday, after the evening Mass I debated whether to go there or not. Finally I decided to stay at home and the kids left for Islamabad.My family had barely turned the corner at 5 minutes distance when the blast took place. Thank God they were outside the range.
The spot of the explosion is so familiar. I always stopped there for a moment to pat two Labradors (golden) called Dodo and Lucy. They were sniffers and always recognised me and my daughter. Very playful indeed!
I also remember the big moustached security guard who used to hold their leash. An ex-soldier, and a veteran of 1971 and an ex-prisoner of war.
God knows how many more that I knew are no more. The tall concierge dressed in red, the Valet drivers, page boys and the scanning machine staff.
I remember that young girl at the entrance next to the Chinese Restaurant Dynasty. She must have been right next to where the big crater is now. She always had that typical greeting smile across her face. I am sure she died with it.
The gentleman waiving with a small child from the fourth floor has turned out to be the ambassodor of Czech Republic. He burnt to death.
Rescue services for high rise bulidings were inadequate. No helicopters came on the roof top. Though the rescue services and Edhi were on the dot, they lacked the expertise to handle a disaster of such propotions.
The explosion has the tell tale signatures of the FIA building in Lahore and is most likely to be the work of a home grown organisation. This organisation is now known for double crossing
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Google further
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 21, 2008 11:14 pm
Matloob,Google further
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
I owe you all a treat in Marriot Islamabad and all chowkies around if I am wrong about my theory of the blast I put on this board. Once again.
This is a home grown activity by militant groups that over time have develpoed mulitiple cross connections. The group began as a Anti Shia militant organisation raised to fight the initial Shia influence of Iranian Revolution. Later it split, re split, re re split. Some of the members were also prisoned in India, some are now in Gitmo and some get mysterious bails.
Read names like Omar Sheikh, Amjad Faroogi, Qari saif ullah, Qari Akhtar etc. Google them and get there.
They tried killing Musharraf, perhaps killed BB, FIA building in Lahore, Sheraton, US Consulate in Karachi and now. It all tell tale. No rocket science involved.
Blaming it on PTT appears a diversion.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 21, 2008 10:20 pm
Masadi, HP, Tahmed and other friends,I owe you all a treat in Marriot Islamabad and all chowkies around if I am wrong about my theory of the blast I put on this board. Once again.
This is a home grown activity by militant groups that over time have develpoed mulitiple cross connections. The group began as a Anti Shia militant organisation raised to fight the initial Shia influence of Iranian Revolution. Later it split, re split, re re split. Some of the members were also prisoned in India, some are now in Gitmo and some get mysterious bails.
Read names like Omar Sheikh, Amjad Faroogi, Qari saif ullah, Qari Akhtar etc. Google them and get there.
They tried killing Musharraf, perhaps killed BB, FIA building in Lahore, Sheraton, US Consulate in Karachi and now. It all tell tale. No rocket science involved.
Blaming it on PTT appears a diversion.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
Let me explain Pavo's point.
It is in US interests that the major part of this campaign is fought on Pakistani soil. The Indian Mobilisation with a wink from USA ensured that the the Afghan Boder was denuded of surveillance. Then they pushed everything into Pakistan.
Pakistan's home grown Jihadis regrouped with these militants and formed a new front.
Indiscriminate killing of Pathans by US/NATO strikes and Pakistan army, created hate against USA. Now this entire resistance is Anti-US spearehaeded by pathans.
The centre of gravity of this war has shifted from Afghanistan to Pakistan. As Pakistan Army is right now involved in a full fledged campaign in Bajaur, The Afghan border at Kunhar has been left open by Nato. This is to ensure that maximum fighters from Afganistan cross into Pakistan.
So Pakistan Army kills the militants, innocent civilians as also degrade themselves.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 21, 2008 07:32 am
Bhatti,Let me explain Pavo's point.
It is in US interests that the major part of this campaign is fought on Pakistani soil. The Indian Mobilisation with a wink from USA ensured that the the Afghan Boder was denuded of surveillance. Then they pushed everything into Pakistan.
Pakistan's home grown Jihadis regrouped with these militants and formed a new front.
Indiscriminate killing of Pathans by US/NATO strikes and Pakistan army, created hate against USA. Now this entire resistance is Anti-US spearehaeded by pathans.
The centre of gravity of this war has shifted from Afghanistan to Pakistan. As Pakistan Army is right now involved in a full fledged campaign in Bajaur, The Afghan border at Kunhar has been left open by Nato. This is to ensure that maximum fighters from Afganistan cross into Pakistan.
So Pakistan Army kills the militants, innocent civilians as also degrade themselves.
Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion
My family had barely turned the corner at 5 minutes distance when the blast took place. Thank God they were outside the range.
The spot of the explosion is so familiar. I always stopped there for a moment to pat two Labradors (golden) called Dodo and Lucy. They were sniffers and always recognised me and my daughter. Very playful indeed!
I also remember the big moustached security guard who used to hold their leash. An ex-soldier, and a veteran of 1971 and an ex-prisoner of war.
God knows how many more that I knew are no more. The tall concierge dressed in red, the Valet drivers, page boys and the scanning machine staff.
I remember that young girl at the entrance next to the Chinese Restaurant Dynasty. She must have been right next to where the big crater is now. She always had that typical greeting smile across her face. I am sure she died with it.
The gentleman waiving with a small child from the fourth floor has turned out to be the ambassodor of Czech Republic. He burnt to death.
Rescue services for high rise bulidings were inadequate. No helicopters came on the roof top. Though the rescue services and Edhi were on the dot, they lacked the expertise to handle a disaster of such propotions.
The explosion has the tell tale signatures of the FIA building in Lahore and is most likely to be the work of a home grown organisation. This organisation is now known for double crossing.
Posted by
ijaz_gul
Sep 21, 2008 02:34 am
Once upon a time it was Called Holiday Inn and it has remained my favourite eating spot for long. I held a number of seminars in the Hall where the Thai cafe now was. Then I also installed the non chemical water treatment sytems on their air conditioning system. Recently, a new cafereria Dum Pukht had opened with traditional Mughal Food. Yesterday, after the evening Mass I debated whether to go there or not. Finally I decided to stay at home and the kids left for Islamabad.My family had barely turned the corner at 5 minutes distance when the blast took place. Thank God they were outside the range.
The spot of the explosion is so familiar. I always stopped there for a moment to pat two Labradors (golden) called Dodo and Lucy. They were sniffers and always recognised me and my daughter. Very playful indeed!
I also remember the big moustached security guard who used to hold their leash. An ex-soldier, and a veteran of 1971 and an ex-prisoner of war.
God knows how many more that I knew are no more. The tall concierge dressed in red, the Valet drivers, page boys and the scanning machine staff.
I remember that young girl at the entrance next to the Chinese Restaurant Dynasty. She must have been right next to where the big crater is now. She always had that typical greeting smile across her face. I am sure she died with it.
The gentleman waiving with a small child from the fourth floor has turned out to be the ambassodor of Czech Republic. He burnt to death.
Rescue services for high rise bulidings were inadequate. No helicopters came on the roof top. Though the rescue services and Edhi were on the dot, they lacked the expertise to handle a disaster of such propotions.
The explosion has the tell tale signatures of the FIA building in Lahore and is most likely to be the work of a home grown organisation. This organisation is now known for double crossing.
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