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No we mean Jamiat e ulema hind was pro congress, pro kkk, pro bacha khan, part of the Congress government ...and today its present form JUI-F is led by Mufti Mahmood's son fazlur rahman who is held to be the father of the taliban.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:43 am
No we mean Jamiat e ulema hind was pro congress, pro kkk, pro bacha khan, part of the Congress government ...and today its present form JUI-F is led by Mufti Mahmood's son fazlur rahman who is held to be the father of the taliban.
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Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:40 am
I can't believe that sadna is wasting time when she knows that we were talking of Jamiat e ulema Hind (present day jamiat e ulema islam fazloo group) and not Usmani's breakaway JUI.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Atleast she has now admitted that Mufti Mahmood was a Congress ally till the end.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:33 am
I can't believe sadna's entire argument is based on a deliberate confusion of the names.Atleast she has now admitted that Mufti Mahmood was a Congress ally till the end.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Electorally the Jamiat e ulema hind was part of Dr khan sb's government in NWFP...
Additionally Maulana Azad had been elected on a JUH ticket from NWFP ironically in 1945 elections ...
We are talking about this group which was led by Mufti Mahmood and which is called JUI-F today.
Just admit that you lied and got caught as usual.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:30 am
Sadna...Electorally the Jamiat e ulema hind was part of Dr khan sb's government in NWFP...
Additionally Maulana Azad had been elected on a JUH ticket from NWFP ironically in 1945 elections ...
We are talking about this group which was led by Mufti Mahmood and which is called JUI-F today.
Just admit that you lied and got caught as usual.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
The present day JUI-F is JUH of Mufti Mahmood... Not the JUI breakaway faction you are talking about ...
Was Mufti Mahmood not a Congress ally? He was. His son is the father of the taliban.
Why are you going in circles? Why aren't you answering the question?
No one is holding KK responsible for JUI of shabbir ahmed usmani. we are talking about Jamiat e ulema hind of Mufti mahmood which is the jamiat e ulema islam fazl group today.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:26 am
Sadna,The present day JUI-F is JUH of Mufti Mahmood... Not the JUI breakaway faction you are talking about ...
Was Mufti Mahmood not a Congress ally? He was. His son is the father of the taliban.
Why are you going in circles? Why aren't you answering the question?
No one is holding KK responsible for JUI of shabbir ahmed usmani. we are talking about Jamiat e ulema hind of Mufti mahmood which is the jamiat e ulema islam fazl group today.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Sadna answer the question if you have any honest bone in your body left (though you don't).
On what side were Mufti Mahmood and his JUH NWFP (today's JUI-F) before partition?
Whose son is Fazlurrahman the father of taliban... Mufti Mahmood or these mullahs you are naming?
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:18 am
Look at Sadna go ...Sadna answer the question if you have any honest bone in your body left (though you don't).
On what side were Mufti Mahmood and his JUH NWFP (today's JUI-F) before partition?
Whose son is Fazlurrahman the father of taliban... Mufti Mahmood or these mullahs you are naming?
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
JUI in Pakistan became a national force after JUH remnants joined it after partition.
Mufti Mahmood was the tallest leader of the JUH in NWFP .. Staunchest Congress ally... And after 1947 the grandest figure of Deoband in Pakistan.
He was also head of the PNA of which Wali Khan's part was a member.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 03:14 am
The JUI of Shabbir Ahmed Usmani was a minor entity ...JUI in Pakistan became a national force after JUH remnants joined it after partition.
Mufti Mahmood was the tallest leader of the JUH in NWFP .. Staunchest Congress ally... And after 1947 the grandest figure of Deoband in Pakistan.
He was also head of the PNA of which Wali Khan's part was a member.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
We are holding Congress responsible for its ally the Jamiat e ulema Hind ...the main NWFP faction of which goes under the name JUI-F these days.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:52 am
No one is asking kk to be responsible for anyone but itself. We are holding Congress responsible for its ally the Jamiat e ulema Hind ...the main NWFP faction of which goes under the name JUI-F these days.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Which side were Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat e Ulema Hind NWFP on in 1945-1947 ?
When you will answer this your entire nautanki will unravel...
The answer is Congress.
Incidentally who is called the father of the taliban?
Mufti Mahmood's son Fazlur rahman.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:48 am
Ok nautanki champion answer this:Which side were Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat e Ulema Hind NWFP on in 1945-1947 ?
When you will answer this your entire nautanki will unravel...
The answer is Congress.
Incidentally who is called the father of the taliban?
Mufti Mahmood's son Fazlur rahman.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Which side were Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat e Ulema Hind NWFP on in 1945-1947 ?
When you will answer this your entire nautanki will unravel...
The answer is Congress.
Incidentally who is called the father of the taliban?
Mufti Mahmood's son Fazlur rahman.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:45 am
Ok nautanki champion answer this:Which side were Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat e Ulema Hind NWFP on in 1945-1947 ?
When you will answer this your entire nautanki will unravel...
The answer is Congress.
Incidentally who is called the father of the taliban?
Mufti Mahmood's son Fazlur rahman.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Atleast be honest and don't try and confuse people.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:42 am
Frankly I don't understand why sadna lies like she does about history.Atleast be honest and don't try and confuse people.
