Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Ladduji,

How does Shanti Watch help? Don't you think we all attending Khutba prayers and attending the mosque whenever time permitting will help in deArabization of Shanti. That is a dire need. After all Shantic folks in India are our own people. Shivaji, the great also followed the same and did Shuddhi of these our brothers and sisters.

Also we also need to learn something from Shanti and Paulism. Sense of fellow human service is something we can learn from current day Paulism. Similarly Jakat and Interest free and non speculative investment based economy we can learn from Shantik Pustika. That is why I invited Pt. Mandarji and Testicularji to help translating Zed's episode 11 & 12 on economic terrorism supposedly unleashed by west and jews.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Kumar Uttam | Jammu

Tricolour in hand, protesters shout 'Bharat Mata Ki Jai'

The sun is about to set on the city and the roundabout is deserted. A youth suddenly emerges from one of the bylanes, carrying a National Flag in his hand and shouting slogans of "Bharat Mata Ki Jai". Soon, the solitary protest at Kacchi Chhawani Chowk in 'paralaysed' Jammu turns into a mass frenzy as hundreds join him to express solidarity for a cause that has gone far beyond the Amarnath land row.

In fact, the Tricolour has united people in this winter capital of Jammu and Kashmir to fight the "neglect" they faced in the last 60 years. The controversy over allotment of a land plot to Shri Amarnath Shrine Board was a mere flashpoint. "We raised the Tricolour and were greeted with bullets. They (separatists) in Kashmir hoisted Pakistan's flag and brought the Government to its knees. It will not be allowed to continue any more," thunders Subhash Dogra, a protester.

Everyone in Jammu has suddenly turned leader, brushing aside allegations that "communal elements" are controlling the movement. "We are leaders in ourselves. Nobody is leading us. We are ready to face problems today to ensure a better future for the generations," adds Gurpreet Singh, owner of a few taxis. Though he has been getting no business for 50 days, he is ready to bear the losses for "many more months" but not the humiliation at the hands of the Government.

Everyone in Jammu has just one complaint. "Kashmir wants freedom, we love our country. They got everything, we were left empty-handed," people living in the Mishriwalla refugee camp on the Jammu-Akhnoor highway say.

A senior employee in the Divisional Commissioner's office revealed more. "You don't get promotions on time if you are not from the valley. Jammu has more population and area, but Kashmir gets better representation in all Government bodies and organisations. Jammu contributes the most to the State's exchequer, but Kashmir reaps the benefits. Electricity dues are more in Kashmir, but Jammu faces power cuts," he told The Pioneer.

The Amarnath controversy has come in handy for all those who nurse the "wound of neglect". They are in no double minds -- the Government revoked the allotment of the land to the shrine board for a Hindu yatra under pressure from the same separatists whom they have been appeasing since Independence.

"We have to restore the pride of Baba Amarnath and that of Jammu. We are not going to be defeated at the hands of the anti-nationals. We will be on the roads until the target is achieved," says 80-year-old Anil Sharma, as he and his grandson Ankit raise slogan of 'Bam Bam Bhole' outside Sarwal police post in Rewari locality.

Police have lost public sympathy (they allegedly fired at peaceful protesters and manhandled many) and the Army faces a situation it never confronted before. "How can you expect us to fire at them or even wield a lathi when they come with a Tricolour in their hands and shout slogans in favour of us?" says an Armyman posted in the most sensitive Kacchi Chhawani Chowk of Jammu.

Jammu has been simmering for the last 60 years. It for the first time they have been heard.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Nine-year-old Sahil truly epitomises the spirit of the Amarnath Yatra Sangharsh Samiti activists determined to take their 51-day long agitation over the Amarnath land transfer to its logical end.

On Wednesday morning, Sahil asked his father, Ram Lal, to paint his face with colours of national flag before settling down on his wheel chair. His mother garlanded him with marigold as he moved out of his house in Rehari chanting 'Bharat Mata ki jai' and 'Bum Bum Bhole'.

Sahil was one among several thousands children who defied curfew restrictions in Jammu to participate in the 'jail bharo' agitation. The district administration did not relax curfew in Jammu on Wednesday yet there was no trace of administration. Streets swelled with large number of agitators everywhere across Jammu and supporters of Sangharsh Samiti rallied against the Governor and demanded his ouster.

Majority of police stations across Jammu were full of spirited school-going children and even toddlers at many places. They were driven to the police stations by their young siblings in prams pasted with banners, 'hum kisi se kum nahin' and 'hum se na takrana'. The children recited nationalist slogans and chanted 'Bum Bum Bhole' while offering to court arrest. The policemen, however, found itself in a tight spot over the arrest of juveniles.

A police post in Peermitha area in old Jammu city hogged all the limelight as a large number of kinnars (eunuch) also courted arrest and extended their support to the ongoing agitation. They warned the Centre that if the Amarnath land issue was not resolved immediately, kinnars from all over the country would take part in the ongoing agitation in Jammu.

Meanwhile,One 18-year-old youth died when a tractor trolley in which they were travelling to court arrest turned turtle near Bisnah, 22 kms from Jammu. Two other seriously injured activists of the Sangharsh Samiti were rushed to the Government medical college from Akhnoor and at least 60 others were injured including 25 policemen in day-long incidents of clashes between protesters and paramilitary forces.

Several vehicles including Toyota Qualis parked inside the house of BJP general secretary (organisation) Ajay Jamwal, official vehicle of the directorate of statistics and economics, one Alto car, one tanker, one SRTC bus, old vehicles parked inside Janipur police station were torched by the protesters.

Besides, one ATM counter of the J&K Bank was also burnt by agitators in Janipur area. Two other banks including SBI Janipur and Citizens Cooperative Bank were attacked and window panes were smashed during incidents of stone-pelting. Police tents pitched over Sarwal police post also caught fire when a large number of protesters reached there to court arrest.

In Akhnoor more than one dozen activists of the Sangharsh Samiti and supporters of the Congress were injured after incidents of stone-pelting. Eight protesters were also arrested by the police from different areas for damaging public property. Army was called in and it conducted flag marches in sensitive areas to restore order. Rapid Action Force and paramilitary forces faced the brunt of the agitators during day-long battles at several places in Jammu.

Junior doctors in Jammu medical college went on lightening strike after one of their colleagues Vineet Gupta was manhandled by police despite proving his identity outside the medical college.

Spokesman of the Sangharsh Samiti Narinder Singh claimed that more than 4 lakh people including their family members offered themselves for arrests in the entire Jammu region.

Several eminent poets and writers offered to court arrest in the Pacca Danga police station while a contingent of veteran leaders of 1953 Praja Parishad Movement led by the hero of that movement Om Prakash ji Mengi offered court arrest in the city police station.

Meanwhile, buoyed over the success of the three-day long 'jail bharo' agitation, the Sangharsh Samiti has called upon the people of the Jammu for civil disobedience with the State Government and not to pay VAT, token tax, electricity and water dues, passenger tax with immediate effect. The Sangharsh Samiti has also given a call for taking out a funeral procession of the Central Government against its "criminal silence" over the incidents of violence against the various sections of Hindus in Kashmir comprising students, transporters, labourers and even judges; burning of national flag by the secessionists on August 21.

The Sangharsh Samiti has called upon the people of the Jammu region to participate in full strength along with entire family in the Yatra on August 23 and had also given a call for complete bandh and chakka jam on the August 25. The situation was no different in other adjoining districts in the Jammu region.

State BJP chief Ashok Khajuria warned Governor NN Vohra not to adopt repressive measures to crush the ongoing mass movement of people in Jammu province. Raising the pitch of his voice, Khajuria demanded dismissal of the Governor in order to restore peoples' faith. A large number of activists and supporters of the Sangharsh Samiti in Reasi, Udhampur, Ramgarh, Samba and Kathua courted arrest.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Our Baki brothers & sisters might enjoy this Karlekar piece:

My friend Yusuf

He was an example in our troubled times

My friend Mohammad Yusuf Khan left for the hereafter on August 9. The last time we talked, it was on the telephone in September last year. I told him that I was going to disappear to finish my book on the study of human aggression in the mirror of our savagery toward stray dogs and would call him as soon as I had finished. I did precisely that in July, only to learn from his daughter Anisa, who responded on his cell phone, that he was very ill. As she broke down, I was overcome with a feeling of foreboding. On August 10, his son, Mansur, gave me the terrible news.

I met Yusuf in 1990, when I was at the Indian Express, and in charge of its editorial page. He had brought a 'middle' which he wanted published. It was one of those rare days when I had time on my hands. So I asked him to sit down and began reading, racing to the end in one breath.