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There was Jamiat e ulema Hind the main deobandi party.
A small faction of this broke away and supported Jinnah. It began calling itself Jamiat ulema Islam under Usmani.
Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat-e-ulema Hind NWFP supported Congress through out. After partition the remnants of this JUH who supported Gandhi joined Usmani's JUI ...and because they were larger group they soon dominated the JUI.
The Mufti Mahmood led Jamiat e ulema consisted mainly of JUH mullahs who had opposed Pakistan.
In the 1980s Mufti Mahmood JUI (which was entirely composed of Jamiat e ulema Hind remnants) broke into two:
Fazl group and sami ul haq group. Both were historically opposed to Pakistan.
All sadna is playing on is a similarity in the name. The only remnant of Usmani's JUI is Ehteram ul haq Thanvi who is a member of Imran Khan's Tehreek e insaaf.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:40 am
Majumdar,There was Jamiat e ulema Hind the main deobandi party.
A small faction of this broke away and supported Jinnah. It began calling itself Jamiat ulema Islam under Usmani.
Mufti Mahmood and his Jamiat-e-ulema Hind NWFP supported Congress through out. After partition the remnants of this JUH who supported Gandhi joined Usmani's JUI ...and because they were larger group they soon dominated the JUI.
The Mufti Mahmood led Jamiat e ulema consisted mainly of JUH mullahs who had opposed Pakistan.
In the 1980s Mufti Mahmood JUI (which was entirely composed of Jamiat e ulema Hind remnants) broke into two:
Fazl group and sami ul haq group. Both were historically opposed to Pakistan.
All sadna is playing on is a similarity in the name. The only remnant of Usmani's JUI is Ehteram ul haq Thanvi who is a member of Imran Khan's Tehreek e insaaf.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
What kind of a liar are you?
Answer this question:
Did Mufti Mahmood and his party support Congress or the Muslim League?
They supported the Congress. They were part of Jamiat e ulema Hind. After 1948 they merged with JUI and later Mufti Mahmood made his own faction ie the JUI-F
Shabbir Ahmed usmani's small JUI pre-partition did not even feature in political campaign in NWFP.
Has it come to outright lying sadna?
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:32 am
Sadna What kind of a liar are you?
Answer this question:
Did Mufti Mahmood and his party support Congress or the Muslim League?
They supported the Congress. They were part of Jamiat e ulema Hind. After 1948 they merged with JUI and later Mufti Mahmood made his own faction ie the JUI-F
Shabbir Ahmed usmani's small JUI pre-partition did not even feature in political campaign in NWFP.
Has it come to outright lying sadna?
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These arguments by sadna based on lies and similarly inane arguments by Harish show that they don't have a leg to stand on.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:19 am
Majumdar,These arguments by sadna based on lies and similarly inane arguments by Harish show that they don't have a leg to stand on.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Jamiat e ulema hind NWFP was the predominant Jamiat e Ulema and it was quite active pro-Congress throughout the elections of 1945-1946 and it was carrying out anti-league propaganda in both the settled and tribal areas.
Shabbir Ahmed usmani's breakaway Jamiat-e-ulema was not even popular in NWFP.
The only time League ever came together with JUH was for a brief six month period in the Muslim unity board in UP in 1937.
Either sadna is really ignorant or she is trying to confuse people by lying out of her teeth.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:16 am
PS: Sadna's deliberate dishonesty on this point has been exposed many times. Jamiat e ulema hind NWFP was the predominant Jamiat e Ulema and it was quite active pro-Congress throughout the elections of 1945-1946 and it was carrying out anti-league propaganda in both the settled and tribal areas.
Shabbir Ahmed usmani's breakaway Jamiat-e-ulema was not even popular in NWFP.
The only time League ever came together with JUH was for a brief six month period in the Muslim unity board in UP in 1937.
Either sadna is really ignorant or she is trying to confuse people by lying out of her teeth.
Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
Sadna is lying again. The JUI-F faction of which Mufti Mahmood was the head was part of the Jamiat-e-ulema hind from 1945-1947. After partition JUH mullahs joined JUI-F of Shabbir Ahmed Usmani.
She is confusing Shabir Ahmed Usmani's JUI with Mufti Mahmood's JUH which is today JUI-F.
The JUI of Shabbir Ahmed Usmani does not exist anymore ... because the other JUI-S is also a breakaway faction of Mufti Mahmood's JUI.
Usmani's JUI was a small breakaway faction of the JUH.
Posted by
MantoLives
Oct 8, 2008 02:10 am
Majumdar, Sadna is lying again. The JUI-F faction of which Mufti Mahmood was the head was part of the Jamiat-e-ulema hind from 1945-1947. After partition JUH mullahs joined JUI-F of Shabbir Ahmed Usmani.
She is confusing Shabir Ahmed Usmani's JUI with Mufti Mahmood's JUH which is today JUI-F.
The JUI of Shabbir Ahmed Usmani does not exist anymore ... because the other JUI-S is also a breakaway faction of Mufti Mahmood's JUI.
Usmani's JUI was a small breakaway faction of the JUH.
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