Yusuf, who retired from the Indian Air Force as a Wing Commander, was a Flight-Lieutenant during the India-Pakistan war in 1971. Flying a Canberra bomber, he was a part of the squadron that had destroyed the radar at Pakistan Air Force's critical base at Sargodha. Furious, PAF interceptor-fighters had come in relentless pursuit, following Yusuf's plane to Agra, where his squadron was based, and strafing the runway as he landed.

The plane was severely damaged, and it was a miracle that he survived. The next day, the word went round in parts of Agra that a Muslim IAF pilot had guided PAF jets to the city!

Yusuf asked as I finished reading, "Would you publish it?" His quiet dignity and the clear stamp of honesty on his face, told me that the incident had happened. There was another reason why I thought so. In 1985, Ram Nath Goenka, the legendary proprietor of the Indian Express, had sent me to Ahmedabad to take charge of the paper's office there, which had been attacked by a rampaging mob during the vicious communal riots of that year, and which had escaped destruction thanks to a last minute appearance of an Army patrol.

I had heard people say barely after I had stepped out of the Ahmedabad airport that one Major Karim, heading the Army unit deployed in the city, was actively supporting Muslims! I soon found out that it was not 'one Major Karim' but Maj-Gen Afsir Karim, now a distinguished authority on national security, who was heading the Army formation in the city, and whose firm and absolutely impartial handling was rapidly bringing the situation back to normal. Yet, I wanted to be doubly sure and said, "Please call me tomorrow. I'll let you know". I talked to a friend who knew several IAF officers based in Agra at the time. He confirmed that the incident had occurred and that the other IAF officers were furious about the canard about Yusuf.

I sent the piece down for publishing, and left for Kolkata (my hometown). Yusuf called me a couple of weeks after my return and told me that the piece had not been published. I checked; it had been lost. I requested him to bring the carbon copy. When it was published, he told me, "Frankly, I did not think you would carry it".

We became friends after that. Later, while writing my book on Bangladesh, I checked with him almost every reference to matters pertaining to Islam. He was deeply religious, steeped in the finest tradition of his religion and remarkably knowledgeable about it.

What has always struck me, his experience in 1971 did not embitter him because, as he said, while some Hindus spread the canard, others stood solidly by him. Against intolerance of all kinds and a patriot to his marrows, he became a fluent writer who strongly condemned both terrorism and fundamentalism. I will miss a dear friend.

The country will miss a brave man who did not let vicious slander lose his perspective and who was a living example of how deep religiosity could go with unshakeable religious tolerance -- an example of unmistakable relevance when Jammu & Kashmir is in flames.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Pt. Manadarji,

"having a "Quaid" who makes moronic speeches from overseas are also negatives that the party should revisit."

There used to be another Quad (aka Dracula aka MAJ) who also gave bombastic speeches and in idealistic verbiage in desi land but were actually meant for overseas white audience. This new Quaid is following the original one but in reverse way. He "makes moronic speeches from overseas" for desi audience. Nothing changed in 61 years.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Hari,

Mahatmas were many . Mahatma Phule and Gandhi = Mahatma and Mahatma Gandhi.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Ladduji,

Does Shant means Sharana to Anant or Ant to the end which is also beginning ie Oneness?

Seems the process of this Sharana is Shanti. Thus, Shanti means submission. Am I right?

Word peace seems to mean dissolution of ego so that one accepts things as they are. Destruction of ego into so small pieces that there is no trace of it! Our word Bhajan seems close to it. Bhanjan means breaking into invisible pieces/sublimating.

Shanti/Sharana needs to be Sanskritized. That is why I asked Pt. Manadar Multankar -ji (aka Masadi) and Testicularji (aka tahmed) to give us spiritual summary of Shanti (aka Islam).

Darbabari G.... Zaid Hamid had some good ideas based on Shantic Pustika (aka Koran) related to economic social system and state's role in it in his economic program episode 11 & 12. Pt. Mandarji can translate in simple English/Hindi what he is talking in Arabic in those episode. This is necessary otherwise our future generation would say nothing good came out of intermittent 500 years of Shantic Gaddigiri in India. Legacy of Shanti need not be terrorists and utterly slavish Arabized Indians.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? cast violence and satee/no value to females is islamization/arabization and britishizatiom of india

also these are internal problem, indians dont violate others. moreover they were 19th and 20th century problems which are being solved by hindus themselves, thanks to Shivaji the great, Mahatma Phule and Gandhi.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? "I think a hindu by himself is very peaceful. But when he joins with a dozen others, he suddenly becomes very anti-social and psychopathic."


Kuilapalayam is almost all Hindu. So thousands of dozens are joined, do you see antisocial and psychopathic activities?

It's the Shanti, aka Islam, an Abrahmic exploitive doctrine which produces Zaids and Arundhuties. Dharma for us is for not for political kursi.

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? The Gujarat police announced on August 16 the identification and arrest of 10 activists of the Students Islamic Movement of India in connection with the serial blasts in Ahmedabad [Images] on July 26. Nine of the arrests were made in Ahmedabad and Vadodara in Gujarat and the tenth arrest, of Mufti Abu Bashir, the leader, was made with the co-operation of the Uttar Pradesh [Images] police in Azamgarh.

According to details given by a team of senior Gujarat police officers at a special press conference, the arrested persons formed the core of a larger group of SIMI [Images] activists who had planned and carried out the blasts in Ahmedabad, under the name of Indian Mujahideen [Images]. They also said while they have definitively established the involvement of these persons and their associates not yet arrested in the Gujarat blasts, they have some indications that some of these persons might have also been involved in the serial blasts of May in Jaipur [Images] and in the blasts of November 2007 in UP. Further investigation is in progress.

We said it first: Exclusive! Breakthrough in Ahmedabad blasts case

All the persons arrested so far and the suspects not yet arrested are Indians. All the arrested persons are in their 20s. A collation of available details is given below:

Abdul Rashid, also known as Mufti Abu Bashir Ilahi, aged 26. Believed by the police to be the mastermind behind the serial blasts in Ahmedabad on July 26, and the planned but failed blasts in Surat [Images] the next day. Studied Arabic in the Deoband seminary in Uttar Pradesh. Comes from a lower middle class family in Azamgarh (village Beenapara) in Uttar Pradesh. Father, a paralytic, is unemployed and mother is a housewife. The family is dependent on his earnings as a teacher of Arabic in a madrasa in Hyderabad called the Jamait Ul Sheikh Al Maududi located at Pahadisharif in Hyderabad. The madrasa had been started by another native of Azamgarh called Maulana Abdul Aleem Islahi.

Abu Bashir has four brothers and one sister. Two of his brothers are working in Delhi [Images] and Mumbai. The other siblings are studying in a madrasa in Azamgarh. Abu Bashir worked for two years in the Hyderabad madrasa, till January 2007. According to the Hyderabad police, he left the madrasa for Azamgarh that month. According to his father, he returned to his village only about a month ago saying the madrasa was closed for vacations. For nearly 18 months, he was neither in the madrasa nor his village. Some of this period between March and July 2008, he had spent in Ahmedabad.

According to the Gujarat police, he was present in Ahmedabad on the day of the blasts. It is not yet known where he was from January 2007 to March 2008, when he allegedly took over as the head of the SIMI network after the arrest of Safdar Nagori, the general secretary of SIMI, and his brother Karimuddin by the Indore police. Bashir came into contact with SIMI when he was teaching in the Hyderabad madrasa and became its active member.

Maulana Abdul Aleem Islahi is an activist and known sympathiser of SIMI. His son Mohtasin Billa was also in SIMI.
While examining the cell phone records of Ahmedabad over a few months before the blasts, the Gujarat police's crime branch identified five numbers which had only received incoming calls from public call offices located mostly at a place called Juhapura in Ahmedabad. Investigations indicated that during his stay in Ahmedabad Abu Bashir had purchased five SIM cards in the names of local residents. Zahid Sheikh was making the calls to Abu Bashir at these numbers. These numbers went silent after the blasts.

How the Ahmedabad blasts case was solved

Abu Bashir and Abdul Subban Quereshi were staying in a rented house at a place called Vatva in Ahmedabad. This house had been hired with the assistance of Zahid Shaikh and Sajid Mansuri.

Imran Ibrahim Sheikh, aged 23. Did a course in human rights and journalism in MS University, Vadodara, and arrested
Imran Ibrahim Sheikh. Bombs placed in Surat were assembled in his home.
Imran Ibrahim Sheikh. Bombs placed in Surat were assembled in his home.
in that city. Attended training camps in Kerala [Images] and Pavagadh near Vadodara under an assumed name. The police zeroed in on him after a scrutiny of his mobile phone records. During interrogation he denied any role in the blasts but mentioned the name of Zahid Sheikh. Imran Sheikh and Sajid Mansuri had visited Jaipur on May 13, 2008, when the serial blasts there had taken place.

The improvised explosive devices used in Ahmedabad and Surat were assembled at three different places -- in the house at Vatva in Ahmedabad in which Abu Bashir was staying, in Imran Sheikh's house in Vadodara, and in another house in Kalpur in Ahmedabad. It is not known who was staying in the Kalpur house.

Zahid Sheikh, a resident of Juhapura in Ahmedabad. Imran Sheikh's interrogation led to him. He allegedly confessed that he had planted bombs on cycles in Ahmedabad. He named at least three people who were involved in the purchase of the bicycles and delivery of the IEDs.

Zahid Sheikh was under surveillance by the Ahmedabad police even before the blasts. He had also attended the training camps in Kerala and Gujarat under an assumed name. He had provided local logistics support for a team of nine -- five from Madhya Pradesh [Images], two from Maharashtra and two from Karnataka -- which had come to Ahmedabad. The team held meetings in the Bapunagar area of Ahmedabad in April, another one in a different city in May and the final one on July 20 at Zahid's residence.

Zahid's confession led to the arrest of Yunus Mansuri, Shanshuddin Sheikh, Arif Kadri, Gyasuddin from Ahmedabad and Imran, Usman Agarbattiwala, Iqbal Sheikh and Sajid Mansuri from Vadodara.

Indian Mujahideen is SIMI V2.0

Usman Agarbattiwala, aged 24. A BCom graduate from MS University, Vadodara, he attended training camps in Kerala and Pavagadh near Vadodara under an assumed name. His laptop was allegedly used for programming the timer chips for the IEDs planted in Surat, which failed to explode.

Sajid Mansuri. Chief coordinator of Ahmedabad blasts.
Sajid Mansuri. Chief coordinator of Ahmedabad blasts.
Sajid Mansuri, a former zonal secretary of SIMI in Gujarat, had been absconding since 2001 and was finally arrested from Bharuch after the blasts.

Abdul Subban Qureshi. An explosives expert who holds a diploma in electronic engineering, he allegedly procured ammonium nitrate and timers for the Ahmedabad operation and had them stored in a safe house in Bharuch, and had attended SIMI's meetings to plan the serial blasts. The arrested suspects have claimed that it was Abdul Subban Qureshi who drafted the three e-mails claiming responsibility for the blasts of November 2007 in UP, May in Jaipur and July in Ahmedabad on behalf of Indian Mujahideen. He forwarded the drafts to Mufti Bashir. Qureshi is absconding.

Adnan, also known as Hafiz Mullah is a young computer engineer and a prominent SIMI organiser for South India. He was arrested along with some other SIMI leaders in Indore in March 2008. He had named Abu Bashir as being responsible for SIMI activities in Gujarat.

Kamaruddin Nagori, brother of Safdar Nagori, was in charge of organising training camps. He was assisted by Adnan, Shibly Peedical Abdul and his brother Shaduli. The first camp was in Karnataka between April and September 2007, the second in Kerala in October-November 2007, the third in Madhya Pradesh in December 2007, and the fourth in Gujarat in January 2008.

ISI's Indianisation of jihad

The plans for the series of blasts in different cities were drawn up during the training camp in the jungles of Waghamon near Aluva (previously Alwaye) in Kerala where 40 recruits from different states were put through a commando course. This camp was addressed by both Safdar and his brother. This camp was followed by the blasts in three cities of UP in November 2007.

Kayamuddin Kapadia is chief of SIMI operations in Gujarat
Kayamuddin Kapadia is chief of SIMI operations in Gujarat.
The plan for the blasts in Gujarat was drawn up at the Gujarat training camp held in Pavagadh in the Vadodara area. Many of those arrested by the Gujarat police after the blasts had attended this camp. After the arrest of the Nagori brothers and Adnan by the Indore police, Abu Bashir, assisted by Abdul Subban Quereshi and one Kayamuddin of Vadodara, took on the responsibility for organising the reprisal attacks planned in Gujarat. Initially, they thought of hijacking a plane or a kidnapping to demand the release of those arrested in Indore, before deciding on the blasts.

Others arrested by the Gujarat police: Yunus Mansuri, Shamsuddin Sheikh, Arif Kadri, Gyasuddin and Iqbal Sheikh. Their particulars are not available.

Photographs Courtesy: Intelligence Sources

Is this Amnesia or Dementia? Once upon a time, there was a tiny village in South Arcot district in Tamil Nadu, called Kuilapalayam. Now Kuilapalayam is like hundreds of villages around Pondichery: it is peopled with Hindu Vanniars, poor, living off agriculture, usually a few meagre fields of cashew nuts. But then Kuilapalayam just happened to be in the midst of Auroville, the international township founded by the Mother of Pondichery based upon the ideals of the great yogi and revolutionary, Sri Aurobindo.

Thus Kuilapalayam prospered: Its inhabitants learned trades needed for the city: carpenters, masons, craftsmen, and some of its children attended Auroville's schools and were educated along with Western kids and in time graduated and went into white collar jobs. From a few bicycles 40 years ago, Kuilapalayam today has motorcycles, tractors, cars, vans, cable television, cell phones, etc. The main road of Kuilapalayam, which used to be only shady huts, became lined with fancy shops which sold everything, from vegetables to handicrafts.

And then the unavoidable happened: A Kashmiri from Chennai heard about Auroville and the prosperity of Kuilapalayam and understanding that he could make a packet with so many Westerners passing though Auroville, he opened the usual shawls and carpets shop in the village. Now Kuilapalayam never counted a Muslim amongst its population in its 1,200 years of recorded history; but in true Hindu tradition, this one was welcomed and nobody raised any objection, although he was competition for some of the other shops.

Our Kashmiri Muslim, seeing his success, called his cousin in Kolkata, who came and opened another shop; and that one phoned his friend in Mumbai, who also landed up and opened a third shop. Still nobody found anything to say. Kashmiris are sociable fellows and they quickly made friends with Westerners, so business was booming, till they were seven or eight Kashmiri shops in Kuilapalayam. And again nobody complained, even when the fellows started doing their naamaz in the open. "Isn't God everywhere and isn't He Krishna, as well as Allah?" said one of the villagers.

Then Rathinam, one of the young boys of Kuilapalayam who had gone to study in Delhi [Images], told his parents when he came back, about the fact that not only were no outsiders allowed to buy land or start a shop in the valley of Kashmir, where the shopkeepers came from, but that 400,000 Hindus were chased out of the valley by terror. His parents started talking to their friends and there was the first hint of resentment against the newcomers.

Fifteen days later, the Amarnath row exploded. Rathinam's father went to see a group of Kuilapalayam Kashmiris having tea and told them that Hindus never complained about the government giving billion of rupees in subsidies to Indian Muslims so that they can visit their most holy place, Mecca. But when Hindus, he continued, need shelters, toilets and basic facilities at a height of 15,000 feet to worship at Amarnath, one of the holiest places of Hinduism, why do you Kashmiri Muslims deny it to us?

The Kashmiris looked a bit uneasy, then replied that anyway the Amarnath ice lingam had been discovered by a Muslim shepherd and that Muslims had always welcomed their Hindu brothers to Armanath. But this did not convince the Kuilapalayam man who had heard from his son that many grenade attacks had happened over the years on the Amarnath pilgrims. And anger has started mounting in Kuilapalayam.

So, it is all a question of reciprocity. Most Hindus are peace-loving people. The average Hindu that you meet in a million Indian villages, such as Kuilapalayam, is easy-going and accepts you and your diversity, whether you are Christian, Muslim, Parsi or Jain, Arab, French or Chinese. He goes about his business and usually does not interfere in yours.

In fact, Hindus go even a little further, they hate trouble and go out of their way to avoid it. Have you noticed how every time there is a possibility of a strike or riot, Hindus stay home? Or how -- forget about rioting -- Hindus never speak up, complain or protest in a united manner? There is a UN Human Rights Conference on terrorism in New York coming up on September 9, and they have been desperately trying to get Hindu survivors of recent bomb blasts to testify; but no one is willing to come forward.

Despite that, everywhere in the world Hindus are hounded, humiliated, routed, be it in Fiji where an elected democratic government was twice deposed in an armed coup, or in Pakistan and Bangladesh where Muslims indulge in pogroms against Hindus every time they want to vent their anger against India (read Taslima Nasreen's [Images] Lajja to know more).

In Assam, Tripura, or Nagaland, Hindus are being outnumbered by Bangladeshi illegal immigrants and terrorised by pro-Christian separatist groups while local governments often turn a blind eye.

Yet, in 3,500 years of known existence, Hindus have never invaded another country, never tried to impose their religion upon others through force or even conversion. No, rather it has been through peaceful invasions that Hinduism has stormed the world, whether in the East -- witness Angkor Vat -- or in the West today, where the by-products of Hinduism -- yoga, meditation, Ayurveda, pranayama -- have been adopted by millions.

Hindus also gave refuge to all the persecuted minorities of the world, from Parsis to the Jews (India is the only country in the world where Jews were not persecuted) to Armenians and Tibetans today. The first Christian community of the world, that of Syrian Christians, flourished in Kerala [Images], thanks to Hindus' tolerance; Arab merchants were welcomed by Hindu rulers to do trade and live in India while practicing their religion, from very early times.

Thus Hindus, who accept everybody and welcome all religions, allow Indians from other parts to trade next to them, as it happened in Kuilapalayam, do not receive in return any gratitude and the same respect.

So, sometimes, enough is enough. At some point, after years or even centuries of submitting like sheep to slaughter, Hindus, the most peace-loving people in the world, those Mahatma Gandhi [Images] once gently called 'cowards', those who cringe in their houses at the least sign of a riot, erupt in fury, uncontrolled fury.

Instead of trying to pour water over the fire, instead of appealing for calm and communal harmony, political leaders, journalists as well as spiritual leaders would do well to look at the root cause of Hindu fury, and try to address their demands and frustrations.


Francois Gautier

Reviving the Pakistani cinema dost,

marathi cinema is thriving these days because hindi cinema is americanized. even gujarathi, hindi bhayyas and kannadigas are enjoying marathi cinema because of good stories, realistic and local ambiance.

just as shanti needs to be localized so also the media.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India testicularji wrote

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#187 "good ideas from Hinduism"

and what exactly are these?
"
Pinkuji you can wake up the sleeping dog but not the pretending one!

Name a civilization which allowed to settle and prosper persecuted people such as Syrian Christians, Jews and Zarotrostian, testicularji.

Sarve Sukhinah Bhavantu ... Pinkuji please throw at this dog bones from our civilization-al treasure.

But I feel "word" especially in alien tongue and rooted in alien distant culture is the worst idol. If humans go through the experience/living/effort of creating an idol then it gets divinified. Since Shanti was forced because of slavery, economic and political exploitation the "wordy book" idol was never rediscovered/recreated by individual Shantic convert's efforts. The sweat on the forehead of a farmer and laborer is better indicator of divinity of his creation. Pinkuji, while observing my mother's and wife's elaborate rituals I find this divinifying the idol every day by individual's effort of body-mind-intellect. That is why five times Namazi is always better than intellectual scumBaig. The Namazi would be helped more if Shanti is localized to Marathi, Pandharpur becomes Macca and IIT Mumbai becomes Madina, Shivjayanti becomes Eid and Holi becomes Moharram.

Pinkuji, pardon me somewhere you wrote about "different truths," don't you think truths appear different because of instruments to observe the one and the only one truth? If the instrument is changing ie non-shashwat then we see the Truth in different colors and forms. Human intellect and its power constantly changes because of Vasana/ego so it is not the best instrument for observing Truth. Truth is observed/lived the best when ego is dissolved.

Anyway, for our Shantic testicularji and other bakis the best we can do is to push "afghani dostum in baki rectum. " It's utterly hopeless please see Zaid Hamid's videos.

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_naVAiFByxw

yeh saala arabonse badhakar arab hain.

this kind of explains how bakis lie thru their teeth with all the emotional drama and flowery language. i think that explains charasi allama. why dont you guys work for your own individual salvation and not do all the time chumma to distant umma.

waht is this allama? does allah have mom? was the charasi a female?

what history do you guys teach? Do you tell how Prithwiraj and DharmaVeer Sambhaji were killed? Do you tell how Gandhi stopped massacre of Shantic folks in bihar and bengal?

It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India

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It\'s Politics Uber Alles In Kashmir ..... And India bakiTeesara,

little lies you spread little lies they spread for their (IBN) masters in London and DC.

Aug. 16 is a lie:


By Deepika Mitra
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Posted 19 June 2008 @ 09:47 pm GMT

It's high time Shantic folks needs to be paid "Dostum in Rectum" way to defend India and its civilization. Ask your self why Tehelkas are having their meets in London. What Balasaheb conveyed is common sense to all.